Trevon Diggs PFF run defense stats for Week 8

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He did actually make some tackles. That play however, it did look like he let up. I doubt it gets a second look if we didn't see him avoid Kittle in the playoffs.

Diggs is a victim of his own making. I'm sorry man, but when you've got an established history of making business decisions people are gonna key in on you.
Why is this a big thing Deon Sanders never tackled at all he was a soft player and you know it just because he was a great cover corner who by the way people forget he got beat quite a bit by good wide receivers he was just better against most matchups but he didn't win them all and he held and he got away with stuff and Deion Sanders can do this how can Trayvon Biggs be getting this much Flack for his less than stellar physicality or getting beat every once in awhile because he's looking for the hero ball trying to get a pick 6 or whatnot I mean I don't get all the hate comes in here for some of these players not every corner is a lockdown corner or a corner that comes up and plays well in the run game...

So this is not just to you this is for everyone in here please get off his short and curlies a man's not perfect and everyone who keeps asking for all players on this team to be perfect when there's so many holes there's so much other things to talk about and he's right he should get on the coaching staff all day hey people need to start calling out this coaching staff including Jerry Jones he's he kind of intubated towards the fact that he thought the play scheme and the play calls were bad and yet he doesn't fire the guy it's obvious there's problems all over this team and Trayvon diggs is the least of our problems I mean why don't we go look on the other side there is nobody covering the other side and the safeties are not being safeties Donovan Wilson is so much in need of being replaced sat down and reminded that his job is to be physical and be better in coverage and nobody talks about him enough that he is one of the worst defenders on the Defense right now.
 

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These are better numbers than normal from Diggs and I hope he continues to work on his run support every day.
 

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There is no doubt that Diggs looked really soft against the Lions, but he we have to admit he played much better against the 49ers. I think people just want a target and Diggs got in the crosshairs one week, deservedly. But that was then.
 

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Right,



they all act like every corner should be some big-time lockdown physical come up and play the run types that's not what Deon Sanders was asked to do, he made business decisions on a regular basis and made it to the Hall of Fame....


I know he's not Deion Sanders exactly but he does his job most of the time and we have worse things to worry about on this team than getting all over Diggs, which by the way the players need to start calling out the coaches...

I think they need to publicly say they think that the plague calls in the scheming sucks what are they going to do what is this coaching staff have they been neutered they can't do anything I would like to see them all changing the plays and really going off the deep end I'd like to see the coaches lose the team but not in a way where they play that the team just starts ignoring the coaches game plans and in the middle of the game just start playing Sandlot football and get this figured out both sides of the ball I think Prescott I mean what are you going to do Jerry says we don't want him to run what exactly are you going to do if Prescott decides he wants to run a lot in one game, you going to send him down, you benching him, are you cutting him??!!

What power does Jerry Jones and this coaching staff actually have if this team decided go full mutiny on this staff??


I mean isn't that the problem here we say that Mike McCarthy both as a head coach and more so as the offensive coordinators failing big time when you're not running the football all day long like it means something and you become one dimension on your hanging your quarterback out to dry and then you don't try to get help with your tackles or you're not locating I thought the main job is to locate the middle linebacker especially if his name is Fred Warner..

I don't get this fan base at all,


I mean which is it?!



I mean which is it you literally break these games down and you pick on the wrong players…. IMHO.



I thought that the narrative around here was that Jerry Jones and his budget basement diving for free agents, he doesn't make enough trades, he's not aggressive enough, he doesn't do enough to change the narrative on a regular basis in the offseason, then we come into that season and you act surprised when we have some attrition and a lot of injuries that there's no way to recover from it, but let's pick on the players that are just trying a little too hard because they have no choice.


How is it that you're running your fullback on 3rd and five instead of using your quarterback and the fullback in blocking some full blocking package maybe call a option play do something but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen by a professional coach like you were going to trick somebody and then you don't even block the middle linebacker isn't that what most of the call outs are calling 54 or 55 whatever you're supposed to locate the middle linebacker especially if he's the best player on the field??

I mean you have Mike McCarthy designing high school type route trees and maybe I'm delusional saying this because it's supposed to be the West Coast offense but I've seen better stuff running by the better Texas high school teams that are competing for championships on a yearly basis… They're more creative than that, I mean when you break down the film even Troy Aikman said there's no separation, the routes are just confusing, they're too close together, they they're all in the same depth, I mean you have defenders being able to lurk around from their man and fade under and help somebody else that they weren't even supposed to help, and come underneath and get interceptions because the routes are so close together...

I mean you're going to blame Prescott for yes he was getting hit on the 1st interception he didn't get enough on it but this is because both tackles are having problems and the pressure is there almost all game, and I'm not saying it's the worst blocking I've ever seen, but on a consistent basis it's not good, and when your receivers are not getting open fast enough, or they're never open sometimes, your quarterback is just trying to give your better players an opportunity to make a play and instead you have Turpin dropping a past, Lamb never challenging the DB to avoid the INT, and when you're throwing in the tight coverage…


I know we can't blame that tight end early in the game he got his hands on it but he was double covered but the ball was thrown accurately it just wasn't caught and I'm not blaming him but I'm saying this is what the coverages look like,



anybody out here that somehow is delusional blaming Prescott and naming his $60 million contract not really looking at the fact that they have a terrible offensive play caller, terrible scheme, terrible execution by the skill players, and completely abandoning the run game is the worst run game in the NFL, and then you add in bad defense!!!



YET, somehow, we're trying to pick out certain players on the team?? when right now the main problem we have here is the coaching staff and the general manager who's unwilling to help the team.



I get it, at first, I was like yes, we do have a lot of players coming back and it is like you're bringing in new players, but it's a little late for that, you need to add on top of that a couple other players like other teams are doing, whether it works or not make an effort!!



but that's the deal somehow we're blaming the players for what everyone has said for three months that there wasn't enough done in the offseason, not enough done since the beginning of the season when these injuries started happening, and instead of going out and trying to fill those needs and right now before the trade deadline he's saying that we're OK and we're going to make a historical turn around and that might even be true we don't know there's still 10 games left..



But I can't for the life of me understand why we're picking on individual players when most of this is about the scheme or the lack of scheme the lack of adjustments and the coaches just don't have a clue on how to fix what's been broken here and some of it I don't have enough players but on offense Mike McCarthy is the most horrible play caller we've ever had!!


I didn't say it last year because I thought the first year of his offense they would have the first half of the playbook and then they would build on it and we have come into this team relatively healthy on offense we're missing Brandon cooks that's it I mean they had an opportunity to move Tyler Smith back out the left tackle and use a different left guard and then maybe put guy in that right tackle and make some moves to improve the offensive line and didn't do it they have the players on offense that they basically started with so they have no excuse on why they're so bad but when we watch the film nobody's getting open on a regular basis and when they're open the separation rates are some of the worst in football and then you have to add in what I said the scheme's horrible there's too many people close to each other I watch other teams they have guys almost at least one on every play that's almost wide open and it's up to the quarterback to get that guy the ball if he's not being pressured and running for his life..


Yes, I know that this is going to fall on deaf ears most people are not going to read it because this is my first time posting since Sunday, because I can't deal with most of the people in here and I knew I was going to go on a full rant, and I'm going to put this on every page so everyone is forced to see my rant!!


I'm forced to see them picking on players when really this starts from the top; Jerry Jones and the coaching staff first and foremost those things could have been fixed at the bye week and instead yeah Mike McCarthy lying to us the run game was working in the first half and I don't care what the score was you abandon it 56 yards by a professional team and not doing anything in the second-half it's on the coaching staff not the players it's on the coaching staff...



This has been by far the worst run game I've ever seen and it's not because the players name it's not because of Derrick Henry this is non commitment to the run game if you run the ball 25 to 30 * a game in which you need to get any kind of resemblance of a run game can wear a defense out it helps your quarterback by not having the defense be able to tee off because they know it's one dimensional.....just UGHH!!!
 

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You said you can’t win a ring with Diggs. I can’t say that. I’m not arguing he’s physical as Ramsey or Sneed. His base salary for 2024 is 11 million. Doesn’t break the bank.
Right,



they all act like every corner should be some big-time lockdown physical come up and play the run types that's not what Deon Sanders was asked to do, he made business decisions on a regular basis and made it to the Hall of Fame....


I know he's not Deion Sanders exactly but he does his job most of the time and we have worse things to worry about on this team than getting all over Diggs, which by the way the players need to start calling out the coaches...

I think they need to publicly say they think that the plague calls in the scheming sucks what are they going to do what is this coaching staff have they been neutered they can't do anything I would like to see them all changing the plays and really going off the deep end I'd like to see the coaches lose the team but not in a way where they play that the team just starts ignoring the coaches game plans and in the middle of the game just start playing Sandlot football and get this figured out both sides of the ball I think Prescott I mean what are you going to do Jerry says we don't want him to run what exactly are you going to do if Prescott decides he wants to run a lot in one game, you going to send him down, you benching him, are you cutting him??!!

What power does Jerry Jones and this coaching staff actually have if this team decided go full mutiny on this staff??


I mean isn't that the problem here we say that Mike McCarthy both as a head coach and more so as the offensive coordinators failing big time when you're not running the football all day long like it means something and you become one dimension on your hanging your quarterback out to dry and then you don't try to get help with your tackles or you're not locating I thought the main job is to locate the middle linebacker especially if his name is Fred Warner..

I don't get this fan base at all,


I mean which is it?!



I mean which is it you literally break these games down and you pick on the wrong players…. IMHO.



I thought that the narrative around here was that Jerry Jones and his budget basement diving for free agents, he doesn't make enough trades, he's not aggressive enough, he doesn't do enough to change the narrative on a regular basis in the offseason, then we come into that season and you act surprised when we have some attrition and a lot of injuries that there's no way to recover from it, but let's pick on the players that are just trying a little too hard because they have no choice.


How is it that you're running your fullback on 3rd and five instead of using your quarterback and the fullback in blocking some full blocking package maybe call a option play do something but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen by a professional coach like you were going to trick somebody and then you don't even block the middle linebacker isn't that what most of the call outs are calling 54 or 55 whatever you're supposed to locate the middle linebacker especially if he's the best player on the field??

I mean you have Mike McCarthy designing high school type route trees and maybe I'm delusional saying this because it's supposed to be the West Coast offense but I've seen better stuff running by the better Texas high school teams that are competing for championships on a yearly basis… They're more creative than that, I mean when you break down the film even Troy Aikman said there's no separation, the routes are just confusing, they're too close together, they they're all in the same depth, I mean you have defenders being able to lurk around from their man and fade under and help somebody else that they weren't even supposed to help, and come underneath and get interceptions because the routes are so close together...

I mean you're going to blame Prescott for yes he was getting hit on the 1st interception he didn't get enough on it but this is because both tackles are having problems and the pressure is there almost all game, and I'm not saying it's the worst blocking I've ever seen, but on a consistent basis it's not good, and when your receivers are not getting open fast enough, or they're never open sometimes, your quarterback is just trying to give your better players an opportunity to make a play and instead you have Turpin dropping a past, Lamb never challenging the DB to avoid the INT, and when you're throwing in the tight coverage…


I know we can't blame that tight end early in the game he got his hands on it but he was double covered but the ball was thrown accurately it just wasn't caught and I'm not blaming him but I'm saying this is what the coverages look like,



anybody out here that somehow is delusional blaming Prescott and naming his $60 million contract not really looking at the fact that they have a terrible offensive play caller, terrible scheme, terrible execution by the skill players, and completely abandoning the run game is the worst run game in the NFL, and then you add in bad defense!!!



YET, somehow, we're trying to pick out certain players on the team?? when right now the main problem we have here is the coaching staff and the general manager who's unwilling to help the team.



I get it, at first, I was like yes, we do have a lot of players coming back and it is like you're bringing in new players, but it's a little late for that, you need to add on top of that a couple other players like other teams are doing, whether it works or not make an effort!!



but that's the deal somehow we're blaming the players for what everyone has said for three months that there wasn't enough done in the offseason, not enough done since the beginning of the season when these injuries started happening, and instead of going out and trying to fill those needs and right now before the trade deadline he's saying that we're OK and we're going to make a historical turn around and that might even be true we don't know there's still 10 games left..



But I can't for the life of me understand why we're picking on individual players when most of this is about the scheme or the lack of scheme the lack of adjustments and the coaches just don't have a clue on how to fix what's been broken here and some of it I don't have enough players but on offense Mike McCarthy is the most horrible play caller we've ever had!!


I didn't say it last year because I thought the first year of his offense they would have the first half of the playbook and then they would build on it and we have come into this team relatively healthy on offense we're missing Brandon cooks that's it I mean they had an opportunity to move Tyler Smith back out the left tackle and use a different left guard and then maybe put guy in that right tackle and make some moves to improve the offensive line and didn't do it they have the players on offense that they basically started with so they have no excuse on why they're so bad but when we watch the film nobody's getting open on a regular basis and when they're open the separation rates are some of the worst in football and then you have to add in what I said the scheme's horrible there's too many people close to each other I watch other teams they have guys almost at least one on every play that's almost wide open and it's up to the quarterback to get that guy the ball if he's not being pressured and running for his life..


Yes, I know that this is going to fall on deaf ears most people are not going to read it because this is my first time posting since Sunday, because I can't deal with most of the people in here and I knew I was going to go on a full rant, and I'm going to put this on every page so everyone is forced to see my rant!!


I'm forced to see them picking on players when really this starts from the top; Jerry Jones and the coaching staff first and foremost those things could have been fixed at the bye week and instead yeah Mike McCarthy lying to us the run game was working in the first half and I don't care what the score was you abandon it 56 yards by a professional team and not doing anything in the second-half it's on the coaching staff not the players it's on the coaching staff...



This has been by far the worst run game I've ever seen and it's not because the players name it's not because of Derrick Henry this is non commitment to the run game if you run the ball 25 to 30 * a game in which you need to get any kind of resemblance of a run game can wear a defense out it helps your quarterback by not having the defense be able to tee off because they know it's one dimensional.....just UGHH!!!
 

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Why is this a big thing Deon Sanders never tackled at all he was a soft player and you know it just because he was a great cover corner who by the way people forget he got beat quite a bit by good wide receivers he was just better against most matchups but he didn't win them all and he held and he got away with stuff and Deion Sanders can do this how can Trayvon Biggs be getting this much Flack for his less than stellar physicality or getting beat every once in awhile because he's looking for the hero ball trying to get a pick 6 or whatnot I mean I don't get all the hate comes in here for some of these players not every corner is a lockdown corner or a corner that comes up and plays well in the run game...

So this is not just to you this is for everyone in here please get off his short and curlies a man's not perfect and everyone who keeps asking for all players on this team to be perfect when there's so many holes there's so much other things to talk about and he's right he should get on the coaching staff all day hey people need to start calling out this coaching staff including Jerry Jones he's he kind of intubated towards the fact that he thought the play scheme and the play calls were bad and yet he doesn't fire the guy it's obvious there's problems all over this team and Trayvon diggs is the least of our problems I mean why don't we go look on the other side there is nobody covering the other side and the safeties are not being safeties Donovan Wilson is so much in need of being replaced sat down and reminded that his job is to be physical and be better in coverage and nobody talks about him enough that he is one of the worst defenders on the Defense right now.
It's not about perfection, it's about effort. Clearly he was intentional about making better effort to tackle on Sunday, perhaps the best effort he's shown all season - that demonstrates capability. These lame excuses are part of the problem with this team right now, talented players that put forth the effort when they choose to instead of setting a standard to meet week in and week out.

And don't write me a dissertation either.
 

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So what are we paying Diggs for? Endorsement? He doesn’t tackle, he’s not getting turnovers, and his coverage isn’t tight.
Well, in theory, we are paying him to be a shut down CB and take the oppositions best WR out of the game. I don't think he was ever worth the contract we gave him. PFF has had him rated correctly all along. In previous years, he got a lot of personal glory inflating his INT stats at the expense of the team by giving up a ton of plays. PFF correctly pointed out ( and took a ton of flak for it) that his INTs come at a high cost to the team. He gambles too much.
 

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It's not about perfection, it's about effort. Clearly he was intentional about making better effort to tackle on Sunday, perhaps the best effort he's shown all season - that demonstrates capability. These lame excuses are part of the problem with this team right now, talented players that put forth the effort when they choose to instead of setting a standard to meet week in and week out.

And don't write me a dissertation either.
its an addiction he does not want to fight
 

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You said you can’t win a ring with Diggs. I can’t say that. I’m not arguing he’s physical as Ramsey or Sneed. His base salary for 2024 is 11 million. Doesn’t break the bank.
it's not worth it man. he already set you up since we're basically talking about the chiefs at this point. he just adds criteria you can't really definitely argue. plenty of teams could win titles with diggs on his current contract. no i can't prove it. no he can't prove they wouldn't. it's pointless and he's just loud
 

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it's not worth it man. he already set you up since we're basically talking about the chiefs at this point. he just adds criteria you can't really definitely argue. plenty of teams could win titles with diggs on his current contract. no i can't prove it. no he can't prove they wouldn't. it's pointless and he's just loud
Lol if we ever get it turned around 7 won't be on the team. You can kick and scream or whatever you want
 

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it's not worth it man. he already set you up since we're basically talking about the chiefs at this point. he just adds criteria you can't really definitely argue. plenty of teams could win titles with diggs on his current contract. no i can't prove it. no he can't prove they wouldn't. it's pointless and he's just loud
Yeah good point. It’s all speculation honestly. So yeah I can’t say he can’t win because he hasn’t here.
 

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Lol if we ever get it turned around 7 won't be on the team. You can kick and scream or whatever you want
that's cool. he's still better than you ever gave him him credit for. a quality player, and far far better than donovan wilson lol.

and disagreeing with you isn't kicking and screaming. i'm not pouting, or have a bunkbed, or whatever other weirdo scenarios you envision. i just don't agree with you and find it funny that you harp on it while being wrong elsewhere and just dismissing it. no biggie
 

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The man ran from Kittle in a playoff game like a scared baby and that was before he got his bag. What I have seen so far this season has been nothing short of disgusting.
 
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