Tony Romo Compared to 8 Greats After 39 Career Starts

[Doomsday101]

Staubach didn't become a full-time starter until 29, and he won a SB that same year.

Again, not a reasonable comparison with Romo by any standard.

On a team who just came off a SB it was not like Dallas was not already competing for Championships.

 

[AmishCowboy]

For all the guys who don't like Tony who would you rather have?, or does everyone really miss Quincy, Hutch, Bledsoe and Leaf that much?.

 

[Idgit]

Staubach didn't become a full-time starter until 29, and he won a SB that same year.

Again, not a reasonable comparison with Romo by any standard.

What we need is a QB with exactly the same record as Romo, at exactly the same age. Then we'll have standard that will work for you. Of course, then neither will have proven anything, either.

I wonder if you guys went around complaining that your wives were barren before you had your first kids? Is a promising book not any good after the first few chapters? Your dinner undercooked when it's only been in the oven for 10 minutes?

Declaring a player a failure a few seasons into a very good career because of what his team has or hasn't accomplished is silly. There will be plenty of time to evaluate his body of work when he retires. There are dim-bulbs who'd still make the case that Marino was not a great NFL QB.

In the meantime, enjoy the ride, and the fact that our QB position is set for the next several years with a very good player. Look around at the roster. Complain instead about the real positions of weakness where we realistically can improve if you have to.

 

[Chief]

My only gripe with Romo is the fumbles.

That's pretty much how I feel.

Romo has a lot of talent ... some of his skills are subtle, like his quick release.

But he has got to protect the ball better.

 

[Doomsday101]

For all the guys who don't like Tony who would you rather have?, or does everyone really miss Quincy, Hutch, Bledsoe and Leaf that much?.

I think people expect a lot from the QB sometimes too much. As great as Marino was no SB, Dan Fouts no SB and others like Jim Kelly and Fran Tarkenton made it to the SB but never won. In my view Football is the ultimate team sport and it is teams who get it done or not, not the QB alone. So when I see Romo getting the crap kicked out of him in Dec where he was sacked 12 times I know it was more than just Romo that is not to say Romo has to do a better job of protecting the ball when the rush is coming but overall this team did not play good enough to win we they needed to.

 

[Alexander]

That's pretty much how I feel.

Romo has a lot of talent ... some of his skills are subtle, like his quick release.

But he has got to protect the ball better.

It is appropriate that he's linked to his idol Favre. You will always have to take the bad with the good with him. He's going to make some incredible plays one minute and then do something that makes you grind your teeth to powder the next. It is just going to be the way he is.

But he's going to have to win a playoff game or two before he can be regarded as an elite QB. He can win all the regular season games he wants and win the Wade Phillips Regular Season Counts For It All Trophy on a yearly basis. He has to win in the playoffs to move to the next level.

 

[RESIN8]

I compiled these stats for each quarterback at www.pro-football-reference.com.
Here is the W-L-T records regular season after 39 starts. I didn’t have time to look at the playoff numbers.

MARINO 32-7-0

ROMO 27-12-0

MONTANA 22-17-0

P. MANNING 21-18-0

FAVRE 23-16-0

S. YOUNG 15-24-0

AIKMAN 15-24-0

STAUBACH 28-11-0

BRADSHAW 23-16-0

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What playoff numbers?

 

[slick325]

Romo has shown a great deal of ability during his 39 starts. I think he has a chance to join Aikman and Staubach eventually if he keeps working on his game and minimizes his flaws (which EVERY player in the league has).

There are steps to be made before Romo can be named an elite QB or a great QB. Until he wins in the playoffs he isn't even Danny White in the grand scheme of Dallas QB hierarchy. He needs to get Dallas to a few NFC Championships before he even gets to Danny White and once he does that he has to put up mulitple SB wins to reach Staubach and Aikman.

Just let him be Romo and see if the rest falls into place.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Win a playoff game Tony... until then, who cares.

All hype, no substance.

 

[sonnyboy]

For all the guys who don't like Tony who would you rather have?, or does everyone really miss Quincy, Hutch, Bledsoe and Leaf that much?.

It's not that they don't like Romo and of course they don't have a better option.
The people that want to shew away/ disregard his eye-poping numbers fall into one of three categories:

1) They are a Troll. They know Romo is a great QB and will keep Dallas in contention each and every year during his prime. Their objective is to plant seeds of doubt in us fans.

2) They are a less than asstute fans of the game. They just don't get it.

3) They are bitter. They're sick and tired of the team's failings and they truely believe no member of this team should receive credit of any kind. I also suspect they believe things written on this board will actually have an impact on the players.

 

[UppityCracker2]

Win a playoff game Tony... until then, who cares.

All hype, no substance.

I think that this is maybe what is bothering me. I guess I made the comment about running out of time not because he is 29, which I agree is not old for a quarterback, but rather he is stuck in this rut as you mentioned.

 

[joseephuss]

It's not that they don't like Romo and of course they don't have a better option.
The people that want to shew away/ disregard his eye-poping numbers fall into one of three categories:

1) They are a Troll. They know Romo is a great QB and will keep Dallas in contention each and every year during his prime. Their objective is to plant seeds of doubt in us fans.

2) They are a less than asstute fans of the game. They just don't get it.

3) They are bitter. They're sick and tired of the team's failings and they truely believe no member of this team should receive credit of any kind. I also suspect they believe things written on this board will actually have an impact on the players.

They don't? Darn, I figured every player read this board and paid particular attention to any post made by me.

 

[gimmesix]

Staubach was no pup. Neither was Jim Plunkett. It's so foolish.

I think with ESPN and radio talk shows driving this generation of sports people fail to understand when they've got a good thing. We're a win now or get off the field society, and we see that mind-set constantly affecting the college and pro football scenes. How many coaches are given much time to get a team on the right track? Three years with no playoff victories or without making a BCS bowl, regardless of the circumstances? You're out of here.

People are looking at the bottom line to assess the value of a coach/player and not the complete picture. We lack true perspective.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think with ESPN and radio talk shows driving this generation of sports people fail to understand when they've got a good thing. We're a win now or get off the field society, and we see that mind-set constantly affecting the college and pro football scenes. How many coaches are given much time to get a team on the right track? Three years with no playoff victories or without making a BCS bowl, regardless of the circumstances? You're out of here.

People are looking at the bottom line to assess the value of a coach/player and not the complete picture. We lack true perspective.

Plus a lot of people really are morons. Stupıdıty was around long before ESPN or talk radıo. It makes it entertaınıng for the rest of us when we can lısten to how Stephen McGee ıs goıng to push a 90+ QB ratıng QB out of hıs job. Just lıke we got to poınt and laugh last year at the people sayıng the team was goıng to be even better after Tony got hurt because at least Brad Johnson wouldnt fumble and turn the ball over.

 

[J-Skip]

that cant be true .....cause he sucks..not even starting material...

YOU SO CRAZY!!!!!!!

These are just statistical numbers, trophies are what matter.

Romo could start for a number of teams this coming year and it would be a considerable upgrade for them. Sure, I'd like to have Brady or Manning too, but Romo is more than a sufficient quarterback in the NFL.

 

[TNCowboy]

I think with ESPN and radio talk shows driving this generation of sports people fail to understand when they've got a good thing. We're a win now or get off the field society, and we see that mind-set constantly affecting the college and pro football scenes. How many coaches are given much time to get a team on the right track? Three years with no playoff victories or without making a BCS bowl, regardless of the circumstances? You're out of here.

People are looking at the bottom line to assess the value of a coach/player and not the complete picture. We lack true perspective.

I don't see more than a handful of posters advocating we ditch Romo. It's just ridiculous that some are trying to assert that he's even with or ahead of many HOFers at this point in his career. Most of the guys he was compared to were already carrying teams on their backs at age 29, and had several playoff wins under their belts.

Doesn't mean Romo will never get it, but three consecutive less than stellar Decembers isn't just a coincidence. The onus is not on people who doubt Tony Romo; it's on Tony Romo. I don't believe anyone can honestly argue otherwise. But since there's really no defense for Romo's disappointing end to the previous 3 seasons, his over-the-top supporters issue a blanket "THEY WANT TO GET RID OF ROMO EVEN THOUGH HE'S STATISTICALLY BETTER THAN MANNING!!???!!" argument or other such nonsense.

 

[Hostile]

Plus a lot of people really are morons. Stupıdıty was around long before ESPN or talk radıo. It makes it entertaınıng for the rest of us when we can lısten to how Stephen McGee ıs goıng to push a 90+ QB ratıng QB out of hıs job. Just lıke we got to poınt and laugh last year at the people sayıng the team was goıng to be even better after Tony got hurt because at least Brad Johnson wouldnt fumble and turn the ball over.

Yep, there's some truth to this. Some people actually vehemently defended Quincy Carter too.

 

[Hostile]

I don't see more than a handful of posters advocating we ditch Romo. It's just ridiculous that some are trying to assert that he's even with or ahead of many HOFers at this point in his career. Most of the guys he was compared to were already carrying teams on their backs at age 29, and had several playoff wins under their belts.

Doesn't mean Romo will never get it, but three consecutive less than stellar Decembers isn't just a coincidence. The onus is not on people who doubt Tony Romo; it's on Tony Romo. I don't believe anyone can honestly argue otherwise. But since there's really no defense for Romo's disappointing end to the previous 3 seasons, his over-the-top supporters issue a blanket "THEY WANT TO GET RID OF ROMO EVEN THOUGH HE'S STATISTICALLY BETTER THAN MANNING!!???!!" argument or other such nonsense.

The major problem with your theory is that the "less than stellar Decembers" are not confined to the Tony Romo years. So the theory that he is responsible does not hold water. Our December fades date back to 1997. Way before Tony Romo even arrived at Eastern Illinois.

That year Barry Switzer's Aikman led Cowboys were 0-3.

We only won 3 games total in Gailey's 2 years as HC, also with Aikman at the helm.

Campo was 4-9 in December. Over 3 years.

The great Bill Parcells was 8-9 overall and was a very average 6-6 without Tony Romo.

It is a Cowboys December fade thing, not a Tony Romo December fade thing.

 

[gbrittain]

The truth of the matter is if Dallas had made the playoffs three years in a row and Romo had won at least one or two playoff games every year but not the Super Bowl he would then get the "He can't win the big one" argument from the same people.

If Romo helps guide Dallas this year all the way to the NFC championship game or even the Super Bowl but does not win, the same detractors will be calling him a choke artist that can not win the big one.

I fully understand that QBs are measured ultimately by the Super Bowl rings they wear. I also understand that two and a half years does not constitute a career.

Romo has to get better at certain parts of his game, but from the best I can tell so does nearly every other Cowboy on the roster.

The question has to be is Romo good enough to earn more opportunities to lead Dallas or not? For me it is a definite yes.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the whole not winning in the playoff game argument is ridiculous

how does one team usually make the postseason? great QB play, wow, what a concept

if Romo doesn't play lights out, he doesn't have a chance to lose in the playoffs, because Dallas probably doesn't make it there

you can't go straight to looking at his playoff record, and totally disregard his career stats