Too early, no make that waaaaay too early, 1st draft pick priority?

conner01

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The priority for the first pick today will be the same as on draft day. Draft the best available player and get ready for the next round
 

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I bet if the best player available is a RB or DT the cowboys won't take them. I think the best player available approach is only useful when you have a lot of positions if need.

But I'm sure agree my bro. This was more for the person you respOnded to
Absolutely. What would another top QB or RB do for the Cowboys. They need passrush heat. Clubs have specific needs. BPA does not always fill that need.
 

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If the best player available is a running back,kicker, punter,fullback or DT, we should probably pass and get something we need.
It's not going to be a FB, kicker or punter and never will be. there is very rarely one clear cut best player later in the draft unless a guy has some red flags and falls
 

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I get that it's conventional wisdom that Tony won't be here next season, but I'm one of those who stop well short of suggesting it's a given. He costs too much, yes, but he was going to cost too much had Dak never risen to starter status. From a FO budget planning perspective, in fact, all that's changed is that they don't actually need to spend an additional $5m or so on a back-up anymore. Really comes down, imo, to what Tony wants to do. Sure, he might want to go elsewhere, but then again, there is a stout argument for why he might not... even a stout financial argument for why he might not, since under this current situation, he is better able to project one more contract (ie, since he's likely to be taking fewer snaps over the next 3 years... less wear and tear).

So while FA is a consideration in addressing the original question, I'm hesitant to assume we're going to remedy any weaknesses that way.
 

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I bet if the best player available is a RB or DT the cowboys won't take them. I think the best player available approach is only useful when you have a lot of positions if need.

But I'm sure agree my bro. This was more for the person you respOnded to

Let's assume Leonard Fournette or Dalvin Cook is available at the end of the first round. Do you take them?
That would be a very strong one-two punch in the back field. That would be EXTREMELY hard to pass up.
 

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I'm one of those who says CB, given our pending free agents. My rationale is, this defense with a decent enough set of cornerbacks has proven it can win even w/o an elite pass rushing DE. And, that we have some young talent in the barn who plausibly can emerge next training camp.

Then, I think we should go for a QB after that. (I kid.)
BPA or WR.
 

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How many more OL do the Cowboys need with the 1st round pick? None. How many teams take the BPA option...not many...they reach, sure, but they reach for what they need!
Thank you. This BPA nonsense irks me to no end. Good teams don't do that without using common sense. We aren't drafting a center at 32 if it's BPA.
 

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Let's assume Leonard Fournette or Dalvin Cook is available at the end of the first round. Do you take them?
That would be a very strong one-two punch in the back field. That would be EXTREMELY hard to pass up.
But I think they would pass it up, by either trading the pick for what they hoped would be a bounty in 2017, or trying to do a deal that would load them up for the 2018 Draft. While the value of Cook or Fournette at that spot would be undeniable, the value to the Cowboys would not be as great...primarily because Ezekial Elliot is here. Two stud WR's, LB's or OLineman, sure! But RB's? The named positions can all be on the field at the same time, allowing for maxium value. RB, not the case.
 

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I think I'll decide after the playoffs are over. There are some young guys on the D-line who could really step it up and turn a very much perceived weakness into a strength and who knows what we have in Tapper. I will say, a stud tight end would really create some major mis-matched down the field. Look what the the Chiefs Tight End did last night as both a blocker and a receiving tight end. I love Wit, but he certainly isn't fleet of foot anymore.
 

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I think I'll decide after the playoffs are over. There are some young guys on the D-line who could really step it up and turn a very much perceived weakness into a strength and who knows what we have in Tapper. I will say, a stud tight end would really create some major mis-matched down the field. Look what the the Chiefs Tight End did last night as both a blocker and a receiving tight end. I love Wit, but he certainly isn't fleet of foot anymore.
Yeah it's sooooo clear that a tight end is more important to a qb like Dak than a wr. If Howard is at 32 with Ross or a top DE I'm taking Howard. If Romo was qb I'd take Ross.
 

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But I think they would pass it up, by either trading the pick for what they hoped would be a bounty in 2017, or trying to do a deal that would load them up for the 2018 Draft. While the value of Cook or Fournette at that spot would be undeniable, the value to the Cowboys would not be as great...primarily because Ezekial Elliot is here. Two stud WR's, LB's or OLineman, sure! But RB's? The named positions can all be on the field at the same time, allowing for maxium value. RB, not the case.

Fournette and Cook would be hard to pass up, but I see your point.
 

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I'm one of those who says CB, given our pending free agents. My rationale is, this defense with a decent enough set of cornerbacks has proven it can win even w/o an elite pass rushing DE. And, that we have some young talent in the barn who plausibly can emerge next training camp.

Then, I think we should go for a QB after that. (I kid.)
You win in the trenches you win! So, you build from the inside out. Go DT or DE and make the Cowboys Super Bowl Champs for a few times.
 

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It has to be defense and more specifically the defensive line.

That said, folks need to be prepared for something different if the Cowboys don't want to force the issue if there's not value at the time of the pick.

TE, OL, WR should all be on the board.
 

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You win in the trenches you win! So, you build from the inside out. Go DT or DE and make the Cowboys Super Bowl Champs for a few times.

First, rest assured, I'm not saying that DE isn't somewhere on the priority list.

It's more about the paucity of help at CB.

- Claiborne's contract is done
- Scandrick's contract is a $6m hit on next year's cap, so entirely plausible that that's going to be a cut
- Carr's contract has only one more year.

We have the #1 rush defense. We have 4 plausible (though all admittedly with question marks) pass rushing assets at DE going into next year's training camp: Lawrence, Irving, Gregory, and Tapper. The way he's come on of-late, might even add Mayowa to that list before it's said and done.
 

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They will draft BPA like they always do in the first round. It's not rocket science. If they don't want the BPA when their pick comes up they will attempt to trade out of that pick. Reaching for need gets you Shante Carver. Drafting BPA gets you Ezekiel Elliott. Those of you who would take lesser talent over better talent I don't want anywhere near my war room.
 

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They will draft BPA like they always do in the first round. It's not rocket science. If they don't want the BPA when their pick comes up they will attempt to trade out of that pick. Reaching for need gets you Shante Carver. Drafting BPA gets you Ezekiel Elliott. Those of you who would take lesser talent over better talent I don't want anywhere near my war room.
Lesser talent meaning a 1-2 point difference? Yea, no winning teams do that. Again, let's use common sense here. Why trade back if a guy at a position of need is only a few points off of the guy you wanted to take?
 

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What do you think of Howard from Alabama?



Dude can catch but just as important to this team, he can block.

I think an round TE suits this offense more than the new hybrid type TE. It seems we can't get those guys into the game plan or the offense in general.

I think Howard would be a great fit
 
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