Adult Language Troy Aikman on the Pat McAfee Show: "Dak Will Be The First QB To $60 Million"

[Beast_from_East]

Oh wait. Prescott isn’t the only greedy QB. Lol

Apparently I have just been informed that it is totally ok to be paid more than $50 million a year as long as it is your 2nd contract and not your 3rd.

Yeah, I seriously was just told that.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The no tag or trade, and 4 year term revealed everything about Dak.

But Jerry agreed to it..................that is what everybody is forgetting about...........Dak didnt pay himself, he didnt give himself a no trade clause, he didnt give himself a no franchise tag, he didnt give himself a short term deal.

So how exactly is it Dak's fault Jerry gave him all of this???

 

[Beast_from_East]

This is a dumb way of looking at things. My job has a pay scale similar to the military, meaning that every person makes the exact same salary at the entry level. Increases in pay are automatic based on years of service.

There is no negotiation process, and no one at a higher level on the pay scale will ever be asked "hey Bob, you mind taking less pay so we can bring in more entry level people?" That's not how it works. To compare the normal working world to professional sports salaries is idiotic.

Not every job in the normal working world is like yours.

I used to work for a Fortune 500 company after graduating from UT and no, every person did not make the same salary at entry level. Pay increases were not based soley on years of service, and you actually negotiated your annual employment contract, you didnt just take whatever you were offered, kinda similar to pro sports. So you see, its not idiotic at all, you just have not been exposed to anything different.

Also, when quarterly earnings would come up a little short and the stock price would dip, guess what???

Employees were asked to take "pay cuts" or be furloughed (typically 6 weeks off, but you dont get paid)......................yes, it actually happens in the real world, you are lucky that you have never encountered this at your job, a lot of folks have.

 

[Beast_from_East]

This isn’t the question to ask. The question to ask is how many posters on this forum would take less money for the betterment of the company if:
1. The “company” consisted of 55+ other men trying to accomplish one goal as a unit.
2. You’re going to make 34 million dollars (not including endorsements) between now and January.
3. You’ve already made 160+ million in your career and you’re only 31. So by the end of January your career earnings is at or very close to 200 million.
4. You like the company you’re working for the coworkers you work with.

Why do CEOs that make over $100 million dollars a year layoff thousands of employees without taking a single penny paycut for themselves???

You want another example, I have a friend that worked at Bungie (a gaming studio) and they just layed off 17% of their workforce by AI-generated text messaging (including one employee on maternity leave) and the EXACT same day as the layoffs the CEO bought $2.3 million dollars worth of classic cars on an auction site.

Companies, be it in the real world or in pro sports, are not here to make friends, they are here to make money. The second they think they can make more money without you or in the case of pro sports, they can replace you with a cheaper player and get similar results, you are gone. So, no, I dont believe anybody should every take less money "for the betterment" of any company because it just might be you getting that text message that you have been laid off.

 

[plymkr]

Why do CEOs that make over $100 million dollars a year layoff thousands of employees without taking a single penny paycut for themselves???

You want another example, I have a friend that worked at Bungie (a gaming studio) and they just layed off 17% of their workforce by AI-generated text messaging (including one employee on maternity leave) and the EXACT same day as the layoffs the CEO bought $2.3 million dollars worth of classic cars on an auction site.

Companies, be it in the real world or in pro sports, are not here to make friends, they are here to make money. The second they think they can make more money without you or in the case of pro sports, they can replace you with a cheaper player and get similar results, you are gone. So, no, I dont believe anybody should every take less money "for the betterment" of any company because it just might be you getting that text message that you have been laid off.

Why did Tom Brady play for under market value? Because he wanted to win Super Bowls and cement himself in history. Why is Patrick Mahomes playing for under market value. Because he cares more about his legacy than his salary.

At the end of January Dak will have amassed career earnings of 200 million. Why is it more of a priority for Dak to be the highest paid player in the league over giving a chance for his team to be better? It’s not like he’s broke. Because it’s more important for Dak to make history with his salary than his legacy.

Whatever you said about CEOs, AI, and making friends as validation for Dak to be the highest paid player, why didn’t that apply to Tom and Patrick?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Troy talked to France I see.

 

[triplets_93]

But Jerry agreed to it..................that is what everybody is forgetting about...........Dak didnt pay himself, he didnt give himself a no trade clause, he didnt give himself a no franchise tag, he didnt give himself a short term deal.

So how exactly is it Dak's fault Jerry gave him all of this???

It's totally the Jones's fault. But they are completely impervious to criticism. They're Billionaires. So I rag on the MegaMillionaire Dak, who is the face of the bad that the Joneses did.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Remember that you’re greedy employee the next time you want a raise because you feel you’re more important to your organization than what they’re paying you!!!

When one is demanding 20+% of a business's available pay cap, go ahead and point fingers. Until then, it's not even comparable.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Football players are not employees. They are independent contractors. Think of them as the various contractors working as individuals for a general contractor.

In this case, the available payroll in closed ended. You rob Peter to pay Paul anytime someone wants a raise.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Why did Tom Brady play for under market value? Because he wanted to win Super Bowls and cement himself in history. Why is Patrick Mahomes playing for under market value. Because he cares more about his legacy than his salary.

At the end of January Dak will have amassed career earnings of 200 million. Why is it more of a priority for Dak to be the highest paid player in the league over giving a chance for his team to be better? It’s not like he’s broke. Because it’s more important for Dak to make history with his salary than his legacy.

Whatever you said about CEOs, AI, and making friends as validation for Dak to be the highest paid player, why didn’t that apply to Tom and Patrick?

 

[noshame]

If Dak stays on this team, this season, without a contract, he is completely mental.
It's not going to be pretty this year.

 

[Doomsay]

Hopefully elsewhere

 

[LACowboysFan1]

For anybody that has run a business, they know the number one rule when it comes to manpower and employee headcount is asking one simple question................."How replaceable is person X"

That is really the only thing that really matters. If a person's job is to move boxes from one building to the next, guess what, they are pretty dam replaceable.

Now if their job is to runs reports, allocates budgets, files taxes, authorizes capital budgeting and incubation projects, ect.....guess what, they are kinda hard to replace with just your average Joe or Jane off the street.

So, relating that back to football, how replaceable is Dak for the Cowboys???...................Can they replace Dak without a significant drop in production???..............The answer to that question will tell you if they sign Dak or not.

While I'm not one of those here who thin-k Rush can play just as well as Dak, from how he's played in games to this point, evidence indicates he could be a satisfactory "bus driver" and at least win 8-9 games, maybe even 10 or 11 and get the Cowboys into the playoffs. And as we've all heard, in that case, "anything can happen". Again, evidence suggests he's not really good enough to win a SB, but who knows? Can Zimmer get this defense to 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens or 2013 Seahawks level? Where a "bus driver" quarterback can be enough to win a SB.

Problem is of course that Dak's under contract for this year, if you let him play out the season then let him leave, Rush is another year older and his "shelf life" will be shorter, meanwhile older guys like Lawrence, Martin, etc. may not be on the team, meaning Rush would have to do more than be just the "bus driver".

Sorry for the long answer, but to summarize, per your analogy, if Dak is the X employee, he is for the most part replaceable, and with the way Jerry and Stephen have botched Dak's contract that's certainly a valid option., imho...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

But Jerry agreed to it..................that is what everybody is forgetting about...........Dak didnt pay himself, he didnt give himself a no trade clause, he didnt give himself a no franchise tag, he didnt give himself a short term deal.

So how exactly is it Dak's fault Jerry gave him all of this???

It all comes back to Jerry...

 

[McKDaddy]

So, let me get this straight.

If a QB asks for more than $50 million a year, as long as its his 2nd contract and not his 3rd, then it is totally OK..........But if it is his 3rd contract, then he is a greedy, self-promoting, non-team player that is being unreasonable???

Tua get $53 a year.......has 0 playoff wins........let me check my notes............ah, its his 2nd contract so he is good to go.

Dak wants market deal.............has multiple playoff wins..........let me check my notes...........ah, its his 3rd contract so the greedy so and so can pound sand.

Seriously???

When you are young, promising and have been playing on a rookie deal it is reasonable to seek a "market" deal for security. Who knows you may very well out play that level of pay.

When you are coming up for your third you are no longer young nor in need of financial security, nor likely to still be ascending. You have the flexibility to make some concessions to put a better team on the field in hopes of getting a championship. If that is important to you.

I was simply saying his situation isn't like the others you listed.

 

[Bullflop]

This is just my high school educated opinion. It's possible that Dak and his agent know that if Dak hits FA, he will get 60+ a year. They're asking for that. He could be asking for 65M. If you don't pay him, what do you do?

Apparently, you'd be forced to go with either Rush or Lance, unless of course, some other whimsical QB appealed to your devilish mood. It just seems like it's just a matter of time for Jerry & Son to come around to reality and submit to the inevitable truth that prevails.

Dak is their best bet and will likely remain as such, unless something totally unexpected happens in the meantime. Could Trey Lance suddenly bloom into the great surprise that many fans had hoped might appear out of the horizon? Jerry & Son await an answer to that idea.

At this point in time, there has been nothing substantial to indicate that's the case. Such a thing seems unlikely, at this juncture. Perhaps TC and the preseason games might indicate something different, but that seems quite doubtful at this juncture.

 

[DandyDon52]

this was an easy prediction to make lol.
most others are done, aren't they?? So yeah, Dak should be first to hit 60, if he holds out till he gets it.

 

[Sandyf]

It always amazes me that the comments about a player or team center on a single player or contract or even the playoffs. There is always something that triggers the fan. Comments about how Mahomes is taking less money to win yet this year his cash value that he gets will be more than the other 31 starting QBs, and Brady taking less over those years of which not a single commentor looked up or tried to find out exactly why he did. And even Brady when asked why he was willing to take less money in an interview, refused to answer the question except to say that was between the Patriots and him.

Every team is being held hostage by the QB money and it isn't going to change unless the NFLPA and owners can agree with a solution. You bet one thing, every QB in the NFL is hoping that Dak doesn't take less than $60 million a year because they all know that the next guy up will get $61 million or more. It is something that the NFL is going to have to figure out because you are going to get into the situation of teams not willing to pay and end up with teams having terrible records because they don't want to spend the money. Sure you can draft a QB every year and hope you hit on a good one for 5 years before he wants to get paid but the odds are worse than gambling in Vegas.

We all continue to blame Dak for not winning in the playoffs and justly so but he didn't allow some 40 points to be scored. And fans forget that Green Bay almost beat the 49ers the next week. The defense deserves the blame all year for not stopping the run. Every game we lost in the season last year, you can point to the other team running the ball down our throat, every team. Green Bay ran for 143 yards and Doubs (no superstar) caught passes for 151 yards. Sorry you aren't going to win any games letting that happen.

It all comes down to how the front office values things. I can't even blame Quinn because our GM/Owner doesn't want to pay for good not great DTs. The middle of the defense was more of a move and let them though all year.

Everyone wants Dak to take less or CeeDee to take less or Micah to take less, and you know what so does every other team's fans about their star players. That's never going to happen unless the NFL guarantees every contract and you know that is never going to happen. This ain't the NBA or MLB. Will Dak get $60 million? Definitely but most likely not from Dallas and many will say great. BUT, what if Dallas wins the division this year then goes on a run and gets to the Super Bowl, then the price just went up, way up if you want to keep him and whether you believe it or not many fans will want to keep him regardless of the cost. Jerry might say no way but some team will pay the price of probably $65 million a year or more.

Of course Dallas will have probably Trey Lance and Cooper Rush and maybe a 1st round QB if they can give up enough to trade up and hope you hit on a guy. Odds are definitely no way in your favor. They could tank 2025 and maybe get a shot at Arch Manning in the 2026 draft. Frankly, it is going to be a crap shoot if we don't get those big three signed. And to those who don't think we can afford it under the cap, remember the cap is rising each year and how they structure those contracts and the guaranteed money on them, tells you if they can or want to sign them. Just remember Jerry is a business man first and a good football GM last. Look at Oxnard currently and he is losing his mind with very few fans in the stands. Means a lot to him because people aren't buying the merchandise and that means revenues are down. His value goes up when Dallas wins and stays positive in most fans eyes, and that isn't happening now. And you think he is going to sell, well you don't make your business look down trying to get top dollar for it.

The facts are that no fan is knowledgeable about what is going on behind the scenes in Dallas, from coaches making decisions of players, to what or if there are contracts offers to Dak or CeeDee to even how the season will turn out. No one saw Dallas going to 12-5 last year and yet it happens and if they stay relative healthy then the same record is possible. But it won't be enough if we lose the 1st playoff game because for many fans it is like going 1-16. Just the way it is.

 

[DandyDon52]

Dak (and our other star players) is more satisfied to win the Salary Bowl than the Super Bowl.

Thats great lol ......

Salary Bowl !! could become a new saying.

 

[DandyDon52]

So, let me get this straight.

If a QB asks for more than $50 million a year, as long as its his 2nd contract and not his 3rd, then it is totally OK..........But if it is his 3rd contract, then he is a greedy, self-promoting, non-team player that is being unreasonable???

Tua get $53 a year.......has 0 playoff wins........let me check my notes............ah, its his 2nd contract so he is good to go.

Dak wants market deal.............has multiple playoff wins..........let me check my notes...........ah, its his 3rd contract so the greedy so and so can pound sand.

Seriously???

dak's 1st contract was 4th rounder, so not a good one. He has only had 1 good one.
I dont think comparing qb's is a good way to decide dak is or isnt worth what he wants.
Was tua worth 53 ? well to miami he was. That doesnt mean the next guy or dak is worth 53 too lol.

It is always worth to that team and owners / GM's will decide that.

With dak, it is up to jones boys to decide daks value , and then decide to stick to what they think or cave to keep the player.

Minnesota with jefferson, I think they caved, and there are other times teams cave to keep the player.
KC didnt cave with tyreek.