Trey Lance vs Jordan Love

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Watch the first year highlight tape for Lance. He's built really nice, very athletic, and has a good arm. You can see the flashes. And he's still only 23. A year learning from QB guru McCarthy may have helped him progress in his development the way Dak did (although Dak doesn't have the mental makeup for the big games)......
 

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Because he isn't as good of a QB as Dak. Never been further than him in the playoffs either.

I'm fine moving on from Dak if we get a haul. Not cutting him, that is dumb.
You don't watch much football.

Lamar Jackson won an MVP with a mediocre supporting cast. His #1 RB was a washed up RB Michael Ingram from the Saints, and none of his receivers reached 50 catches. Some how he managed to throw 36 TDs.

Dak is unable to carry the team without a super team around him.
 

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It's either cut him or extend him....the Cowboys can't improve if they pay him 60 million in 2024
Here's another. Threaten to cut unless he agrees to a sign and trade. Whomever trades for him will have to negotiate the contract together without the Cowboys, plus they have to give up a 1st round pick. A lot of smart OCs out there think they can turn water into wine.
 

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16 passes competed, on at least 12 the receivers had no one in the area code.
Isn’t it funny how much that happened to our defense this year? GB offensive coordinator spent his time watching film and exploited it. Yet, opposing defenses blanket our receivers. McCarthy did a terrible job of scheming receivers open when it seems like everyone else in the league can do it on the regular.
 

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Who would trade for a 30 year old QB with a 50M+ contract and one year remaining.

Nobody

It's two options

Release or redo contract


Lance sucks.
How do you know?
On the other hand, we know that Dak sucks and is only good if carried vs DOG teams at home no less.
What do we have to lose????
 

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Oh common, Love was behind Aaron Rodgers for 4 years. He never had a chance to play before this year. Lance had his shot but couldn’t stay healthy and then got beat out by Sam Darnold for a backup QB job.
I spent some time lurking the 49ers board when the trade for lance happened and apparently many of the camp attendees claimed that Darnold did not beat Lance out at all. In fact it was more about coaches favorites and Lance was odd man out. Many of their fans who attended camp claimed that he had a solid camp and lit it up and were pissed that the team traded him to the cowboys. Again this is just hearsay from the 49ers board.
 

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Lance needs game action in the worst way possible. I don't know how much you can learn in 5 years of studying on the sidelines, but he's probably reached that limit.
This is his 3rd year in the league. He need live action reps. The decision to trade for Lance wasn't about replacing Cooper Rush who has shown he can hold the fort but it was about the possibility of moving on from Dak.

Doubt we pay Dak 50M to be his average self when it matters, 3M for Rush to be the backup, and $4M for Lance to hold a clip board.
 

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Correct but the post says June 1st trade. Hence why I asked.

Guess I could have added that I knew the cut part but I assumed that was understood.
From the way I understand it, the problem with either a post Jun 1st trade or cut is that Dak will count like $35 million against the cap this year and then another $30+ million in 2025. Or eat the whole $60+ million with a cut or trade in 2024 before Jun 1st. That seems to be a no win situation for the Cowboys unless they were able to get a significant draft haul for him in a trade. What are the odds of that at this point?
 

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How do you know?
On the other hand, we know that Dak sucks and is only good if carried vs DOG teams at home no less.
What do we have to lose????
How do I know. Because I do.

Willing to bet that nobody will trade for Dak?

You suck too
 

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How do I know. Because I do.

Willing to bet that nobody will trade for Dak?

You suck too
Thank you for your polite words.
Hurting ehh?
I understand but it is what it is.
Look at it this way it will get better once Inepto Prescott is gone for good from the Star!
Enjoy.....
 

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Thank you for your polite words.
Hurting ehh?
I understand but it is what it is.
Look at it this way it will get better once Inepto Prescott is gone for good from the Star!
Enjoy.....
You are happy. Your wish came through. Cowboys lost. Tell me you didn't celebrate?

I guarantee you did. Tell me I am lier?

It's not about Prescott dummy. It's about the cowboys. But we know what you are
 

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You are happy. Your wish came through. Cowboys lost. Tell me you didn't celebrate?

I guarantee you did. Tell me I am lier?

It's not about Prescott dummy. It's about the cowboys. But we know what you are
Only through pain and suffering can a better day be born.
If the loss results in the team I love not extending the cancer called Prescott so be it.
The new day is near..............rejoice! :cool:
 

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Only through pain and suffering can a better day be born.
If the loss results in the team I love not extending the cancer called Prescott so be it.
The new day is near..............rejoice! :cool:
You do not love the Cowboys.

You just hate Prescott.

Your statement is very stupid.
 

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Trade Dak to a team he agrees with, Get Trey Lance ready and draft another insurance qb. Use the rest of picks and cap money to build the greatest defense of all-time
 

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Love had been terrible up until 2 months ago. Something might have clicked for him. I don’t see where Lance had an opportunity to click yet.

Also, I think Dallas has to cut Dak if they plan to move on from him.
That's the problem with Dallas. We fall for the guys who seemingly give us a quick win but stink when it comes to the last 5% but fail to do the ground work first.

Why not give Lance a try even if it ends in a catastrophic first season? Use the time to build the squad, draft more QBs and see if it clicks.

No more of the same, I want change!
 

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As rookies, Love was worse than Lance.

Rookie Season
Love
62 total pass attempts
68.7 QB rating

Lance
71 total pass attempts
97.3 QB rating

A post June 1st trade of Dak saves 35M on the 2024 cap based on his current contract.
All good, except Dak has a no trade clause in his contract.
Dak’s not going anywhere.
 

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Trey probably wasn't a good fit in SF system. But many said Trey didnt get a fair shot. Maybe due the fact SF offense gravitated, stabilize and flourish under Purdy. This preseason and TC might be interesting.
 
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