Toughest female soccer player... EVER !!

Temo

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Listen, I'm not saying it was ok... in fact I kinda blame the ref for not giving out a red card earlier and getting a hold of the game.

But as far as the punches go, she got elbowed in the ribs FIRST, then punched the other girl in the back (quite clumsily, in fact... didn't even look like it hurt).

It's pretty harsh to take away her scholarship and what not for this.
 

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jksmith269;3069103 said:
you realize she was banned from the team after this game right, they will prob let her return next season but she's screwed now one little infraction on the field and her playing days will be over, and prob her free ride in school...

This is not true. Nothing, as yet, has been decided on this. Perhaps some or all of this may come to pass but nothing, so far as I know, has been decided other then a suspension for games. No set date as yet.
 

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That referee will be reviewed by his peers. If he is allowed to continue calling games at that level, I will be surprised.

As for the girl, she definately went over board. However, there is not a full tape of the game to see what initiated her actions. Perhaps she was retaliating for some hard/dirty plays against her. Even the hairpull and throw to the ground was in retaliation for the opposing player grabber her shorts to gain an advantage. The smacks she layed on the girl while the ball was being played should have resulted in Red Card and her ejection from the match. The other girl that kicked the ball into the face of the attacker should have at the minimum been a Yellow, and more likely should have been a Red Card.
 

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so grabbing her hair and throwing her to the ground, risking serious injury, is OK if someone grabs your shorts?
 

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burmafrd;3069776 said:
so grabbing her hair and throwing her to the ground, risking serious injury, is OK if someone grabs your shorts?
You're kidding, right? Did you read all of my post or just the one sentence where I noted that the hair pull is in retaliation for dirty play by the opposing player? Is there any where in my post where I condoned her behavior? Is there one place where I said it was "OK to throw the ***** to the ground by her pony tail because she grabbed her shorts?"
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3069212 said:
This is not true. Nothing, as yet, has been decided on this. Perhaps some or all of this may come to pass but nothing, so far as I know, has been decided other then a suspension for games. No set date as yet.

yes it has, it was decided last week when she was suspended from the team.

The University of New Mexicosuspended women’s soccer player Elizabeth Lambert indefinitely after her unsportsmanlike conduct in a Nov. 5 match, including pulling an opponent to the ground by her ponytail.

The 20-year-old junior is barred from all team practices and games, the Mountain West Conference school said Nov. 6 in a news release posted on its Web site.

“Liz’s conduct on the field against BYU was completely inappropriate,” Paul Krebs, New Mexico’s vice president for athletics, said in a statement. “There is no way to defend her actions.”

The school’s decision to ban Lambert was endorsed by the Mountain West, which said her actions violated the league’s sportsmanship policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTufvGJNp0&feature=related
 

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she's a *****cat compared to these guys
[youtube]EOFcQLUcx6k&feature=related[/youtube]
 

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jksmith269;3069820 said:
yes it has, it was decided last week when she was suspended from the team.

No, it has not. I live in Albuquerque and I can tell you with no uncertainty that this young ladies future has not been settled as yet. The UNM/BYU game took place in the MWC Tournament so because BYU won, the season is over for Lambert. Their is an internal investigation going on now as to who is responsible for this style of play. Kit Vela is the head coach for Woman's Soccer at UNM. Some are saying that Vela told Lambert to rough up the BYU players and that Vela used Lambert in an inforcer role deliberately. If this is the case, then it's hard to lay all blame on Lambert. This is not a bad girl. Lambert is an All MWC academic 1st team as a Soph. and a possible academic all american. Lambert is not done as yet and will not be done until this investigation is completed. It may well be that Lambert is back next season. It may also be that Vela is not. How this plays out remains to be seen.
 

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daschoo;3070007 said:
she's a *****cat compared to these guys
[youtube]EOFcQLUcx6k&feature=related[/youtube]
I was a FIFA certified Level 08 ref for 6 years. I've centered games from U4 all the way up to U20. I've seen some horrendous hard fouls, had my life threatened, had to call the police to the fields to clear the parking area, been assaulted by a player and had a coach come on to the field to threaten me. The very worst of the bunch are the girls U19 Classic teams. Those girls play HARD and dirty. Pity the pretty girl that wears her hair where the opposing players can "make use of it". I gave more Red Cards to the girls than I did the boys. The boys only got into it with each other occasionally, it seemed the girls got into it every other game I Centered. The one exception was a U16 Travel game I did. One team scored three times in the first 5 minutes of play. It was all one player doing the scoring...he didn't last long. The opposing defender didn't wait for him to juke him out of his socks on the fourth trip to the box. As soon as the guy was within range, he kicked him in the leg, taking him down, then stomped his leg when he hit the ground. I Red carded 5 players from each team for the fight that broke out and called the game. That was the game that the police had to come to clear the parking area.
 

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i only ever played in one really dirty game as i last played competitively at 16. the game got called off after around 20 minutes as the previous time we played this team one of their players had been outstanding and took us to bits, this time he did a bit of showboating and one of our players went in with a two footed lunge that caught him on the side of the knee. after the brawl died down the game was abandoned and the guy who wasn't able to get up ended up getting taken away in an ambulance.
that was not a fun experiance.
 

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rackat from the moment you said one action is in retaliation for another action you are equalizing the two actions. So maybe you ought to think a little more before you post. Maybe all the time you have in the game has desensetized you to things. There is no justification or anything else that can be said for that action. Your claim it was in retaliation does justify the act to some extent.
 

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burmafrd;3071042 said:
rackat from the moment you said one action is in retaliation for another action you are equalizing the two actions. So maybe you ought to think a little more before you post. Maybe all the time you have in the game has desensetized you to things. There is no justification or anything else that can be said for that action. Your claim it was in retaliation does justify the act to some extent.
Jeeze, man. Really? Because I said it was in retaliation that is equivalent to saying the actions are equal? I knew you were out there, I just didn't know how far. You are really reaching if you think I was in any way justifying what that girl did in any of the circumstances shown in the video. I would try to explain it further, but if you read my post prior to this one explaining my experience as a FIFA Certified referee, there will be no need to explain. If you just want to troll a bit find something else to troll about. Something you may actually know about.
 

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I think this article offers good perspective: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/sports/soccer/11violence.html?ref=sports&pagewanted=all

Bruce Arena, the coach of the Los Angeles Galaxy and the former coach of the United States men’s national team, said in an interview Sunday: “Let’s be fair, there have been worse incidents in games than that. I think we are somewhat sexist in our opinion of sport. I think maybe people are alarmed to see a woman do that, but men do a hell of a lot worse things. Was it good behavior? No, but because it’s coming from a woman, they made it a headline.”
 

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Temo;3071686 said:
I think this article offers good perspective: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/sports/soccer/11violence.html?ref=sports&pagewanted=all

Bruce Arena, the coach of the Los Angeles Galaxy and the former coach of the United States men’s national team, said in an interview Sunday: “Let’s be fair, there have been worse incidents in games than that. I think we are somewhat sexist in our opinion of sport. I think maybe people are alarmed to see a woman do that, but men do a hell of a lot worse things. Was it good behavior? No, but because it’s coming from a woman, they made it a headline.”

it happens in European leagues for sure

but does it happen in the NCAA collegiate ranks?

btw, Euro leagues play for money, NCAA is just that, student athletes, that steps way beyond the gender "bias"
 

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puffing yourself aboutt FIFA- WHO CARES? Rackat, like I said you were probably desensitized years ago. and yes when you say something was done in retaliation it is equalizing. Sorry you cannot figure that out but I am not surprised.
 

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burmafrd;3072499 said:
puffing yourself aboutt FIFA- WHO CARES? Rackat, like I said you were probably desensitized years ago. and yes when you say something was done in retaliation it is equalizing. Sorry you cannot figure that out but I am not surprised.
LMAO! Now I know how some of the opposing posters used to feel trying to argue with a brick wall of ignorance that you post. 'puffing' my qualifications as a referee, certified by the world organization that oversees the game, was stated in the context of what I had done as a referee and what I would have done in that scenario. Because you cannot speak intelligently about the subject, I will leave you to you opinion. So, you believe what you want and I'll know that stating it may have been done in retaliation does not make the actions equivalent nor justifiable.
 

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burmafrd;3069776 said:
so grabbing her hair and throwing her to the ground, risking serious injury, is OK if someone grabs your shorts?

I love the hair throw use it all the time in my martial arts training it performs a good Kokyu Nage then again it helps if you know how to fall with out hurting yourself
 
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