Travis Frederick at LG?

[21Savage]

I know some people have concerns about moving Frederick to guard but he played there for a whole season-save the couple of games he substituted at center for an injured Konz-and played as good or better than he did at Center.

This is all based on if Costa shows in training camp that he's the same guy that played in the Ravens game last year. Then I think our best option will be to move Frederick to LG, keep Costa at Center, then let Leary and Bernadeau battle for the RG spot.







In a couple of the games is this video he replaced Konz at Center so wasn't lined up at LG.

 

[jobberone]

I know some people have concerns about moving Frederick to guard but he played there for a whole season-save the couple of games he substituted at center for an injured Konz-and played as good or better than he did at Center.

This is all based on if Costa shows in training camp that he's the same guy that played in the Ravens game last year. Then I think our best option will be to move Frederick to LG, keep Costa at Center, then let Leary and Bernadeau battle for the RG spot.

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In a couple of the games is this video he replaced Konz at Center so wasn't lined up at LG.


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I think LT is Smith and RT is Free/Parnell and the rest is up for grabs.

 

[Doomsday101]

If Costa can go out show he is up to the task at center then I have no problem seeing Frederick begin his career at Guard. Main thing get the best 5 on the field, if putting Costa at center and Frederick at G makes the OL a bit more solid then do it.

 

[Tex]

Guys Fredrick is going to start at center. Unless injuries destroy this line. Costa may end up starting at guard but I doubt even that is going to happen without major injury issues. Unless Fred fails totally at center he is the starter at center and will be for years. We need an anchor in the middle of this line. Costa is scrappy and tries hard but he is not the anchor in the middle we need to keep Romo from being killed. Costa was OK in the run game and a matador in the passing game.

I think we will see one new guard possibly. I think that will be Leary. But Fred makes the guards on both sides look better with him at center. Even if both Livings and Bernie are healthy and start again (I sure hope not but....) the line will be much better with Fred at center. We drafted him to play center. Just leave him alone.

Tex

 

[FiveRings]

I don't have concerns about Frederick at guard, I have concerns about Costa at center. I've said it since the draft, if Fred can bunker down the center position, then he makes the two guards next to him better. Plus, I think taking the snapping responsibility away from Costa, as we know it's been his achilles heel, he can be a very good interior lineman. Then the other interior position goes to Bernie or Livings

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

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[DrKennethNoisewater]

No, Frederick should be the starting C from day one. Then you have Leary, Bernadeau, Livings, and Costa vie for the two interior positions. I like that a guy like Frederick can be versatile, but I'd also like to hammer down the center position for the next 10 years...which I think he can.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't see how Frederick benifets us at Center if the guard play is poor. So what you have a center but if you are not putting out yoru best 5 all you have is the same weakness again. Fredrick showed very good play at Guard with wisconsin.
I'm not opposed him at Center in the perfect senerio we fill the gaurd spot with someone who can produce but if Livings and Bernadeau are not cutting it then you ended up not solving anything. Costa in limited play last season looked good at center so I at least see a situation where we can put our 5 best out there and at least have a strong side of the line to run to

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

I don't see how Frederick benifets us at Center if the guard play is poor. So what you have a center but if you are not putting out yoru best 5 all you have is the same weakness again. Fredrick showed very good play at Guard with wisconsin.
I'm not opposed him at Center in the perfect senerio we fill the gaurd spot with someone who can produce but if Livings and Bernadeau are not cutting it then you ended up not solving anything. Costa in limited play last season looked good at center so I at least see a situation where we can put our 5 best out there and at least have a strong side of the line to run to

Costa played well against Baltimore and became some kind of blocking legend. He is a JAG, nothing more. No question we need to upgrade at G, but I am not going to ****** the growth of Frederick so we can shoehorn Costa out there. If he was some kind of uber-talent, sure, but he isn't.

 

[Doomsday101]

Costa played well against Baltimore and became some kind of blocking legend. He is a JAG, nothing more. No question we need to upgrade at G, but I am not going to ****** the growth of Frederick so we can shoehorn Costa out there. If he was some kind of uber-talent, sure, but he isn't.

Never claimed him a legend based off the Balt game, he also played in a handful of other games and did well. As for retardding Frederick growth I don't think that will be the case he has played both and done so very well and can be moved back to center

 

[TheRomoSexual]

No. Sit T. Fred's butt at center and keep him there for a decade.

 

[RS12]

I dont see Frederick at LG, or Costa at C.

 

[21Savage]

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Oh thanks. I was wondering why it came out like that.

 

[21Savage]

Costa played well against Baltimore and became some kind of blocking legend. He is a JAG, nothing more. No question we need to upgrade at G, but I am not going to ****** the growth of Frederick so we can shoehorn Costa out there. If he was some kind of uber-talent, sure, but he isn't.

That's the point. Frederick has been the one shoehorned into a starting position so far if anything. We're saying if Costa continues to display the kind of play he had in that Baltimore game in training camp (and observations by people like Broadus indicate that he is) then do you no put him in the lineup so you can get your best 3 in there?

It's pretty obvious that even if he's improved he won't be the best fit at guard. Are you really willing to take a hit on the other position just to stubbornly keep Frederick at center when based on his college games he can perform equally well at LG

 

[fatboygixxer]

Costa played well against Baltimore and became some kind of blocking legend. He is a JAG, nothing more. No question we need to upgrade at G, but I am not going to ****** the growth of Frederick so we can shoehorn Costa out there. If he was some kind of uber-talent, sure, but he isn't.

Retarding his growth?? He's a rookie, it could be good for him to play guard his fiirst year. Costa has played well in multiple games, including in 2011 when Murray broke the Cowboys rookie rushing record against the Rams.. if Fredrick can't beat Costa out in training camp after getting ALL the reps at center during OTAs/minicamp, how can you possibly justify starting him week one against the Gnats?? Gimmi a break..

 

[Idgit]

We could well end up with Frederick at LG. I think they're going to give him every opportunity to start at C, though. Even if he's not clearly better than--maybe even if he's not quite as good as--Phil Costa early on. If Leary shows well at OG, we'll probably see Frederick stay put.

People are forgetting, though, that Phil Costa is some kind of blocking legend now because he played well in that Baltimore game. If he plays that well in camp, he could put pressure on Livings and Bernardeau/Leary and maybe squeeze Frederick to one side or another. But I think the team, by default, want's the smart rookie making the line calls and sticking with his primary position early on.

I don't care, either way, as long as we've upgraded one of those interior positions. Either guy is a serious upgrade over Cook, and Frederick would probably be a significant upgrade at OG, on either side, by mid-to-late season.

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

Retarding his growth?? He's a rookie, it could be good for him to play guard his fiirst year. Costa has played well in multiple games, including in 2011 when Murray broke the Cowboys rookie rushing record against the Rams.. if Fredrick can't beat Costa out in training camp after getting ALL the reps at center during OTAs/minicamp, how can you possibly justify starting him week one against the Gnats?? Gimmi a break..

It would be good for him to play guard why exactly? It would be good for him to play the position he was drafted to play. He was drafted as the center of the future and should be at the position from day one making the line calls. If Frederick can't beat out Costa, then sure, I would have no problem starting Costa...although if that is the case we really whiffed on the pick. He won't get beat out by Costa though.

 

[Doomsday101]

We could well end up with Frederick at LG. I think they're going to give him every opportunity to start at C, though. Even if he's not clearly better than--maybe even if he's not quite as good as--Phil Costa early on. If Leary shows well at OG, we'll probably see Frederick stay put.

People are forgetting, though, that Phil Costa is some kind of blocking legend now because he played well in that Baltimore game. If he plays that well in camp, he could put pressure on Livings and Bernardeau/Leary and maybe squeeze Frederick to one side or another. But I think the team, by default, want's the smart rookie making the line calls and sticking with his primary position early on.

I don't care, either way, as long as we've upgraded one of those interior positions. Either guy is a serious upgrade over Cook, and Frederick would probably be a significant upgrade at OG, on either side, by mid-to-late season.

Pretty much feel the same. All I want is put the best 5 guys we have out there. If that means Costa at C and Frederick at G then what ever as long as we can put together a solid OL.
Best case someone goes out and plays well at G and Frederick stays at C but right now willing to do anything to get this OL playing well.

 

[Doomsday101]

It would be good for him to play guard why exactly? It would be good for him to play the position he was drafted to play. He was drafted as the center of the future and should be at the position from day one making the line calls. If Frederick can't beat out Costa, then sure, I would have no problem starting Costa...although if that is the case we really whiffed on the pick. He won't get beat out by Costa though.

He was drafted as a C/G and on draft day the Cowboys said they had not determined which one. More than likely it is center but because he has produced very well at both spots it gives Dallas options.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I am not so convinced that LG is a good fit for Fredrick. He is strong with the forward push but he is far from agile in his lateral movement. He does not pull well. I think that LG would be the wrong spot for him but I guess we'll see.