Tony Pollard participates in RB summit over market value

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When you think about top WRs getting 20 mil a season that is crazy. They might have 10 catches in a game and have to do some blocking on CBs. Top teir RBs might have 25 carries and 5 - 6 catches and be asked to block Dline and LBs. The RB has more involvement in the game. They should get a 1 year rookie contract and after that be up for negotiations. Barkley and Ekler are worth 18 to 20 mil a season.
The problem Is they are used up after 5 years. They need to get their money early at that position.
while I agree with u, the market sets the price,not the player.
 

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a serviceable productive rb can be found sitting at home essentially or as an udfa. With WR AND QB that isnt the case. Its much harder to find a QB and good receiver than it is a decent rb. Austin Ekeler wasn't drafted. They found him on the street basically correct me if Im wrong.
 

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I think it should be standard that every running back only gets 1 contract then automatically becomes a free agent and then they can test their wares on the open market. That would solve this.
 

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If you are any good you will get paid. Pretty simple. If anyone should be holding a summit it is Rogers, Mahomes, Burrow and Brady.
 

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I think it should be standard that every running back only gets 1 contract then automatically becomes a free agent and then they can test their wares on the open market. That would solve this.
It would not solve anything - they still are not getting paid - just more supply in the market!

If you are gonna fix their problem, pay them more in their rookie contract and make the teams pay them by use. The only way to fix their problem is to change the game and let the DB';s make more contact with the WR's so that the passing game is not as efficient like it used to be!
 
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Playing the long con to get Barkley to sit out. Pollard is helping on and off the field.
 
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It would not solve anything - they still are not getting paid - just more supply in the market!

If you are gonna fix their problem, pay them more in their rookie contract and make the teams pay them by use. The only way to fix their problem is to change the game and let the DB';s make more contact with the WR's so that the passing game is not as efficient like it used to be!
sure it would. If they are good, why wouldn't a team pay to sign them? Bet on themselves. Let the market dictate who gets paid a higher dollar deal based on performance.
 

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My solution is to make QB's exempt from the salary cap. They are paid so much more than other positions, it becomes "unfair" to the other players. Keep their money out of the cap and you have more to spread around to other positions. I think it could function similar to how the NBA uses the Larry Bird Rule
 

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My solution is to make QB's exempt from the salary cap. They are paid so much more than other positions, it becomes "unfair" to the other players. Keep their money out of the cap and you have more to spread around to other positions. I think it could function similar to how the NBA uses the Larry Bird Rule
Instead, limit the percentage of a team's salary cap that can go to a single player.
 

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My solution is to make QB's exempt from the salary cap. They are paid so much more than other positions, it becomes "unfair" to the other players. Keep their money out of the cap and you have more to spread around to other positions. I think it could function similar to how the NBA uses the Larry Bird Rule
I don't think that would fix the RB problem. Teams will spend the extra on higher value positions. Teams are not using RB's in the traditional way and the RB success nowadays is more based on offensive design versus skilled running the ball up the middle. The best OC's can scheme around not having an effective traditional running game.
 

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Yes of course, maybe their initial rookie contracts should come with more guarantees? I don’t know the answer for them. NFLPA needs to do better for them.
Hard to guarantee a lot of money to an unproven rookie. There really is no answer if you’re an RB. It may result in a lot of kids not wanting to play RB if they have professional aspirations. It’s a short career and you have to get your money early. It’s going to be hard to convince teams to sign these young players to short two year rookie deals. They want to lock them up for at least four years.
 

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sure it would. If they are good, why wouldn't a team pay to sign them? Bet on themselves. Let the market dictate who gets paid a higher dollar deal based on performance.
They are not paying them now! That's the problem. You think you change their payscale by giving them an out a couple years earlier? You might help them by their first deal being 3 yrs max with a 2 year player option, but not by getting them out at 4-5 years with no chance to get tagged.
 

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They are not paying them now! That's the problem. You think you change their payscale by giving them an out a couple years earlier? You might help them by their first deal being 3 yrs max with a 2 year player option, but not by getting them out at 4-5 years with no chance to get tagged.
They are paid accordingly right now. Its the market. They can have sour grapes all they want but the facts are the market is supply and demand. Pollard is getting 10 mil fully guaranteed on the tag, thats hardly "not being paid." Guess what, if he has a stellar year he will get his bag,I promise ya.
 

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some players know how to take care of their finances and some do not. Those that plan well will be fine for years to come (although they will still want to get paid). Those that don't will run into hard times down the road.

If you watch the Netflix show "Quarterback", you will see a stark difference in the way Patrick Mahomes lives and the way Kirk Cousins lives. Cousins talks about driving a van, has a very nice but not extravagant home (he also has one on Lake Michigan), dresses like a "normal" person, etc. Mahomes was driving a Bentley, just built an enormous house with a basketball court, par 3 golf hole, pool, theater room, dresses in designer clothes (as does his annoying wife).

I'm sure there are RB's doing the same. Problem is, they aren't making $50M like Patrick. They want the lifestyle, but don't have the cash to do it. And RB's will likely never be in that position financially. If they are any good, they will get a nice 2nd contract and if they are smart with their money it will set them and their family up for a very long time. They have to realize that they have no leverage. I'm not saying they should take what they can get and be happy about it, but having zoom meetings, etc. will do nothing to increase their value to teams.
 
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