Trade Romo while he has value

[Clove]

He doesn't need to resign. He should go to SF for his own benefit. I'm sure Harbaugh would love to have him.

Why would San Fran get him when they have a clutch QB already? As a matter of fact, they have two.

 

[Clove]

Its hard to argue with people whose arguments are...

never
always
reality is ...

They pretend to know everything. So why even post something ? Makes no sense to me.

So just let us know how the future will unfold and we all will listen silently.

It's based on FACT. Does that word mean anything to you? And it's also based on historical fact too. For example:

Texas is known to have tornado's every year. So guess what's going to happen in march in Texas? Here's another one. It's known to rain in Seattle, so in the next two weeks, what's going to happen in Seattle?

Romo is known to choke, so I predicted in the prediction thread that he would CHOKE, and his fans would say it's a team sport. You see, so predictable.

 

[vaturkey]

GMs don't care about fantasy stats like you do. They want QBs who can lead them into post season. Its painfully clear Romo is not that type of leader. A team that trades for him is only doing so because he would put seats in chair (and circus that follows) fully knowing how it will end. The price for that entertainment is 3rd rounder. Maybe 2nd if two teams entered bidding war.

I don't play fantasy football and never will. I ONLY care about playoff wins and making this team better. Once again no reflection on Tony because I think he is a standup guy and I remember the QC era quite well (I was in San Antonio and saw Romo as a Rookie at TC). What I'm trying to do is come up with a way to make this team better. RGIII is going to be kicking our butts for years unless we figure out some way to get a LOT better. Do we want to be playing for second place (or third) place in our Division for years? I think not.

If you have a better plan I'm all ears?

 

[TwentyOne]

For the record, Tony is due $16.8 million.

For those who want to get rid of Tony, who's out there? Sanchez? Gabbert? Smith? I don't like any of those choices.

Trade Tony, promote Orton, draft a rookie QB, and hope you hit it big with him? I don't like that either. I don't like this year's class of QBs as much as last year's. Orton isn't the answer either.

Without Romo, what would have been the Cowboys W-L record before last night's game? 1-6? Then, last night's game doesn't mean a thing.

Let's face it. With Tony Romo, you have to take the good along with the bad. That's just the way it is.

If you stay with Romo you have to think that the future with him will look like the past. We all have enough experience to make a good picture out of what we will get with him.

After that its just the question: Is this enough for you/us or do we want something else. If you want something else you have to make decissions. And with changing things there is always risk involved.

As i posted before i think trading Romo now is the best thing the franchise can do considering him as a player. The decission to play Romo till the end of his career and get nothing form him after that or to part ways with him now and get value for him has to be made this offseaosn.

And think about this: After all you have to find Romos successor. Regardless wether you give him a new deal or trade him now.

To the feeling with Romo is that with him i wont get to the point wher i want to be with that franchise. Of course i could hope for the better but that would be naive considering the last 7 years with him at QB. Seeing that i would take the risk and start Orton and draft a QB this or the next year.

 

[Clove]

Another poster, I forget his name, predicted this outcome three weeks ago. That guy is not Nostradamus, he's been paying attention over the years.

 

[HappyOnions]

Haha so people just automatically assume that Harbaugh would dump Kaepernick for Romo? Yeah they'd totally dump their up and coming stud QB for an aging, inconsistent, gunslinger...

 

[juck]

Just draft a QB. We can get at least a 2nd for Bumo.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Why would San Fran get him when they have a clutch QB already? As a matter of fact, they have two.

Yeah right. They have a team with a defense and a coach. Get lost hater.

 

[Wood]

I don't play fantasy football and never will. I ONLY care about playoff wins and making this team better. Once again no reflection on Tony because I think he is a standup guy and I remember the QC era quite well (I was in San Antonio and saw Romo as a Rookie at TC). What I'm trying to do is come up with a way to make this team better. RGIII is going to be kicking our butts for years unless we figure out some way to get a LOT better. Do we want to be playing for second place (or third) place in our Division for years? I think not.

If you have a better plan I'm all ears?

I have two plans:

1) let Romo play out his final year and upgrade OL. Hire OC (not named Gailey or Norv). Draft interior players for OL & DL for first 5 rounds. Make one more run at post-season.

2) Trade Romo. Let Orton run the team for '13. Go into this draft and go after Barkley or sit tight and wait until next year draft. Release Jay Ratliff (take cap hit this year). Be positioned in '14 to make major moves in FA and draft.

 

[lostar2009]

There are some nice prospects in this year draft... get a smart guy that can make all the throws, and is a game manager..Look at Russel Wilson and Foles.. those guys played good base on their situations.. heck even Kirk Cousins played a good one once he had some NFL experience and coaching under his belt..

Also to the guys that always go back to ryan leafs we had on this team and the poor qbs era.. LOOK NO MORE AT JJ !! The guy was trying too hard to recycle garbage qbs. Heck if you guys even follow Broaddus he told the story how JJ wanted to draft Quincy Carter despite his scouts telling him not too !!!!

The reality and truth is this team NEVER put in quality draft resources in qbs except for Troy Aikman !!! Besides him we drafted Quincy Carter in the 2nd round in 2001. Other than that we pick through trash !!!! Other teams like New England, Greenbay, Seattle, Eagles always draft qbs regardless who is the their starter, tell me why is it JJ always say we draft for any position except for QB every year?.. But anyways drafting qbs was something Landry was good at too. Landry stay with a stable of qbs.

Heck Parcells even had some success with Bledsole a 9-7 record even though this guy was at his end years and was eventually replace.. But if JJ and Parcells wasnt so stubborn we should have drafted Aron Rodgers in 2005 beside Marcus Spears. We needed a QB then without knowing Tony Romo was starter quality.

In conclusion Romo did what he did he sold tickets, jerseys and gave fans some hope. In the end THIS GUY DID NOT BUILD THE DALLAS COWBOYS like Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach but merely play here for some years.. We owe this guy nothing and he has done all that he could do for this team at his talent level. May we just move on from this guy and proceed to the next chapter.

 

[Wood]

There are some nice prospects in this year draft... get a smart guy that can make all the throws, and is a game manager..Look at Russel Wilson and Foles.. those guys played good base on their situations.. heck even Kirk Cousins played a good one once he had some NFL experience and coaching under his belt..

Also to the guys that always go back to ryan leafs we had on this team and the poor qbs era.. LOOK NO MORE AT JJ !! The guy was trying too hard to recycle garbage qbs. Heck if you guys even follow Broaddus he told the story how JJ wanted to draft Quincy Carter despite his scouts telling him not too !!!!

The reality and truth is this team NEVER put in quality draft resources in qbs except for Troy Aikman !!! Besides him we drafted Quincy Carter in the 2nd round in 2001. Other than that we pick through trash !!!! Other teams like New England, Greenbay, Seattle, Eagles always draft qbs regardless who is the their starter, tell me why is it JJ always say we draft for any position except for QB every year?.. But anyways drafting qbs was something Landry was good at too. Landry stay with a stable of qbs.

Heck Parcells even had some success with Bledsole a 9-7 record even though this guy was at his end years and was eventually replace.. But if JJ and Parcells wasnt so stubborn we should have drafted Aron Rodgers in 2005 beside Marcus Spears. We needed a QB then without knowing Tony Romo was starter quality.

In conclusion Romo did what he did he sold tickets, jerseys and gave fans some hope. In the end THIS GUY DID NOT BUILD THE DALLAS COWBOYS like Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach but merely play here for some years.. We owe this guy nothing and he has done all that he could do for this team at his talent level. May we just move on from this guy and proceed to the next chapter.

thank you lostar...some good insight there. Board needs that at moment.

 

[Leadbelly]

No. I would trade him for no less then minimal a high first rounder (around pick 7) and another high 2nd (around 40).

And i think that makes sense for us and a team that likes to trade for him. I try to eyplain it:

Romo still has 3-4 good years of play. Lets make it opportunistic and say he plays 4 more years on a level he played the last 2 years.

When you draft a QB and he pans out he will at least need 2 years before he is able to play on Romos level (no risks considered).

After that this QB will have more or less 8 years of great play before you will consider trading him because he is in the last phase of his career. To explain it. A good QB comes to the leage around 22-23 years old. After ten years of play he is 32-33 - like Romo is now.

So knowing that i think its just simple math and considering the risks you are willing to take.

Romo: 4 years of great QB play
drafted QB: 8 years of great play

If you draft a QB very high it will cost you around - lets make it simple - the no 1 pick in the draft. Thats 3000 draft value points.

I am asking for a pick around 1500 points. Thats half of the value (like hafl of the years you get out of the qb). Plus a 2nd pick that is considered 500 point. See it as a rsik compensation the other team has to pay for not goind thru the pain of growing a drafted QB.

We will get picks in the range of 2000 draft value points. With our pick at 18 we have a bundle that alows us to trade up to the 2nd spot in the draft. So we will get every player we want to get.

To me its sounds like a reasonable trade for both teams and is at least worth a consideration.

This is where it starts for me as well. Logical attempt at assessing a fair value. I wouldn't be shopping Romo, and I doubt it's even a consideration, but I wouldn't renegotiate before the draft and see who calls.

If Arizona or the Jets came with a compelling offer that includes their 1st (#7 or #9 respectively), I'd be listening. If Baltimore felt they were 1 player away and offered a Herschel Walker-level draft pick package, I'm listening.

Personally, just seems a lot easier to give him an OL to operate behind and the running game that would likely come with it.

 

[RGIII]

Move him to someone who is ready to win except for having a NFL starting QB.

Prime candidate is Arizona. Give them Romo and assuming their O-line gets healthy and with their offensive weapons and their defense they are playoff bound.

Other Candidate is Jacksonville who also is a team on the upswing with a decent defense in place and a decent O-line and a real good running back. What they lack is a QB. Forget Tebo and selling tickets. Think playoffs and they aren't that far away.

Anyway, we let Kyle Orton have the reins to the Cowboys horse for next year and bring in a developmental QB. Then we draft some lineman and get rid of some deadwood that's really driftwood at this point.

Romo has to be worth a number 1 and probably a number 3 and a 4. Jimmy had the nads to do it with Herschel Walker so its time. Romo is a pretty beat up 32 year old at this point and I have to believe he is trending down at this part of his career.

Thoughts?

I'm not letting my Commanders fandom effect my response to your post. My response is strictly a football opinion, for the record. Tony Romo has been at times one of the best QBs in the league and at other times, the worst nightmare for the Cowboys. He leads a team back playing with broken ribs, but goes out healthy and struggles against teams you should destroy.

He puts up great numbers during the regular season but typically struggles in December and post season (with exception this year, he was on fire until last night). With all that said, he's not getting any younger. He's going to turn 33 next season. And honestly, he is not worth a first round pick imo, much less a first along with a 3rd or 4th.

Most teams are not going to give up that much for an aging QB, not with the success rookie QBs have been having since Flaco and Ryan, Dalton, Luck, Newton (only one not to make the playoffs), RGIII, Wilson.

McNabb was 33 years old when Philly traded him to us and they only got a 2nd rounder and a conditional 3rd/4th round pick the following year. And you can say what you want about McNabb, but he had far more success with less talent, especially in the playoffs. There may be a team that bites and gives up more than they should for Romo, but my guess is it wouldnt be higher than a 2nd round pick.

 

[ghst187]

i think we missed the opportunity. Imagine if we had traded Tony away for a first and signed Peyton Manning....used the extra pick on OL.
Pretty sure this was proposed more than once on this board....

 

[Lodeus]

Just draft a QB. We can get at least a 2nd for Bumo.

Simple as that, huh?

Edit: Oh wait! I forgot. Other teams have done it recently so its guaranteed to work.

 

[lostar2009]

I just get tired of people feeling as if we lose Romo we are nobodies.. but guess what?? We are nobodies now !!! We haven't been out the playoffs in 3 seasons and i cant think of another Qb that is playing in the NFL that has so many botch moments as Romo.

Romo has always come up short when its THE TIME but it is never his "fault", All i ask for Romo to do is not turn the ball over and make smart decisions. I know Romo will not always do a Tom Brady but don't turn the ball over !!!! :bang2:

For all the praise Romo receives he has deserve criticism. For example most would say if it wasn't for him we would not be in contention for a playoff spot. An argument can be made to the fact if Romo didn't leave the league in turnovers the first half of the season we might not be in this situation.

I don't know about you guys but i have stated this on here before and got blasted !! Romo throw a lot of bad balls and players like Dez and Austin make spectacular catches on them. But all you guys see is a catch.. i see more than that i see a lot of under thrown balls by Romo.

Romo may not be the answer but man i just get sick and tired of people saying he is our only hope or we can never find some to replace him in the draft. I see rookie qbs start every year doing the right stuff but play behind some really play olines but still manage.

Every team in our division has beat us in a win or go home game. We are officially the "jump off" in the NFC EAST

 

[Wood]

I'm not letting my Commanders fandom effect my response to your post. My response is strictly a football opinion, for the record. Tony Romo has been at times one of the best QBs in the league and at other times, the worst nightmare for the Cowboys. He leads a team back playing with broken ribs, but goes out healthy and struggles against teams you should destroy.

He puts up great numbers during the regular season but typically struggles in December and post season (with exception this year, he was on fire until last night). With all that said, he's not getting any younger. He's going to turn 33 next season. And honestly, he is not worth a first round pick imo, much less a first along with a 3rd or 4th.

Most teams are not going to give up that much for an aging QB, not with the success rookie QBs have been having since Flaco and Ryan, Dalton, Luck, Newton (only one not to make the playoffs), RGIII, Wilson.

McNabb was 33 years old when Philly traded him to us and they only got a 2nd rounder and a conditional 3rd/4th round pick the following year. And you can say what you want about McNabb, but he had far more success with less talent, especially in the playoffs. There may be a team that bites and gives up more than they should for Romo, but my guess is it wouldnt be higher than a 2nd round pick.

its pains me to agree with skins fan..but I agree that on good day Romo only gets you a 2nd round pick and on bad days its 3rd rounder. Those who think Romo fetches you a 2nd this year and 1st next year are in la la land.

 

[DIAF]

I swear to God some of you are in la-la land. Tony Romo has a trade-unfriendly contract that is about to expire. What POSSIBLE value do you think we can get? We wouldn't get anything hire than a 3rd or a 4th for him.

 

[RGIII]

i think we missed the opportunity. Imagine if we had traded Tony away for a first and signed Peyton Manning....used the extra pick on OL.
Pretty sure this was proposed more than once on this board....

Peyton made it perfectly clear that he would not sign with a team in the NFC because he did not want to directly compete with Eli every year. The Skins tried to get him, so did the 49ers. That would have never happened.

 

[vaturkey]

I have two plans:

1) let Romo play out his final year and upgrade OL. Hire OC (not named Gailey or Norv). Draft interior players for OL & DL for first 5 rounds. Make one more run at post-season.

2) Trade Romo. Let Orton run the team for '13. Go into this draft and go after Barkley or sit tight and wait until next year draft. Release Jay Ratliff (take cap hit this year). Be positioned in '14 to make major moves in FA and draft.

I actually think both of those approaches have merit. I think a lot has to do is what does Romo want to do? I think right now mentally he's probably feeling like low grade dog food.