News: Tony Romo leaning toward having plate implanted in collarbone

[Beast_from_East]

I find it laughable that people want to waste our highest draft pick in two decades on a project QB. If there was a "Andrew Luck" type QB, I'd be all on board.. but none of these QBs are even close to being starting material from day 1. This is the worst group of QBs in a single class year that I can remember. There are question marks for every QB in this draft, yet folks still want to draft one in the first round. If you want to draft a backup.. go ahead! They'll be plenty of them after the first round that are not much worse than Goff or Wentz (nobody even knew who this guy was before the senior bowl).. C'mon people, our defense has way to many holes to be worried about a bench warmer..smh. Yet I know, they'll be plenty who will sarcastically disagree... of course they'll be the same people that will be "blaming Jerry" a year from now. smh. Funny, how quickly people forget that we had a decent backup in Orton, but that jerk quit on us. Go get a decent back up via free agency, then use this DL deep draft to help rebuild our defense.

for the record:

1- Jalen Ramsey (play making CB/S) [day 1 starter]
2- Vernon Butler DL [day 1 starter]
3- Alex Collins RB (played similar zone blocking scheme at AK) [would immediately contribute-year 2 starter]
4- Xavien Howard CB (could go DL again) [Dime package starter]
4- Dak Prescott (will only get better sitting behind Romo) [better than any back-up last year]
5- Glenn Gronkowski FB (if he's anything like he's brother...) (trade 6th) [day 1 starter]
6- Joe Schobert LB (tackling machine)
6- added another DL

So you don't want to take a QB with a top 5 pick because he will be a project, but instead you want to draft a guy that half the league thinks is a safety and the other half thinks is a corner?

And on top of that, your "play making" CB/S had exactly 0 interceptions last year.

Maybe its just me, but drafting a hybrid defensive back that cant catch in the top 5 screams project to me.

 

[Knotamus]

So you don't want to take a QB with a top 5 pick because he will be a project, but instead you want to draft a guy that half the league thinks is a safety and the other half thinks is a corner?

And on top of that, your "play making" CB/S had exactly 0 interceptions last year.

Maybe its just me, but drafting a hybrid defensive back that cant catch in the top 5 screams project to me.

I have a problem with drafting a QB at #4.. A player that isn't going to immediately help the team. It's well known that 1st rounder "should" be day 1 starters. I won't argue the stats.. But Ramsey is widely considered the best DB in the draft.(as he was a consensus All American) He's big and very athletic, those traits have worked for Seattle for some time now. But it really dosent matter.. A young "project" DB, will still atleast see the field.. Your "project" Qb, will be warming the bench. Hell, I don't care..draft Bosa, Elliot, Buckner, even Jacks busted up knees will help us more than small-town Wentz.. Or "turnover machine" Goff! Like I mentioned before..I'm for drafting a QB, just not with the first pick. But go ahead and ride that media hype train. To each his own.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I have a problem with drafting a QB at #4.. A player that isn't going to immediately help the team. It's well known that 1st rounder "should" be day 1 starters. I won't argue the stats.. But Ramsey is widely considered the best DB in the draft.(as he was a consensus All American) He's big and very athletic, those traits have worked for Seattle for some time now. But it really dosent matter.. A young "project" DB, will still atleast see the field.. Your "project" Qb, will be warming the bench. Hell, I don't care..draft Bosa, Elliot, Buckner, even Jacks busted up knees will help us more than small-town Wentz.. Or "turnover machine" Goff! Like I mentioned before..I'm for drafting a QB, just not with the first pick. But go ahead and ride that media hype train. To each his own.

Thinking like this leads to 20 years of apathy and mediocracy.

 

[Shinaoi]

We are in unique situation where have a good online and can get a good qb prospect and actually groom him. College is pumping out qb who aren't ready. This is a perfect time to not have to go through the pains of what replacing romo in 2 years will entitle. It's almost the perfect situation and it's staring us the face. To draft a CB would be be a massive mistake.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I have a problem with drafting a QB at #4.. A player that isn't going to immediately help the team. It's well known that 1st rounder "should" be day 1 starters. I won't argue the stats.. But Ramsey is widely considered the best DB in the draft.(as he was a consensus All American) He's big and very athletic, those traits have worked for Seattle for some time now. But it really dosent matter.. A young "project" DB, will still atleast see the field.. Your "project" Qb, will be warming the bench. Hell, I don't care..draft Bosa, Elliot, Buckner, even Jacks busted up knees will help us more than small-town Wentz.. Or "turnover machine" Goff! Like I mentioned before..I'm for drafting a QB, just not with the first pick. But go ahead and ride that media hype train. To each his own.

So the #2 qb behind Romo won't see any game action next year? Because Romo will make it thru all 16 games? Jalen Ramsey in 3 years of College ball, 41 games, and 3 ints.

 

[Iago33]

I would not be in favor of an attempt to strengthen via internal fixation. A plate requires screws, and they may actually weaken the bone at those sites. ORIF (open reduction and internal fixation) is used to stabilize fractures so that proper alignment can be achieved during healing. Once healed solid, the internal device becomes superfluous. An exception to that is an intramedulary nail or pin, which maintains alignment without screws; even those are sometimes removed after complete union.

Tony is too far along the healing process to introduce further complexity to the fracture site.
The Mumford procedure is a distal clavicular shortening - it does not affect the fracture site or have the potential for weakening the bone.

Therefore, if prudent orthopedists think ORiF is necessary, there must be a protracted non-union, due to unknown factors.

Thanks. The fact that they seem to be considering it this long afterwards is a real concern.

 

[Knotamus]

Thinking like this leads to 20 years of apathy and mediocracy.

yeah, because you cant find QB's other than the top of the first round..smh. Tell that to Romo, Brady, Brees, and Russell Wilson. And if College isn't pumping out sure fire staters like Peyton Manning, Luck, Newton, Ryan, and Roethlisburger anymore..and we have to groom them to be NFL starters.. that just make my point even more that we shouldn't invest our top pick on these mediocre QBs. Again, draft a QB to groom... later in the draft.

So the #2 qb behind Romo won't see any game action next year? Because Romo will make it thru all 16 games? Jalen Ramsey in 3 years of College ball, 41 games, and 3 ints.

and lets play the stat game if you want.. but your assuming Romo wont stay healthy, although the only thing that kept him out last year was his problematic collarbone that he's obviously having surgery to fix. So lets look at everyone's favorite QBs..

Goff- in his three year college career he had 23 fumbles and 30 INT'S!!! lol.. this guy..smh. I wouldn't draft this guy, period.

Wentz- was outperformed by three other QB's at the Senior Bowl. I do like the guy and think he could be a starter with grooming, but I could say the same thing about a few other QBs later in this draft.

Senior Bowl stats:

Brandon Allen (Ark) 7-10, 106 yds 0-0
Dak Prescott (Clanga) 7-10, 61 yds 1-0
Jacoby Brissett (NCSt) 5-6, 50 yds 0-0
Jeff Driskel (LaTech) 8-9, 108 yds 1-0
Carson Wentz (NDSt) 6-10, 50 yds 0-0
Cody Kessler (So Cal) 4-10, 45 yds 0-0
Kevin Hogan (Stanf) 3-4, 41 yds 0-0

Bottomline.. I'm with you guys as far as drafting a QB, so we're debating as to when.. Goff and Wentz are NOT far and away better than any of the other "groomable" QBs that could be had day 2 or 3. That's a fact. drafting a "groomable" guy at four is exactly what will set this franchise back.

 

[Shinaoi]

I'm okay with grabbing a later guy to groom if they think he has just as good of a development path, but would need more time.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

most overated in the NFL huh?

It's him or Eli no doubt

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

but your assuming Romo wont stay healthy, although the only thing that kept him out last year was his problematic collarbone that he's obviously having surgery to fix.

Just as that problematic rib injury that he had surgery to fix. If you are gonna breakdown all the problems the qb's had (In their careers), do the same for the defensive side of the ball with those players. (top guys)

 

[Knotamus]

Just as that problematic rib injury that he had surgery to fix. If you are gonna breakdown all the problems the qb's had (In their careers), do the same for the defensive side of the ball with those players.

Point taken, but I think you'll agree that you cant compare QB's to any defensive player. Defensive players are statically easier to plug-n-play than QB. If your wanting a player with the least amount of holes..draft Elliott. But I guess RBs aren't important. I'm sure the Rams are happy to have Gurley though. Elliott would become a ProBowler by year 2 (maybe his rookie season) behind our #1 OL. The last time we drafted a RB that high, he only turned into the ALL-TIME leading rusher.. but of course, I guess we cant even consider this because NFL teams don't draft RBs this high anymore.

I hoping that we devote the top of our draft on defense due to the multiple holes we have.. not to mention, Defense Wins Championships! [that's a consensus fact..research the list of SB champs]

We have a top ten QB.. we need a defense. I.E. Denver

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Point taken, but I think you;ll agree that you cant compare QB's to any defensive player. Defensive players are statically easier to plug-n-play than QB. If your wanting a player with the least amount of holes..draft Elliott. But I guess RBs aren't important. I'm sure the Rams are happy to have Gurley though. Elliott would become a ProBowler by year 2 (maybe his rookie season) behind our #1 OL. The last time we drafted a RB that high, he only turned into the ALL-TIME leading rusher.. but of course, I guess we cant even consider this because NFL teams don't draft RBs this high anymore.

I hoping that we devote the top of our draft on defense due to the multiple holes we have.. not to mention, Defense Wins Championships! [a consensus fact..research the list of SB champs]

We have a top ten QB.. we need a defense. I.E. Denver

We have a top ten QB that's 36 and can't stay healthy. This team has a lot of holes on d, that the Draft/Free Agency won't solve anytime soon.

 

[Knotamus]

We have a top ten QB that's 36 and can't stay healthy.

Yep, and Denver had an even older Qb that couldn't stay healthy (Hell, he could barely even throw the ball). And they won the SB because of Defensive.

Again, I'm with you as far as grabbing a Qb. I get that Romo is older, but you can still win in the NFL with defense. (Guess I can't say this enough).. Draft a Qb in the later rounds bc this years QB class is weak and you can find similar "groomable" QBs day 2.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yep, and Denver had an even older Qb that couldn't stay healthy (Hell, he could barely even throw the ball). And they win the SB because of Defensive.

Again, I'm with you as far as grabbing a Qb. I get that Romo is older, but you can stil win in the NFL with defense. (Guess I can't say this enough).. Draft a Qb in the later rounds bc this years QB class is weak and you can find similar "groomable" QBs day 2.

Again, the draft and free agency won't give us a d anywhere near Denver's, Carolina's, or Seattle's. We are so far from seeing a Super Bowl. Draft the QB at #4.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Yep, and Denver had an even older Qb that couldn't stay healthy (Hell, he could barely even throw the ball). And they won the SB because of Defensive.

Again, I'm with you as far as grabbing a Qb. I get that Romo is older, but you can still win in the NFL with defense. (Guess I can't say this enough).. Draft a Qb in the later rounds bc this years QB class is weak and you can find similar "groomable" QBs day 2.

Yet without Osweiller they wouldn't of been there.. Even Manning alluded to this..

 

[Knotamus]

Again, the draft and free agency won't give us a d anywhere near Denver's, Carolina's, or Seattle's. We are so far from seeing a Super Bowl. Draft the QB at #4.

Drafting a back-up Qb that needs grooming won't get us any closer. I mean, people are arguing to draft a backup at #4..just insanity. Draft your back up day 2.. Geez, smh

And I'd have to disagree.. The Boys have plenty of cap space and enough early draft pics that could make our defense SB worthy.. We have good defensive players already in Scandrick, Crawford, Lee, Hitchens, Lawrence, Gregory, Irving, Jones, and Church is solid. Get a CB in the draft and FA add talent to Marenilli's line..yeah, it's possible to get this team back to the playoff next year.

 

[Knotamus]

Yet without Osweiller they wouldn't of been there.. Even Manning alluded to this..

Yep, I'm not saying "don't draft a QB"...

So when was Osweiller drafted? Hmmm..

Thanks for proving my point. Next.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Drafting a back-up Qb that needs grooming won't get us any closer. I mean, people are arguing to draft a backup at #4..just insanity. Draft your back up day 2.. Geez, smh

And I'd have to disagree.. The Boys have plenty of cap space and enough early draft pics that could make our defense SB worthy.. We have good defensive players already in Scandrick, Crawford, Lee, Hitchens, Lawrence, Gregory, Irving, Jones, and Church is solid. Get a CB in the draft and FA and add talent to Marenilli's line..yeah, it's possible to get this team back to the playoff next year.

Not worthy enough. Scandrick isn't a playmaker. Crawford shows flashes but that's it. Lee is what he is. Hitchens did nothing this past year. Gregory, likes the green stuff. So we have cap space, so do other teams. So we have draft picks, so do other teams. Keep dreaming, we are no where near a SB caliber dominate d.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yep, I'm not saying "don't draft a QB"...

So when was Osweiller drafted? Hmmm..

Thanks for proving my point. Next.

That's a point? Next.

 

[Knotamus]

That's a point? Next.

Sorry you can't figure it out.. Denver knew they wanted a Qb to "groom", but they still drafted DE Wolfe first to improve their Defense. Wolfe is one of top FreeAgents this year and Osweiller ride the bench much of his career.. Now Denver is faced with paying or Losing him..
That's definitely not what you want from #4. Now if you want to mimic Denver and grab Bosa.. Then grab a Qb later in the draft. Have at it. Not sure why this is hard to understand.