Tony Hill keeping it 100

[LACowboysFan1]

You could also count on him to not make a routine catch in a few critical moments which might cost us a game or two because he tries to make the catch with his body.

Every receiver has had missed catches like that, but I see your point.

But body catches aren't all bad, aren't receivers praised because they shielded off the defender with their body? Not something you want to do every time, and as I said, Williams does make some catches without using his body.

He's an average to just above average receiver, no more, no less. No guarantee Gallup or Austin or whoever will do any better, but I suspect they'll get the chance to try this year...

 

[ondaedg]

I haven’t heard that the WR’s were getting dominated by the DBs in OTA’s.

If true it is a concern since we have a coaching staff that doesn’t scheme guys open and a group of 2nd and 3rd level receivers.

My first thought is Garrett and Linehan didn't come up with new schemes to be more creative in getting guys open. My second thought is our DBs are playing good. Hope it's the latter.

 

[charron]

He gets less passes thrown his way every year because as a body catcher, the pass has to be right on the money, and he has to be open a yard or two at least, which he isn't that often. In other words he'd be a better receiver if he didn't body catch so much (though he doesn't always body catch)...

How can he have less catches thrown to him when he caught the most passes ever? This is where perception doesn't equate reality. Where Dak throws the ball was predicated on how his #1 receiver was covered. In this offensive system dez single covered means dez gets the ball, which lead to dez complaining about not getting it in single coverage looks. williams was/ is a decoy, ran clearing routes and is option 2 but only if dez was covered. Williams makes his living by breaking off his routes and coming back to the ball when things break down. Dak sscrambles and williams working back to him is an easy target. Is a failure on this coaching staff to use an offensive philosophy that didn't teach it's wr's each position in the offense. Will be interesting to see how they teach going forward.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

How can he have less catches thrown to him when he caught the most passes ever?

Ever than who? Ever than when? Ever his last year?

What I'm saying is that he won't be thrown to unless he's open, because if he's not, if the pass is a bit off he can't catch it, someone like Dez you can throw to when they're not open because they can reach out from their body and get it. If the pass is off to Williams, the defender will probably knock it down or intercept it.

 

[charron]

Ever than who? Ever than when? Ever his last year?

What I'm saying is that he won't be thrown to unless he's open, because if he's not, if the pass is a bit off he can't catch it, someone like Dez you can throw to when they're not open because they can reach out from their body and get it. If the pass is off to Williams, the defender will probably knock it down or intercept it.

What you said is that he is thrown to less and less due to how he catches and that is the part that is false. Yes large catch radius > small catch radius, but still had the best catch % on this team last year while catching a career high in passes. kinda contradicts you saying he was thrown to less and less.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

Beasley tore it up in 2016 on the short in and out routes taking advantage of underneath one-on-ones out of the slot. He was virtually uncoverable because the defender didn't know if he was going to break in or out since he did it so well.

Teams decided in 2017 that he was our top receiving threat and consistently bracketed him with inside and outside coverage. This allowed the bracket men to not bite when he faked the other way. Because the other receivers couldn't beat their coverage consistently, teams never were given a reason to drop the bracket.

Dallas, for the most part, did not try to use Beasley any differently, continuing to run him primarily on the short ins and outs. That may be because Beasley is a small, quick player, but not a particularly fast one. Press coverage can keep players like that from getting off the line with the DB having enough speed to make up ground when he does escape.

The Cowboys had him playing more at outside receiver during OTAs, so maybe they believe he can run routes against press coverage effectively. If he can, then it's an indictment against the staff that the coaches did not adjust to what defenses were doing and allow Beasley to take his routes further downfield.

It's like everything else, (In Beasley's case) he flew under the radar in 2016. Then in 2017 (when other teams caught on to him) they started to dominate him and the coaching staff didn't do anything to adjust... When you call the same vanilla plays (with no creativity), naturally, eventually, you're going to get owned...

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I still remember that game winning touchdown against the Commanders like it was yesterday.

Dez will always be Mr. Cowboy no matter how much some of you Dak-bots want to bury this fact!!

 

[Hardline]

Dez will always be Mr. Cowboy no matter how much some of you Dak-bots want to bury this fact!!

What does a game winning catch by Tony Hill from Roger Staubach have to do with Dak or Dez?

 

[Big D]

Check out the video link...Tony Hill's great TD in SB XIII is about :35 seconds in.

What in the world was Randy White doing @ 1:28? l

 

[Big D]

Williams makes his living by breaking off his routes and coming back to the ball when things break down. Dak sscrambles and williams working back to him is an easy target.

This is basically how things worked with Romo as well. Our offense seems to work best 'outside of the offense' when things break down. Is it because the players can't execute the scheme? or because the scheme sucks?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Hill provides an expected and knowledgeable observation from someone who excelled and succeeded at the position. It is an observation anyone should make of someone like Dez Bryant, as opposed to someone like Michael Irvin.

To some, both men may seem exactly the same emotionally and others may see their inspirational influences as being exactly the same. Both are more dissimilar than similar in these aspects though. It is the reason why Irvin achieved greatness playing in the NFL and why Bryant appears currently stuck at a personal crossroads in his career.

You flip their eras and irvin gets booted from the league for arrests and is Basically chad Johnson. And dez is the one with rings and in the Hall.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

It just blows me away that they signed Dez to that ridicules contract. I'm so glad Jerry is fading into the abyss. You pay a guy who you know cannot physically preform at that level for years. Leaping into the air that high was going to result in bad things happening.
Then there's Romo's contract, knowing he had a bad disc.
Hello Stephen and company. Thank you for saving us.

Here’s comes that fat Dak Prescott contract that tells the fans “look at how highly he’s paid he must be good!”

 

[charron]

This is basically how things worked with Romo as well. Our offense seems to work best 'outside of the offense' when things break down. Is it because the players can't execute the scheme? or because the scheme sucks?

I think it has to do with how these coaches teach the players to use the scheme. Your defense can do things to dictate where the qb will go based off the coverage you present. Disguised coverages caused up huge problems. Our receivers were never taught to do more than their primary role. People say dez can't run a route.....but the coaches didn't work on it either. they say beasley can't run on the outside but he has done so with some success. Every receiver should line up and practice every spot, the tight ends too. You have got to find ways to use every player on the team so they can succeed within your scheme.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

I got to meet Tony Hill when I was a kid...super nice guy.

 

[khiladi]

So he’s a talent or couldn’t get separation?

And Dak being ‘efficient’ and ‘will inprove’ and ‘team manager’ are words not really hyping him up either.. bunch of excuses

Make up your minds...

 

[CapnCook]

I still remember that game winning touchdown against the Commanders like it was yesterday.

Me, too!

But then again, I barely remember yesterday.

 

[Bleu Star]

Every receiver has had missed catches like that, but I see your point.

But body catches aren't all bad, aren't receivers praised because they shielded off the defender with their body? Not something you want to do every time, and as I said, Williams does make some catches without using his body.

He's an average to just above average receiver, no more, no less. No guarantee Gallup or Austin or whoever will do any better, but I suspect they'll get the chance to try this year...

I think Gallup will be better than TWill ever was THIS YEAR.

 

[Bleu Star]

Dez will always be Mr. Cowboy no matter how much some of you Dak-bots want to bury this fact!!

The only Mr I see in Dez is Mr Binky.

 

[Rayman70]

Thrill Hill,Pearson and Butch Johnson, Billy Joe Dupree. My all time fave wr corp. Hill was in the shadow of Pearson and never got enough credit. Dude was consistent and clutch. That 1979 Commander Game@ Dallas...one of the last games Staubach played was one for the ages. Hill was HUGE,then caught the game winner with like 1 second left. Another game ...actually 2 other games where Hill was huge was the 1980-81 Playoff game in Atlanta and San Fran in the championship game. Even though they lost that one, Hill had a big game,and damn near took Danny Whites last second pass to the end zone.

 

[Bleu Star]

What does a game winning catch by Tony Hill from Roger Staubach have to do with Dak or Dez?

Great question!