Twitter: Tony Romo talking with Norm - 12/28/15

[cheftjpeck]

Drafting a franchise qb has less to do with talent evaluation in any particular year and more to do with available talent in a particular year as well as your draft position .. More busts than franchise ..It's not just current regime it's prior as well..
Look back through qbs outside of the studs named Aikman and Staubach.
Meredith was good
Morton ok
White .. Record setter but not much in winning the big games thing (something Romo is often labeled with)
Then there were these picks over the years.... Not exactly franchise qb
88- Scott Secules 151/ 6th round
87- Kevin Sweeney 180/7th round
86- Stan Gelbaugh 150/6th round
84 Steve Pelluer 113 / 5th round
83 Reggie Collier 132/6th round
80- Gary Hogeboom 133/5th round
77- Glenn Carano. 54/2nd round
77- Steve Deberg 275/10th round
Etc etc

My point is that whether it's current regime or regimes of yesteryear it truly is a little bit of luck too .. Perfect storm like 1989..of course Landry stated he would've drafted Aikman too but it was perfect storm a 3-13 season giving them a number one pick in a year when a proven blue chip qb was there ...
Does that player exist this year ? I do think if the right player is there that helps the team win now and in the future .. You get him .. But understand that he could bust .. Does that mean our talent evaluators are bad or is it the luck of the draw ... QB is the toughest position to peg right ..all we can do is hope the right player is picked

 

[visionary]

Hey tony, I guess you won't be seeing Brady in February after all

 

[visionary]

Drafting a franchise qb has less to do with talent evaluation in any particular year and more to do with available talent in a particular year as well as your draft position .. More busts than franchise ..It's not just current regime it's prior as well..
Look back through qbs outside of the studs named Aikman and Staubach.
Meredith was good
Morton ok
White .. Record setter but not much in winning the big games thing (something Romo is often labeled with)
Then there were these picks over the years.... Not exactly franchise qb
88- Scott Secules 151/ 6th round
87- Kevin Sweeney 180/7th round
86- Stan Gelbaugh 150/6th round
84 Steve Pelluer 113 / 5th round
83 Reggie Collier 132/6th round
80- Gary Hogeboom 133/5th round
77- Glenn Carano. 54/2nd round
77- Steve Deberg 275/10th round
Etc etc

My point is that whether it's current regime or regimes of yesteryear it truly is a little bit of luck too .. Perfect storm like 1989..of course Landry stated he would've drafted Aikman too but it was perfect storm a 3-13 season giving them a number one pick in a year when a proven blue chip qb was there ...
Does that player exist this year ? I do think if the right player is there that helps the team win now and in the future .. You get him .. But understand that he could bust .. Does that mean our talent evaluators are bad or is it the luck of the draw ... QB is the toughest position to peg right ..all we can do is hope the right player is picked

If you're constantly going to run scared because you don't have confidence in your talent evaluation then you may as well give up. The fact is that 1 if the top 3 QBs will be a top 10 QB 5 years from now. It is up to our FO to make the right decision instead of crapping the bed

 

[Ashwynn]

I hope they put in a plate and don't go QB in the first. I have zero confidence in their quarter back talent evaluation.

You must not have been around after Aikman. remember Carter, Hutch, Stoerner, Bledosoe etc... I cant remember all the scrubs we ran out there hoping they would pan out. Going cheap at this position hoping you catch lightning in a bottle is no way to build a championship team. Like was said, throw numbers at it, draft a QB every year. Cant skimp at the QB position. Romo was lightning in a bottle, we got lucky. I dont want to go through the post Aikman year again after Romo.

No guarantees any QB in this draft will be any good. But Lynch and Goff seem the closest thing to a first tier QB, maybe not a Romo type, but should be good enough to win with. If you can get one, get him.

 

[superonyx]

Why do I have more confidence in Tony Romo to evaluate a QB than I do JG and company?

I generally don't want players involved in this. Something seems different with Romo.

 

[BAZ]

You must not have been around after Aikman.

Just stop, I was around.

 

[cheftjpeck]

If you're constantly going to run scared because you don't have confidence in your talent evaluation then you may as well give up. The fact is that 1 if the top 3 QBs will be a top 10 QB 5 years from now. It is up to our FO to make the right decision instead of crapping the bed

I am personally not running scared at all .. My point is no matter WHO the talent evaluator is .. It's still a crapshoot ..

Now I will still disagree with your statement where you say it's a FACT that 1 of the top 3 QB's taken in this draft will be a top 10 qb in 5 years .. That isn't a FACT .. That is speculation and history supports that

 

[ringmaster]

Drafting a franchise qb has less to do with talent evaluation in any particular year and more to do with available talent in a particular year as well as your draft position .. More busts than franchise ..It's not just current regime it's prior as well..
Look back through qbs outside of the studs named Aikman and Staubach.
Meredith was good
Morton ok
White .. Record setter but not much in winning the big games thing (something Romo is often labeled with)
Then there were these picks over the years.... Not exactly franchise qb
88- Scott Secules 151/ 6th round
87- Kevin Sweeney 180/7th round
86- Stan Gelbaugh 150/6th round
84 Steve Pelluer 113 / 5th round
83 Reggie Collier 132/6th round
80- Gary Hogeboom 133/5th round
77- Glenn Carano. 54/2nd round
77- Steve Deberg 275/10th round
Etc etc

My point is that whether it's current regime or regimes of yesteryear it truly is a little bit of luck too .. Perfect storm like 1989..of course Landry stated he would've drafted Aikman too but it was perfect storm a 3-13 season giving them a number one pick in a year when a proven blue chip qb was there ...
Does that player exist this year ? I do think if the right player is there that helps the team win now and in the future .. You get him .. But understand that he could bust .. Does that mean our talent evaluators are bad or is it the luck of the draw ... QB is the toughest position to peg right ..all we can do is hope the right player is picked

I agree that drafting a QB, isn't an exact science it's more luck than smarts of talent evaluators if people say that they knew QBs like Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Warner, Aikman, etc were going to be sure things when they were drafted with the exception of Warner would be lying to themselves each one of the QBs had very successful careers with 10 SBs victories between all of them as you stated let's just hope they find a QB to groom behind Tony and be the apparent heir once he retires be it in this draft or future drafts hoping that guy is in this upcoming draft the handwriting is on the wall for a QB and the FO knows this.

 

[visionary]

I am personally not running scared at all .. My point is no matter WHO the talent evaluator is .. It's still a crapshoot ..

Now I will still disagree with your statement where you say it's a FACT that 1 of the top 3 QB's taken in this draft will be a top 10 qb in 5 years .. That isn't a FACT .. That is speculation and history supports that

history supports that it is a crap shoot only if you can't evaluate talent

Like I said, if you don't have faith in your talent evaluators then you may as well give up (which sounds like you obviously have)

 

[Mr Cowboy]

So your response to failed personnel decisions in the past is to just stop trying. Rebuild Romo until he's eligible for medicare.

No. I think this is exactly why you push for a QB early in the draft if the scouting grade is there. It's less of a projection. Take another in the draft too. Throw numbers at the position. Get it right so we don't have to play in the have nots conference in the NFL post-Romo.

The fact that you have no confidence in this front office's ability to find a QB should make you want them to get on it ASAP. It may take several attempts. Not wait until they have nothing and you're in crisis mode.

I agree with this, if they don't start looking for a QB, especially with a prime pick, they will be reaching for years to come, and most likely missing.

 

[windward]

Here's our QB draft history since our talent evaluators aren't trusted; I'll keep it at 25 years of history for simplicity sake:

2009 - Stephen McGee - Round 4, Pick 101
2002 - Quincy Carter - Round 2, Pick 53
1991 - Bill Musgrave - Round 4, Pick 106

The simple fact is that we don't draft QB's. We try and develop UFA's or vagabond veterans, but we've drafted three QB's in the last 25 years and none at an extremely premium pick. It's gotten us enough playoff wins to count on one hand and enough SB's to count on Captain Hook's hand.

Look around the league and you'll see that most starting QB's are high draft picks. They vary in quality, but the trend is obvious.

I'll file this with "Jerry will never draft an OL in the first."

 

[knightrider94]

Dallas needs to plan to draft 2-3 QBs over the next three years.

 

[cheftjpeck]

history supports that it is a crap shoot only if you can't evaluate talent

Like I said, if you don't have faith in your talent evaluators then you may as well give up (which sounds like you obviously have)

Way to put words in my mouth

Why don't you read ..
Then when you think you comprehend my point read again.. Ok?

Where do I say I have lost faith in talent evaluation ????? Where???

I simply state that evaluators over the years have been wrong too .., IT IS others who say they have no faith in our current evaluators .. Then they say show qbs taken since 91... I was pointing out that outside of a few former cowboy qbs the franchise as a whole has had its share of mis picks at qb when looking for that successor .. I personally love our chances of getting a good player not just in the first round but subsequent rounds as well...
Where we disagree is where you say it's a fact that one of the top 3 qbs taken in this years draft is guaranteed to be a top 10 qb in 5 years ..
That isn't factual ... That is pure speculation
So I understand your a visionary .. But even as wise as you are .. You can't predict future events as factual ..

I trust our teams evaluators will find there next Zach Martin, Travis Frederick, Tyron Smith etc .., but my realist side also understands that there is a chance of a Claiborne pick in there as well.. That's not losing faith .. That's understanding the FACT that even the best evaluators of talent can make a mistake ...
Let's agree to both hope they don't and that we find our next Aikman!!! That would be sweet !!!
I've been a cowboys fan for more than 40 years... I never give up or lose faith .. So don't confuse me with others visionary .., thx

Go cowboys !!!!

 

[cheftjpeck]

I'll file this with "Jerry will never draft an OL in the first."

It's also selective facts to prove an agenda... Making a claim that current regimes suck ... Well guess what that's why I pointed out in my post if you look back over the years previous regimes struggled as well at finding replacement qbs ... We have to stop acting like current regime has no talent evaluation skills and give them some credit too for some pretty darn good picks over the years

 

[FLCowboyFan]

You have to love Romo. He knows that the game has a limited window for every player and he loves the team more than he worries about his job!

 

[ringmaster]

I'll file this with "Jerry will never draft an OL in the first."

Yeah we as fans can definitely put that one in the files as we know both Smith, and Martin were 1st round picks and are bona fide picks Frederick, was like a 1st round pick in 2013 a pick most of us frowned at when they traded down with San Fran to take him now he's one of the premier centers in the game right now. As for QB well we'll have to put that one on file too because drafting one is inevitable which round however is anybody's guess.

 

[Deep_South]

Exactly. Truth is, Romo is going anywhere yet. Jerry has already stated basically what you're saying. They haven't wanted to spend a top draft pick on a QB, only to groom him for the bench, and for another team to grab in FA at the highest bidder. I'm up for a 3rd or 4th especially, since we have so many 4ths. 1st and 2nd should be starters on your football team, unless you're so stacked at every position, that you can spend it on backups. Clearly we are not.

Having two good quarterbacks is a problem we need to have, regardless of how the front office tries to spin it. I mean, the idea that you don't want to draft a quarterback because he might turn out to be real good is just silly.

 

[DABOYZ]

Can we at least eliminate the chance that we draft a former baseball player?

 

[Cebrin]

Having two good quarterbacks is a problem we need to have, regardless of how the front office tries to spin it. I mean, the idea that you don't want to draft a quarterback because he might turn out to be real good is just silly.

Not what I said. If Romo plays 2 more years, that's 2 years you have a 1 Rd pick sitting on the bench. That's plausible now, but I can see why they haven't drafted high in some time for QB. Personally, I don't think there's a top 10 talent at QB anywhere in this draft. They're all projects.

 

[MagicMan]

Well, anyone that wants to see Paxton Lynch do his thing can see him Wed noon Central when he goes against Auburn.

Goff playing today Tues at noon Central against Air Force.