Tony Romo's five worst moments with the Dallas Cowboys, ranked

Plankton

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I think we would have lost anyway. Same with the Dez "No Catch" Game.

I don't.

They were inside the 2 minute warning with the ball at the 1, if they were given the first. The Cowboys could have bled the clock down to near zero.
 

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I don't.

They were inside the 2 minute warning with the ball at the 1, if they were given the first. The Cowboys could have bled the clock down to near zero.

And the Seahawks either let them score or the Cowboys try to score. Either way, there's still time on the clock.

And let's assume that they bleed the clock down so they can kick the field goal. The same situation likely would have occurred because Seattle admitted that a new, slippery "K" ball was used, the one Romo dropped.
 

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And the Seahawks either let them score or the Cowboys try to score. Either way, there's still time on the clock.

And let's assume that they bleed the clock down so they can kick the field goal. The same situation likely would have occurred because Seattle admitted that a new, slippery "K" ball was used, the one Romo dropped.

Hard to let a team score when they would take a knee.

And, I don't subscribe to the fallacy of the predetermined outcome, so I don't think that it's certain or even likely that Romo would drop the snap in the other situation.
 

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Hard to let a team score when they would take a knee.

But you're taking a knee to set up a field goal.

And, I don't subscribe to the fallacy of the predetermined outcome, so I don't think that it's certain or even likely that Romo would drop the snap in the other situation.

It depends the situation, though. If this were just a mistaken bobble, I would agree with you. But the Seahawks ball boy PURPOSELY retrieved an extra slick ball. I think it would have been likely that a Romo unaccustomed to handling a slick ball would have made the same mistake because the condition of the ball was unfavorable to Romo, no matter where the ball was set for the field goal.

But this is all conjecture, not provable by any means. So your point is noted.
 

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Note:

The ball was purposely greased in Seattle. Anyone except Spider-Man would've dropped it.

There was so much light glare coming off that ball...I seriously started seeing spots. I'm sure that was the moment JJ Abrams was inspred to use lens flares in his movies.:rolleyes:
 

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But you're taking a knee to set up a field goal.

Precisely - you don't allow the other team to regain possession of the ball. And, you take the give up play away from them. It's the best percentage play with the highest likelihood of success.



It depends the situation, though. If this were just a mistaken bobble, I would agree with you. But the Seahawks ball boy PURPOSELY retrieved an extra slick ball. I think it would have been likely that a Romo unaccustomed to handling a slick ball would have made the same mistake because the condition of the ball was unfavorable to Romo, no matter where the ball was set for the field goal.

But this is all conjecture, not provable by any means. So your point is noted.

I think the slick ball thing was bunk. Ladouceur had no problems getting off a good snap - shouldn't his hands have slipped if the ball was extra slick? Romo just flat dropped the ball.
 

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As there is with any QB. No one is saying Romo is perfect, I'm just saying look at his entire career and judge him on the whole, not based off of a couple of select moments.
Uhhh. I think that's what we're all trying to say.
 

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I will forever wonder how that game would have turned out had JWit's catch been spotted for a first down instead of mis-spotted short of the first down.
Totally agreed. Though, from TV angles, it seemed likely Witten had not made it to the marker, there was no clear shot showing he had come up short...I always felt they overturned that play without indisputable evidence. We still should have won, of course.

Florio was going on yesterday on his show about how Romo going on to have a great career showed how much mental toughness he had, and I totally agree with that. Someone made of lesser stuff would have been psychologically ruined by that moment.
 

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The next year, at Washington in week 15, with herniated disc,btw, Romo led the game-winning drive for the win.
He would have a back operation a few days later. So a pretty heroic effort.
If Dallas had lost, it was season over. That is win or go home.
Unfortunately, the next week, I the same situation at home, the Kyle Orton led Cowboys lost to Philly.

Ah, gotcha...I was just thinking "Wait--Cowboys didn't make the playoffs the next year" lol...

And I hate saying this (lol), but I agree with those who feel Romo deserves more than a thread highlighting his failures. He was a really ******* good QB and gave his body over willingly for his team. One of the best QBs ever at extending a play and making something happen.

I just threw up in my mouth a little...
 

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I think the slick ball thing was bunk. Ladouceur had no problems getting off a good snap - shouldn't his hands have slipped if the ball was extra slick? Romo just flat dropped the ball.
I disagree based upon personal experience playing in the rain as a center. Water is a natural lubricant. As a center, you try (or ask the ref handling the ball) your best to keep the ball as dry as possible despite the rain in order to get the best grip possible to snap the ball.

You can lay a towel atop that sucker and it can still get exceptionally slippery in the moments before you snap it. However, you can get a decent grip on the ball no matter how slippery it is given enough time to handle it. Receiving the ball in the rain can still be a problem though for the quarterback--who tries keeping his hands as dry as possible too--and any player getting the ball delivered to him from the quarterback. It's the reason why multiple players mishandle the ball sometimes even though the initial player doesn't.

I'm trying to remember if Ladouceur was a one-handed or two-handed snapper? I would disagree more if Ladouceur was a two-hander. You can still get a good spin on a slippery ball deepsnapping using two hands. The extra palm surface helps immensely in the ball's delivery.
 

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Ah, gotcha...I was just thinking "Wait--Cowboys didn't make the playoffs the next year" lol...

And I hate saying this (lol), but I agree with those who feel Romo deserves more than a thread highlighting his failures. He was a really ******* good QB and gave his body over willingly for his team. One of the best QBs ever at extending a play and making something happen.

I just threw up in my mouth a little...
lol!
 

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If we're talking worst "moment" it would have to be the botched hold vs Seattle in the 2006 playoffs.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how people can clearly remember how 'badly' Romo performed during the Eagles game but don't have any recollection of how his teammates performed in the exact same game. Some people should REALLY go back and re-watch that game.

Wait. Never mind. I forgot the One Player Equals Football Team mentality some people believe completely. The effort would be totally wasted.
Funny you should say that because I know I've read several posts where Romo has single-handedly brought the team to Victory

But it works that way right
 

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I disagree based upon personal experience playing in the rain as a center. Water is a natural lubricant. As a center, you try (or ask the ref handling the ball) your best to keep the ball as dry as possible despite the rain in order to get the best grip possible to snap the ball.

You can lay a towel atop that sucker and it can still get exceptionally slippery in the moments before you snap it. However, you can get a decent grip on the ball no matter how slippery it is given enough time to handle it. Receiving the ball in the rain can still be a problem though for the quarterback--who tries keeping his hands as dry as possible too--and any player getting the ball delivered to him from the quarterback. It's the reason why multiple players mishandle the ball sometimes even though the initial player doesn't.

I'm trying to remember if Ladouceur was a one-handed or two-handed snapper? I would disagree more if Ladouceur was a two-hander. You can still get a good spin on a slippery ball deepsnapping using two hands. The extra palm surface helps immensely in the ball's delivery.

Seems like I remember there being a stink over the fact that new balls or kicking balls were also used on that play. You are right though, it's a different thing to handle the ball when you are snapping it and fielding the ball when you are setting it. You can snap the ball but not get any real snap on it and it can still be a bad snap, even though it gets there. It doesn't come in the same. Sometimes, even worse, you can get a snap that has good rotation and then the ball is wet and it's really hard to get it cleanly. However, if you watch it, the snap is bad. I mean, the announcer even calls it. The snap is way right. Tony has to reach back, across his body, to pull it in and try to get it down.

Some will call all of this excuse but if you have ever done that job, you can't tell me that all of that was on Tony. You just can't. New slick balls (which is not supposed to happen BTW), wet conditions, pressure of the game, bad snap and yet, nobody blames the NFL or the LSer, they blame Tony. Never mind the fact that nobody in the NFL uses starting QBs to field snaps anymore. Tony should never have been out there to begin with IMO.

I don't think that's right but that's the way it is.
 

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But you're taking a knee to set up a field goal.



It depends the situation, though. If this were just a mistaken bobble, I would agree with you. But the Seahawks ball boy PURPOSELY retrieved an extra slick ball. I think it would have been likely that a Romo unaccustomed to handling a slick ball would have made the same mistake because the condition of the ball was unfavorable to Romo, no matter where the ball was set for the field goal.

But this is all conjecture, not provable by any means. So your point is noted.
Out of all of the bs things that has happened to the guy over the years, this is the one that still pisses me off the most. What they did was outright cheating (imo)and they were rewarded with a playoff win.
 

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Funny you should say that because I know I've read several posts where Romo has single-handedly brought the team to Victory

But it works that way right
No. You're right. No quarterback wins games by themselves. I can't tell you how much I loathe the talk of Tom Brady beating Atlanta single-handedly in the Super Bowl. However, the fact that anyone inappropriately props up Romo over what the team does does not explain the Philadelphia game (and any other game for that matter) amnesia any differently.
 
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