CFZ Trade Deadline Question for serious contenders

[Bobhaze]

As much as I dislike the inactivity of the FO, especially in Free Agency, I want to be a bit fair here.

Pretty much every player that was targeted as players that could help the Cowboys, Johnson, Henry, Jeudy, Sutton....weren't traded at all, and by that it could be assumed they weren't for sale.

Outside of the Vikes Cleveland I'm not sure who the Cowboys should've been in on that was actually available.

Youre right about that. But look at the teams who somehow found a way to add something to their team. Look, it doesn’t have to be star players. Even backups can strengthen the roster. You don’t have to make a “blockbuster” trade to make your roster better.

 

[Diehardblues]

By the Cowboys not making any moves they are just confirming what many fans have long suspected.

The Jones family is only concerned about making money each year, not winning a Super Bowl.

As long as they get a team that makes the playoffs or at least remains in the hunt until the last week, they are content to let it play out to avoid putting the team at risk of having a bad season in the future.

Winning a Super Bowl is a bonus, not the objective.

The objective is higher valuations year over year and consistent revenue streams, and they excel at that.

Right…

Basically remaining relevant and interesting is easier for Jethro to hype and promote limiting pressure on him having to make changes at the top or himself stepping aside.

He wants to win but only his way meaning as long as he can maintain his grip on football operations and face of the franchise.

Hitting rock bottom or having to start over and total rebuilds puts too much pressure to make changes.

He tried letting someone else run football operations and winning championships but that wasn’t enough fun for him. Plus they received all or most of the credit and became face of his franchise .

This is main reason Jethro bought a NFL franchise as he had always dreamed since his days at Arkansas of becoming a celebrity football guy. All he needed was a Fix in guaranteeing a revenue stream which wouldn't force him to step away regardless the results.

It’s actually been a brilliant maneuver manipulating the league with his revolutionary revenue streams for his own selfish and egotistical ambitions and passions.

 

[CowboysDrew]

Youre right about that. But look at the teams who somehow found a way to add something to their team. Look, it doesn’t have to be star players. Even backups can strengthen the roster. You don’t have to make a “blockbuster” trade to make your roster better.

That's why I'm disappointed about Cleveland. That one should've been on the Cowboys radar. I haven't seen the picks given for him but it might be that Dallas already traded the capital necessary to acquire him in the off season.

 

[Reality]

Youre right about that. But look at the teams who somehow found a way to add something to their team. Look, it doesn’t have to be star players. Even backups can strengthen the roster. You don’t have to make a “blockbuster” trade to make your roster better.

That's what bothers me. It's not missing out on star players, it's that they didn't try to improve the team at all.

If the Cowboys lose Gilmore or Bland, they are in serious trouble. If they lose Parsons, they are in serious trouble. If they lose Lamb, they are in serious trouble.

The only player you are supposed to say that about is your quarterback, yet the Cowboys cannot afford to lose any of those players as well.

 

[SlammedZero]

It's getting tougher and tougher for me to care or have any passion for this team. I have loved this team and invested my fandom into them since I was a kid, and with each and every passing season, more and more air leaves my sails. It's the SAME exact song and dance every season with no end in sight. I'm tired of being the joke of the NFL. I'm tired of knowing how this chapter ends. They're doing nothing to reel me back in.

I know some posters have their mouse on the quote button of this post to call me a "hater" and to tell me "where the door is", but I'm frustrated. We all should be. The Jones' boys are a joke. Somebody get me a time machine so I can go block Jerry's purchase of this once proud franchise.

 

[DUO_CORE]

They aren't good enough or close so no sense in wasting draft capitol. We need OL, a menacing DT, a POWER RB, and a LB. There's another very important position that needs upgrading but I'll refrain since my drool rag is in the laundry.

 

[ATXSRT]

At the end of the day this is a business. Jerry does just enough every year to give us hope and keep us addicted to watching the Cowboys. If he gambled everything away for 1 year, we'd be garbage for the next 3 years and that's not good for ratings etc...

 

[Kwyn]

If you have a good team this year and feel you have a legitimate shot to contend for a Super Bowl this year, here’s the question I‘m asking:
”WHO CARES ABOUT NEXT YEAR?” Why don’t we care a lot more about winning a championship right NOW? The teams winning SBs and conference championships seem to be a lot more concerned about NOW than next year.

I am past being tired of hearing our owner/GM talk about how important it is to him that his team be “relevant” every year. Or worried about salary cap implications while other GMs are making moves to strengthen their teams. Wouldn’t it be worth it at some point to push more chips in to the middle of the table if you really believed you had a team that was close?

The two talking heads of this front office are constantly talking about this roster being close or good enough to win it all. If that’s the case, who cares about next year?

I was hoping we would find a nice piece for our 3rd. Only a few players went for a 3rd and I’m not sure we could have landed those deals anyway.

Not having anything in the 4th to 6th, which we already traded for players Lance, Cooks and Gilmore, made doing more at the deadline really tough.

Just curious Bob, would you have done, say, Sweat or Young? Would the commanders even consider trading them to the hated Cowboys for the same price they got from the Bears and Niners?

Would you have done Douglas for a third?

I wouldn’t have minded Ezra Cleveland but he went for a sixth which we don’t have. He has been decent and would give us some OLine depth but I’m not sure he’d be a game changer. Definitely worth a 6th though.

Leonard Williams for a 2nd and a 5th (which we don’t have)? Would the Giants even trade with us?

We couldn’t even have done Byard because we didn’t have the picks.

I’d like to have been more aggressive but I’m not sure we had the bulllets in the gun and teams don’t tend to get excited about far distant picks, like 2025.

Not to mention that several of those trades were for players looking for monster contracts this off season which either has significant impact on future cap or makes them a half-season rental.

 

[Diehardblues]

Agree. If you look at the moves the best GMs make every year, they are more concerned about this year than the next.

I come back to this question every year with the Jones FO: Would you trade a Lombardi (or even an NFC championship) for 5 losing seasons? I would do that in a heartbeat. Winning a championship is what it’s all about. Losing seasons are forgettable. Championships are forever.

That’s the train of thought with GM and VP with jobs on the line for success.

And there was a time when winning championships did create more revenue. But all of the fail safe revenue streams that our illustrious owner has implemented has benefitted all franchises .

The NFL is only professional league where all teams now are profitable. Or in the black.

Jethro took what Tex told him to heart and maneuvered a brilliant way around it.

Tex told Jethro that in order to maintain the revenue juggernaut continued success on the field was imperative. Once Jethro had the success on the field he got to work implementing new revenue streams with Fox TV deal, Salary Cap limiting players wages , then suing the league for stadium sponsorship.

Once the new stadium was built the Fix was in. PSL meant season ticket holders couldn’t walk away like we did in mid 80’s under Bum . And the stadium sponsorship revenue isn’t shared with players . Then in 2009 Jethro even lobbied to have the Blackout Rule changed to 24 hours instead of 72 hours and most importantly teams would be allowed to purchase remaining tickets and broker them out meaning no more threats for local blackouts.

These key changes had prevented the Apathy of fans to impact financially as it did in the mid to late 80’s when fans stayed away from attendance which left many games locally blacked out and why the Cowboys were in the Red by end of 80’s.

 

[Kwyn]

That's why I'm disappointed about Cleveland. That one should've been on the Cowboys radar. I haven't seen the picks given for him but it might be that Dallas already traded the capital necessary to acquire him in the off season.

You would be correct. Maybe they would have taken both of our 7ths but he went for a 6th, which we don’t have.

 

[coult44]

I don’t recall Burrow or Mahomes or Allen being available, maybe I missed that?!

Every single one of the teams who get to and win the superbowl the last several years have made big moves!!!

 

[Tabascocat]

If Dallas had a real GM who has to produce to keep his job, moves would have been made today. A CB, OL and RB1 puts this team up a notch to really contend.

 

[Praxit]

By the Cowboys not making any moves they are just confirming what many fans have long suspected.

The Jones family is only concerned about making money each year, not winning a Super Bowl.

As long as they get a team that makes the playoffs or at least remains in the hunt until the last week, they are content to let it play out to avoid putting the team at risk of having a bad season in the future.

Winning a Super Bowl is a bonus, not the objective.

The objective is higher valuations year over year and consistent revenue streams, and they excel at that.

....a guy on NFL media segment. Said he talked to Stephen recently. Steph told him, if a move would guarantee a super bowl. They would do it, no questions ask.

But since, nothing is guaranteed. They like to keep things in perspective.

So I think, The Jones's are hyper-vigilant how they handle matters with trades n such. They want to win it all, just not easy to depict the outcomes.

 

[Kwyn]

Every single one of the teams who get to and win the superbowl the last several years have made big moves!!!

Take a look at the trades that went down, look at what we had available to trade, and let us know what you would have done.

I wanted Henry and I would have traded a third for him. He wasn’t traded and I’m not sure the Titans ever seriously considered moving him.

Beyond that, I didn’t see a trade we could have jumped on and beaten out what was actually offered for players who were traded.

 

[Diehardblues]

That's what bothers me. It's not missing out on star players, it's that they didn't try to improve the team at all.

If the Cowboys lose Gilmore or Bland, they are in serious trouble. If they lose Parsons, they are in serious trouble. If they lose Lamb, they are in serious trouble.

The only player you are supposed to say that about is your quarterback, yet the Cowboys cannot afford to lose any of those players as well.

Yep but if we lose one of those key players then they are perfect scapegoats for our ownership.

Most front offices would be concerned that key injuries which cause a failed season could result in changes at the top . And why they must plan for worse case scenarios.

Not Jethro &Son. Worse case scenarios provide them an easy out. Pitiful . Lol

 

[Kwyn]

If Dallas had a real GM who has to produce to keep his job, moves would have been made today. A CB, OL and RB1 puts this team up a notch to really contend.

So, Rasul Douglas at CB was the only trade that went down that involved a good player at those positions. He went for a third.

 

[Reality]

....a guy on NFL media segment. Said he talked to Stephen recently. Steph told him, if a move would guarantee a super bowl. They would do it, no questions ask.

But since, nothing is guaranteed. They like to keep things in perspective.

So I think, The Jones's are hyper-vigilant how they handle matters with trades n such. They want to win it all, just not easy to depict the outcomes.

The problem is there is no player out there that could guarantee a Super Bowl.

The Cowboys could get Mahomes or Henry or any player and it would not guarantee them a Super Bowl because no one player can do that.

It's an easy cop-out to say that because there is no way to prove or disprove it.

 

[phildadon86]

....a guy on NFL media segment. Said he talked to Stephen recently. Steph told him, if a move would guarantee a super bowl. They would do it, no questions ask.

But since, nothing is guaranteed. They like to keep things in perspective.

So I think, The Jones's are hyper-vigilant how they handle matters with trades n such. They want to win it all, just not easy to depict the outcomes.

Trading for Henry shows the fan base you want to win it all.

Saying you want to win it all and being on a radio show the morning of trade deadline instead of working the phones, shows you care about nothing but printing money and remaining relevant.

 

[Tabascocat]

So, Rasul Douglas at CB was the only trade that went down that involved a good player at those positions. He went for a third.

Johnson was on the trade block too.

 

[phildadon86]

The problem is there is no player out there that could guarantee a Super Bowl.

The Cowboys could get Mahomes or Henry or any player and it would not guarantee them a Super Bowl because no one player can do that.

It's an easy cop-out to say that because there is no way to prove or disprove it.

It may be. But it shows the fan base you care.