Tough to knock Dak's contract now

[Diehardblues]

With Dak barely still in the top 10 salaries now with only Wilson and Cousins at 35 million below him because they’re contracts are nearing their maturity we can finally put to rest how much Dak is being over paid.

And if Jethro had resigned Dak when he initially wanted what Wilson was making at 35 million we’d be in much better shape.

I suspect by the time Jackson, Burrows and Herbert resign their deals Dak won’t even be in top 10-12.

We need to stop calling these QB being paid Elite deals. They are Market Prices.

And we really need to stop looking at yearly average which means very little. Cap hits are what’s important.

Daks cap hit last year was 17 mil and 19 mil this year. Yes, 49 next year and 52 in 2024 but most likely will restructure or resign by then which with signing bonuses always pushes these huge contracts to back end.

 

[shabazz]

Sure is a lot of overpaid mediocrity in that top 9

 

[PAPPYDOG]

troll some more, please.

Ya total Troll, in fact, he should arrest himself as he is after all the Troll Police!!

 

[phildadon86]

With Dak barely still in the top 10 salaries now with only Wilson and Cousins at 35 million below him because they’re contracts are nearing their maturity we can finally put to rest how much Dak is being over paid.

And if Jethro had resigned Dak when he initially wanted what Wilson was making at 35 million we’d be in much better shape.

I suspect by the time Jackson, Burrows and Herbert resign their deals Dak won’t even be in top 10-12.

We need to stop calling these QB being paid Elite deals. They are Market Prices.

And we really need to stop looking at yearly average which means very little. Cap hits are what’s important.

Daks cap hit last year was 17 mil and 19 mil this year. Yes, 49 next year and 52 in 2024 but most likely will restructure or resign by then which with signing bonuses always pushes these huge contracts to back end.

Did this really require another thread my dude?

 

[Diehardblues]

Sure is a lot of overpaid mediocrity in that top 9

That’s the norm of the NFL paying Market Prices to secure a Franchise QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

Having a QB good enough to remain competitive for the playoffs is worth paying Market Price.

 

[Sydla]

If Dak doesn't play at an elite level in 2022, yeah, you can still knock his contract.

Again, just because teams are signing QBs to big deals doesn't somehow make all other large QB contracts now fair or smart decisions.

 

[DFWJC]

merge thread

Plus the data in the OP is false anyway.
The "average" salary of some of those is lower because they were extensions after this year.
Stafford gets 23 mil this year, Carr gets 20, for example. Average that in with the extension and they drop way down

Ex. Stafford
(23+40+40+40+40=183)
183/ 5= 36.6 average

facts matter

 

[Brax]

With Dak barely still in the top 10 salaries now with only Wilson and Cousins at 35 million below him because they’re contracts are nearing their maturity we can finally put to rest how much Dak is being over paid.

And if Jethro had resigned Dak when he initially wanted what Wilson was making at 35 million we’d be in much better shape.

I suspect by the time Jackson, Burrows and Herbert resign their deals Dak won’t even be in top 10-12.

We need to stop calling these QB being paid Elite deals. They are Market Prices.

And we really need to stop looking at yearly average which means very little. Cap hits are what’s important.

Daks cap hit last year was 17 mil and 19 mil this year. Yes, 49 next year and 52 in 2024 but most likely will restructure or resign by then which with signing bonuses always pushes these huge contracts to back end.

Trolling again I see, and yes they are paying Dak way too much that's the only debate to this point. Keep pushing top dollars for a no show QB, not smart.

 

[HungryLion]

If Dak doesn't play at an elite level in 2022, yeah, you can still knock his contract.

Again, just because teams are signing QBs to big deals doesn't somehow make all other large QB contracts now fair or smart decisions.

I would just like a little more recognition from some folks that cutting Dak and moving on also Carrie’s a ton of risks and could put the cowboys in a position where they spend a decade searching for a viable replacement.

 

[Diehardblues]

If Dak doesn't play at an elite level in 2022, yeah, you can still knock his contract.

Again, just because teams are signing QBs to big deals doesn't somehow make all other large QB contracts now fair or smart decisions.

So, teams shouldn’t be resigning their Franchise QB’s to Market Price?

Instead when they have found a QB good enough to lead them to a competitive level in the playoffs they should just abort because the price is temporarily above their pecking order in the league?

And this fact is even arguable because most often their Cap hits are usually much less at least for a couple seasons.

The alternative is releasing these QB’s and starting over every 3-5 years until you eventually find one of the Top 5 Elite caliber QB’s.

Unfortunately franchises are more interested in remaining competitive than rebuilding all of the time.

 

[Diehardblues]

Trolling again I see, and yes they are paying Dak way too much that's the only debate to this point. Keep pushing top dollars for a no show QB, not smart.

The Dak trolls can’t stand it.

Dak is worth it to remain relative and competitive. Much like the rest of these less than Elite QB’s signing Market Prices. Which is the bigger point.

 

[HungryLion]

So, teams shouldn’t be resigning their Franchise QB’s to Market Price?

Instead when they have found a QB good enough to lead them to a competitive level in the playoffs they should just abort because the price is temporarily above their pecking order in the league?

And this fact is even arguable because most often their Cap hits are usually much less at least for a couple seasons.

The alternative is releasing these WB’s and starting over every 3-5 years until you eventually find one of the Top 5 Elite caliber QB’s.

Unfortunately franchises are more interested in remaining competitive than rebuilding all of the time.

People often fail to discuss the cost of replacing Dak.

to replace Dak and have a realistic shot of getting a better QB. You need to draft a QB. Like top 5-10 high.


That means you need to 1. Have a crappy season and get a top pick. Or 2. Trade a boatload of picks to move up and grab a QB.


Then once you do that. Even if you take a QB in the top 5. There’s only about a 20% chance they’re ever better than Dak. And about a 20% chance they’re as good as Dak.

there’s like a 60% chance they’re not as good as Dak or a flat outright bust who sucks in the NFL.

then you spend 2-3 seasons wasted on a crap or mediocre QB. Then you have to go through the draft process all over again and have to use more high picks or have more crappy seasons to draft one. Just to have another 60% chance of them being a bust or mediocre at best.



Fact is: there are no easy decisions here.

 

[Diehardblues]

I would just like a little more recognition from some folks that cutting Dak and moving on also Carrie’s a ton of risks and could put the cowboys in a position where they spend a decade searching for a viable replacement.

And this is why franchises are willing to pay Market Price for their QB. Because it’s sounder Mgmt to find a QB good enough to build around who provides a competitive status for the playoffs . And try to build around it best you can .

The alternative is continuing to spin the wheel in a perpetual rebuilding process in an almost endless effort until you finally land that Elite QB.

 

[Acceptablename]

I still don’t understand why players continue approving player contracts. Average players get bread crumbs after after the big team contracts and there are a lot more average role players then elite.

 

[Diehardblues]

People often fail to discuss the cost of replacing Dak.

to replace Dak and have a realistic shot of getting a better QB. You need to draft a QB. Like top 5-10 high.


That means you need to 1. Have a crappy season and get a top pick. Or 2. Trade a boatload of picks to move up and grab a QB.


Then once you do that. Even if you take a QB in the top 5. There’s only about a 20% chance they’re ever better than Dak. And about a 20% chance they’re as good as Dak.

there’s like a 60% chance they’re not as good as Dak or a flat outright bust who sucks in the NFL.

then you spend 2-3 seasons wasted on a crap or mediocre QB. Then you have to go through the draft process all over again and have to use more high picks or have more crappy seasons to draft one. Just to have another 60% chance of them being a bust or mediocre at best.



Fact is: there are no easy decisions here.

All true but I’d argue the decision is easier than your alternative and why most teams pony up for theses Market Price deals for their Franchise QB’s.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

That’s the norm of the NFL paying Market Prices to secure a Franchise QB.

Did we trade for a franchise QB?
Hmmmmm......cause the one we got now got franchise cash with 1 playoff win to show.....

 

[CowboyRoy]

With Dak barely still in the top 10 salaries now with only Wilson and Cousins at 35 million below him because they’re contracts are nearing their maturity we can finally put to rest how much Dak is being over paid.

And if Jethro had resigned Dak when he initially wanted what Wilson was making at 35 million we’d be in much better shape.

I suspect by the time Jackson, Burrows and Herbert resign their deals Dak won’t even be in top 10-12.

We need to stop calling these QB being paid Elite deals. They are Market Prices.

And we really need to stop looking at yearly average which means very little. Cap hits are what’s important.

Daks cap hit last year was 17 mil and 19 mil this year. Yes, 49 next year and 52 in 2024 but most likely will restructure or resign by then which with signing bonuses always pushes these huge contracts to back end.

Yep, and we all told the sad trolls how this would all work. In only two years Dak is right in line with his value. In another year he will be a bargain. LOL

Poor trolls, they continue to take a complete beating.

 

[HungryLion]

All true but I’d argue the decision is easier than your alternative and why most teams pony up for theses Market Price deals for their Franchise QB’s.

Exactly. There’s a reason NFL Gm’s pay QB’s of Dak’s quality.


Look at some NFL franchises. There are literally some franchises that have spent literal decades looking for a good QB and suffered the entire time while trying to do it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sure is a lot of overpaid mediocrity in that top 9

Maybe you dont understand what mediocre QB play looks like.