Trade Romo while he has value

[Doomsdayblitz]

Romo has played almost heroically this season. Anyone who believes he's the problem doesn't know football. He's been given a bottom dwelling offensive line, moronic wide receivers, and still has kept us in most games. "Hit me in the head with a hammer the next time I bring in a stupid player"..Jimmy Johnson. Romo has two knuckle heads to deal with in Dez Bryant & Kevin Ogletree. There's a reason why they dropped in their drafts.

Bryant is so talented, it's worth the investment to keep SLOWLY bringing him along, but he still makes rookie mistakes. I can't believe, with Dwayne Harris available, Garrett still plays Ogletree. He made several dumb mistakes yesterday that had Romo fuming.

Also, our beat up defense gave up over 275 rushing yards. Not much Romo can do about that.

 

[TwentyOne]

If Romo was 6 years younger you might get a deal like Denver got for Jay Cutler. The reality is that no team in it's right mind is going to fork over muliple first round picks for a soon to be 33 year old QB. I still maintain that the benchmark for a Romo deal would be similar to the Favre or McNabb trades.

Craig

Its hard to argue with people whose arguments are...

never
always
reality is ...

They pretend to know everything. So why even post something ? Makes no sense to me.

So just let us know how the future will unfold and we all will listen silently.

 

[Wood]

I think Romo value is only 3rd round pick..and I am being serious.

 

[TwentyOne]

I think Romo value is only 3rd round pick..and I am being serious.

based on what ?

 

[Wood]

based on what ?

based on fact that he can't get out of elimination games.

 

[TwentyOne]

based on fact that he can't get out of elimination games.

That too much of a downgrade for an otherwise great QB. I think his value is much higher.

But if his value will be a third rounder then his new contract should not be as high as everybody here expects. As a third rounder he would get around 2-3 mills per year. Would be a great deal for us. I could live with that and of course would not trade him.

See, my point is we are in a win-win situation with Romo. If we get the value for him i expect us to get then we are fine. If not we get a bargain deal and are fine also. We could invest the Money elsewhere and be more competitive in FA.

 

[craig71]

Its hard to argue with people whose arguments are...

never
always
reality is ...

They pretend to know everything. So why even post something ? Makes no sense to me.

So just let us know how the future will unfold and we all will listen silently.

I don't pretend to know everything and I don't know what the future holds. I also think that there are two sides to that fence that you're leaning on. If you want to believe that Romo will command multiple first round picks; so be it. I just think that it is more realistic to base his value along the lines of the Favre or McNabb deals at this point in time.


Craig

 

[Wood]

That too much of a downgrade for an otherwise great QB. I think his value is much higher.

But if his value will be a third rounder then his new contract should not be as high as everybody here expects. As a third rounder he would get around 2-3 mills per year. Would be a great deal for us. I could live with that and of course would not trade him.

See, my point is we are in a win-win situation with Romo. If we get the value for him i expect us to get then we are fine. If not we get a bargain deal and are fine also. We could invest the Money elsewhere and be more competitive in FA.

you never get as much value back as you THINK you should get. Mostly because your a fan and you have an emotional attachment to Romo. But people outside of Dallas don't see him the same way you see him. They see him as nothing more than good fantasy football player who fails miserable in elimination games. I would go as far to say the team that trades for Romo...the fan base wouldn't be entirely happy.

 

[Doomsday]

Lets say all you could get is a 2nd. Would you take a 2nd for Romo?

 

[cajuncocoa]

For the Romo haters:

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[respectdatstar]

Would you take a 2nd for Romo?

At this point, I would. I don't understand the argument that we are going to get a Herschel Walker/Ricky Williams type return.

 

[Roadtrip635]

And do what with Locker in Tennessee? I agree, it would be a nice setup for him, I just don't see getting the high pick(s) some seem to think we would get. Especially when the above mentioned teams make up nearly half of the top 10 picks in the next draft.

That's kinda why I said playing the what-if game. And yeah, they make up almost half of the top 10 picks, because they don't have a quality QB. Even with the recent success of some rookie QB's it still a very hit and miss position, especially this year's draft that doesn't have those clear cut franchise changing QB's. If a QB of Romo's quality were available, there would be several teams thinking about a possible trade. I listed those teams because it would give them instant improvement and probably playoff contenders.

I think the Titans and Jags are the most intriguing scenarios. The Texans and Colts (thanks to Luck) will be the powers in the AFC South and Romo would give either the ability to compete with them immediately. Locker is still on a rookie deal, so no big money there, but is he going to get you past the Texans or Luck? It would give them some time to develop Locker. The Jags could be instant playoff contenders with someone like Romo and that would leave the Locker led Titans at the bottom of the division for the next few years.

I don't think Romo is going anywhere, but looking at possible scenarios those make the most sense.

 

[respectdatstar]

That's kinda why I said playing the what-if game. And yeah, they make up almost half of the top 10 picks, because they don't have a quality QB. Even with the recent success of some rookie QB's it still a very hit and miss position, especially this year's draft that doesn't have those clear cut franchise changing QB's. If a QB of Romo's quality were available, there would be several teams thinking about a possible trade. I listed those teams because it would give them instant improvement and probably playoff contenders.

I think the Titans and Jags are the most intriguing scenarios. The Texans and Colts (thanks to Luck) will be the powers in the AFC South and Romo would give either the ability to compete with them immediately. Locker is still on a rookie deal, so no big money there, but is he going to get you past the Texans or Luck? It would give them some time to develop Locker. The Jags could be instant playoff contenders with someone like Romo and that would leave the Locker led Titans at the bottom of the division for the next few years.

I don't think Romo is going anywhere, but looking at possible scenarios those make the most sense.

Gotcha. You're right. What do you see these 2 teams willing to give us for him, then?

 

[vaturkey]

Trade him? For WHAT precisely? He is due something like 16 million next year. You aren't getting squat back for him. Whoever signs him has to do what we do if we keep him - extend the contract to get that cap number to something realistic.

Please note earlier post::

Some team will do a trade/negotiate a new cap friendly salary for him.

 

[TwentyOne]

Would you take a 2nd for Romo?

No. I would trade him for no less then minimal a high first rounder (around pick 7) and another high 2nd (around 40).

And i think that makes sense for us and a team that likes to trade for him. I try to eyplain it:

Romo still has 3-4 good years of play. Lets make it opportunistic and say he plays 4 more years on a level he played the last 2 years.

When you draft a QB and he pans out he will at least need 2 years before he is able to play on Romos level (no risks considered).

After that this QB will have more or less 8 years of great play before you will consider trading him because he is in the last phase of his career. To explain it. A good QB comes to the leage around 22-23 years old. After ten years of play he is 32-33 - like Romo is now.

So knowing that i think its just simple math and considering the risks you are willing to take.

Romo: 4 years of great QB play
drafted QB: 8 years of great play

If you draft a QB very high it will cost you around - lets make it simple - the no 1 pick in the draft. Thats 3000 draft value points.

I am asking for a pick around 1500 points. Thats half of the value (like hafl of the years you get out of the qb). Plus a 2nd pick that is considered 500 point. See it as a rsik compensation the other team has to pay for not goind thru the pain of growing a drafted QB.

We will get picks in the range of 2000 draft value points. With our pick at 18 we have a bundle that alows us to trade up to the 2nd spot in the draft. So we will get every player we want to get.

To me its sounds like a reasonable trade for both teams and is at least worth a consideration.

 

[vaturkey]

I think Romo value is only 3rd round pick..and I am being serious.

He throws for 4900 yards and you think he's only worth a third round pick? You must be a troll!

 

[vaturkey]

No. I would trade him for no less then minimal a high first rounder (around pick 7) and another high 2nd (around 40).

And i think that makes sense for us and a team that likes to trade for him. I try to eyplain it:

Romo still has 3-4 good years of play. Lets make it opportunistic and say he plays 4 more years on a level he played the last 2 years.

When you draft a QB and he pans out he will at least need 2 years before he is able to play on Romos level (no risks considered).

After that this QB will have more or less 8 years of great play before you will consider trading him because he is in the last phase of his career. To explain it. A good QB comes to the leage around 22-23 years old. After ten years of play he is 32-33 - like Romo is now.

So knowing that i think its just simple math and considering the risks you are willing to take.

Romo: 4 years of great QB play
drafted QB: 8 years of great play

If you draft a QB very high it will cost you around - lets make it simple - the no 1 pick in the draft. Thats 3000 draft value points.

I am asking for a pick around 1500 points. Thats half of the value (like hafl of the years you get out of the qb). Plus a 2nd pick that is considered 500 point. See it as a rsik compensation the other team has to pay for not goind thru the pain of growing a drafted QB.

We will get picks in the range of 2000 draft value points. With our pick at 18 we have a bundle that alows us to trade up to the 2nd spot in the draft. So we will get every player we want to get.

To me its sounds like a reasonable trade for both teams and is at least worth a consideration.

BING BING BING. We have a winner.

 

[Wood]

He throws for 4900 yards and you think he's only worth a third round pick? You must be a troll!

GMs don't care about fantasy stats like you do. They want QBs who can lead them into post season. Its painfully clear Romo is not that type of leader. A team that trades for him is only doing so because he would put seats in chair (and circus that follows) fully knowing how it will end. The price for that entertainment is 3rd rounder. Maybe 2nd if two teams entered bidding war.

 

[ragman]

For the record, Tony is due $16.8 million.

For those who want to get rid of Tony, who's out there? Sanchez? Gabbert? Smith? I don't like any of those choices.

Trade Tony, promote Orton, draft a rookie QB, and hope you hit it big with him? I don't like that either. I don't like this year's class of QBs as much as last year's. Orton isn't the answer either.

Without Romo, what would have been the Cowboys W-L record before last night's game? 1-6? Then, last night's game doesn't mean a thing.

Let's face it. With Tony Romo, you have to take the good along with the bad. That's just the way it is.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Gotcha. You're right. What do you see these 2 teams willing to give us for him, then?

It's hard to say. If both teams showed an interest, it would help drive up the price. I could see a 1st and 2nd or 3rd rd picks from it. Possibly a 1st this year and 2nd rd next year. More likely a 2nd rd pick this year and 1st rd pick next year. At worst I would take a 2nd rd this year, 2nd rd conditional next year, if they go to playoffs or have 9+ win season then it becomes a 1st rd pick. If we had to lose Tony, I think most fans would be happy with this.