Travis Frederick at LG?

[jterrell]

OG is easier to play than OC.

If Costa outperforms the OG options I'd have no problem playing Frederick at OG for a couple seasons.

Our best OC of the past decade was Gurode and we all know he played plenty of OG as well.

Frederick might struggle with pressure on snaps but the kid has the strength, nasty and weight to block folks. He can play either position.

Give me our best 5 and go from there.
The biggest value to Frederick IMHO is that he can play both OG/OC day 1. That's why is worth pick 31.

 

[burmafrd]

OG is easier to play than OC.

If Costa outperforms the OG options I'd have no problem playing Frederick at OG for a couple seasons.

Our best OC of the past decade was Gurode and we all know he played plenty of OG as well.

Frederick might struggle with pressure on snaps but the kid has the strength, nasty and weight to block folks. He can play either position.

Give me our best 5 and go from there.
The biggest value to Frederick IMHO is that he can play both OG/OC day 1. That's why is worth pick 31.

we need to figure out who should be where and keep them there. Gurode was out of place at guard- he was never very good at that position. But we kept him there trying to fight other fires; and it did not work then. If the Beards best position is center put him there and LEAVE him there

 

[Idgit]

we need to figure out who should be where and keep them there. Gurode was out of place at guard- he was never very good at that position. But we kept him there trying to fight other fires; and it did not work then. If the Beards best position is center put him there and LEAVE him there

I agree, overall. It's a rare circumstance where you want to juggle a young player.
I think we're going to play Leary at OG, anyway, and this will all be moot. Frederick will take over at C, and then only question mark we'll have (I don't consider Livings a liability) will be at RT.

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

The sad part about this whole situation is that we are sitting here talking about the interior line and not once did David Arkin's name come up. That pick looks worse all the time.

 

[Idgit]

The sad part about this whole situation is that we are sitting here talking about the interior line and not once did David Arkin's name come up. That pick looks worse all the time.

That doesn't make me all that sad, honestly. The team seems to (maybe) like him more than I do, but not all of your draft picks are going to stick. We're lucky if we hit on one with Leary and another with Parnell. If Arkin doesn't dramatically improve this camp, chalk it up to a miss and open up that roster spot.

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

That doesn't make me all that sad, honestly. The team seems to (maybe) like him more than I do, but not all of your draft picks are going to stick. We're lucky if we hit on one with Leary and another with Parnell. If Arkin doesn't dramatically improve this camp, chalk it up to a miss and open up that roster spot.

I hate to miss with 3rd round picks though. I do like that we have shown some savvy in the UDFA market, but that does not make missing on a 3rd rounder any better. Those picks are the real bulding blocks of the team.

 

[blindzebra]

The key to pass protection is center. Costa gets pushed back too much. We need brute force in the middle not finesse. Costa may be better as a zone blocker but we are a passing offense first and keeping a pocket for Romo has to be our priority.

 

[speedkilz88]

I hate to miss with 3rd round picks though. I do like that we have shown some savvy in the UDFA market, but that does not make missing on a 3rd rounder any better. Those picks are the real bulding blocks of the team.

Arkin was a 4th.

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

Arkin was a 4th.

Fair enough. The point remains though.

 

[Doomsday101]

The key to pass protection is center. Costa gets pushed back too much. We need brute force in the middle not finesse. Costa may be better as a zone blocker but we are a passing offense first and keeping a pocket for Romo has to be our priority.

We are a pass offense because we can't run with any consistentcy, Garrett wants balance but to have balance you need to show more consistent ablity to run.

 

[blindzebra]

We are a pass offense because we can't run with any consistentcy, Garrett wants balance but to have balance you need to show more consistent ablity to run.

And Frederick is an outstanding run blocker too. Costa moves better in space but that does us no good if he can't handle the point of attack. And Garrett wants balance in the 55/45 pass range not 50/50. We are built to pass and to think otherwise is foolish.

 

[LatinMind]

in the limited time we got to see costa last yr. He was the best interior OL dallas had. By far. And thats saying alot since he played so little. I would love to see line of Smith | Frederick | Costa | Leary/Kowalski | Free. Mack and Livings were probably the worst OL in the nfl last yr.

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

in the limited time we got to see costa last yr. He was the best interior OL dallas had. By far. And thats saying alot since he played so little. I would love to see line of Smith | Frederick | Costa | Leary/Kowalski | Free. Mack and Livings were probably the worst OL in the nfl last yr.

Callahan histrorically likes his Gs to have some mobility...so you would rather put the quicker Costa at C and the slower footed Frederick at G? Does not make a load of sense.

 

[iceberg]

i think we've all been saying we need a quality center for quite some time. i think we got a darn good one who's actually very smart at the position. leave him there.

 

[sureletsrace]

My ideal scenario would be:

LT: Tyron Smith
LG: Frederick
C: Phil Costa (if he beats out Frederick, he's in the same playing shape as he was vs. BAL)
RG: Ron Leary
RT: Jeremy Parnell (if he beats out Free, he must be a much better player)

Our backups would be:

LT: Doug Free
LG: Nate Livings
C: Kevin Kowalski
RG: Mackenzy Bernadeau
RT: Doug Free

If it happened this way, then it would be safe to assume we managed to get the best 5 on the field. That's all I want.

 

[iceberg]

My ideal scenario would be:

LT: Tyron Smith
LG: Frederick
C: Phil Costa (if he beats out Frederick, he's in the same playing shape as he was vs. BAL)
RG: Ron Leary
RT: Jeremy Parnell (if he beats out Free, he must be a much better player)

Our backups would be:

LT: Doug Free
LG: Nate Livings
C: Kevin Kowalski
RG: Mackenzy Bernadeau
RT: Doug Free

If it happened this way, then it would be safe to assume we managed to get the best 5 on the field. That's all I want.

well i think we drafted tfred as a center, so i don't see him playing anything other than that position unless some very bad things happen this year. kowalski isn't even listed as a backup C on the depth chart.

POSFIRSTSECONDTHIRDOTHER
WRDez BryantAnthony ArmstrongJared GreenTim Benford
Eric Rogers
LTTyron SmithDarrion Weems
LGNate LivingsRonald LearyRay Dominguez
CTravis FrederickPhil CostaRyan Cook
RGMackenzy BernadeauDavid ArkinKevin Kowalski
RTDoug FreeJermey ParnellEdawn Coughman

wow. that posted nicely. hope the formatting stays. (nope)

i think we studied long and hard on frederick for the sole purpose of anchoring the line at C, a position of need where we *must* have a smart player. now we do, we should just leave it a good thing alone.

 

[speedkilz88]

Callahan histrorically likes his Gs to have some mobility...so you would rather put the quicker Costa at C and the slower footed Frederick at G? Does not make a load of sense.

The interior guys Callahan has brought in are: Livings, Bernadeau, Leary, and Frederick. Looks like power players with some quickness and agility are more his type.

 

[AsthmaField]

The dislike our fans have for a walk-on college free agent who scrapped his way onto the roster never ceases to astound me. By any reasonable measure, the guy dramatically outperformed expectations and earned his extension. Instead, he's pilloried because the same fans who insist we need to develop players from our bench, when it comes down to it, don't have the stomach to develop players from our bench.

Now, C is a very important position on offense. If Frederick is a huge upgrade there, that's great news for the Dallas Cowboys. I'll love it. But I'm still behind the idea of finding quality college players, letting them knock aging vets off the roster. Playing them early when they show enough in camp. Paying actual attention to how they develop over time. And then replacing them at the drop of a hat if we're lucky enough to find somebody better. Not complaining about any of it all the while.

For me, I'll save my contempt for the lazy players who don't come to work despite their ability. Or for the guys like TO who work their butts off but don't have a high regard for the team. Or for the guys like PacMan Jones who's just a bad person that doesn't deserve to wear the uniform. I'm not going to waste it on college FAs who come in and work their butts off to get better and who do nothing by try to help the team.

Bravo.

Seriously... Bravo.

 

[DrKennethNoisewater]

The interior guys Callahan has brought in are: Livings, Bernadeau, Leary, and Frederick. Looks like power players with some quickness and agility are more his type.

Callahan did not bring any ot the players you mentioned...that is the front office.

So when I say he likes his players to have mobility...you counter with quickness and agility. Are you trying to Jedi mindtrick me by saying the same thing I did with different words?

 

[speedkilz88]

Callahan did not bring any ot the players you mentioned...that is the front office.

So when I say he likes his players to have mobility...you counter with quickness and agility. Are you trying to Jedi mindtrick me by saying the same thing I did with different words?

BS

Those guys have some quickness and agility. Just check their testing but all have been questioned as far as mobility. Certainly not any of them are in the upper group of mobile OL.