Adult Language Troy Aikman on the Pat McAfee Show: "Dak Will Be The First QB To $60 Million"

[Diehardblues]

Troy was a bus driver. Danny was not a miracle worker. Dak is not a miracle worker. No QB in the NFL is a miracle worker.

If you take Troy's 3 SB's away. He is a complete nobody. His stats are awful.

But “ impact “ is part of what defines greatness.

Being an instrumental part of that success was part of his lure. And why stats don’t tell the whole story.

Individual stats better help define greatness when you’re not on a successful team.

 

[Chasing6]

Actually we aren’t aware of what he’s been offered. Pure speculation at this point.

And what is fair? Does that mean below what the Market is?

Sounds like we have some fans who have never been in a position to negotiate their contracts or agreements having to accept whatever is offered.

No chance Dak was happy with the unnecessary trade for Trance. GM Jethro sent a message to Dak. Now Dak is sending a much louder message to GM Jethro.

Here is another problem with Jerry being the Owner/GM. He can't hide behind the GM and has to own every decision he makes.

 

[FanofJerry]

Actually we aren’t aware of what he’s been offered. Pure speculation at this point.

And what is fair? Does that mean below what the Market is?

Sounds like we have some fans who have never been in a position to negotiate their contracts or agreements having to accept whatever is offered.

I dont know. Dak has earned his stripes with 7+ decent seasons of football at a tough position.

I mean...I guess taking less than all the other guys would be a slap in his face considering the cap mostly goes up every year.

Demanding 60M for milestone purposes and possibly letting that 'barrier' be an issue starts to get childish.

Im all for players getting paid market value.

The Jones's are being frugal if offering 58-59M but Dak wants 60M. I dont think its that petty....but if it was...one of the sides starts looking ridiculous.

I get that its a fight for both sides...but when most 'people' are making far less...theatrics of arguing over about a few millions of dollars starts to almost look as pissing on lower middle class fans.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Here's the thing. If Dak wants to be paid based on what he would get in FA, then why pay him now? Why not wait until the season is over? It gives Jerry no reason to pay him sooner rather than later.

We don't know what Jerry offered him. But unlike normal jobs, the amounts for QBs are ridiculous. Does it matter if you get 5M less a year for 4-5 years? At this point it either has to be pride or greed.

For all we know Jerry offered him 50M. That's where pride comes in. But if he was offered 55M a year, that's where greed comes in.

At this point it’s either Jerry’s pride or Jerry’s greed.

 

[acr731]

Asking for market value is greedy?

You don't think CD is greedy?

You don't think Micah will be greedy?

Market value would be within a range, say 50 to 54 million. He seems to want 60+, which would do what? It would make him the highest paid ever with the fewest accomplishments. He isn't worth that. Period.

I kinda hope he goes to a division foe and they are stupid enough to pay him what he wants. What would be even better if that were to happen, who would know better how to beat him than his former team? Smack him in the mouth to start a game and he is toast.

 

[Chasing6]

Market value would be within a range, say 50 to 54 million. He seems to want 60+, which would do what? It would make him the highest paid ever with the fewest accomplishments. He isn't worth that. Period.

I kinda hope he goes to a division foe and they are stupid enough to pay him what he wants. What would be even better if that were to happen, who would know better how to beat him than his former team? Smack him in the mouth to start a game and he is toast.

CD wants to be the highest paid. Micah wants to be the highest paid. What have they accomplished?

 

[visionary]

That's the holdup. Dak wants to be a trendsetter.

Cant be

@America's Cowboy said that Dak should take a discount (of course now he will deny it LOL)

 

[Flamma]

You pay him now instead of waiting until next year ( assuming you actually want to retain him) because if he feels he needs to prove himself after 8 seasons then he realizes it’s time to move on.

It’s why I have agreed with all of the local media I follow who have maintained if we don’t get a deal done before the season Prescott is gone .

it’s not just about the money assuming he will be able to receive the same amount then as now . It’s about a franchise having the faith and confidence that you are their guy and willing to pay whatever he could fetch elsewhere.

If Cowboys ownership, FO and or coaching staff have any reservations or hesitations they should move on. I understand what fans feel but this isn’t about what fans think.

As I’ve maintained why shouldn’t a player attempt to optimize their market value. We don’t think it’s greed when the NFL negotiates their TV contracts or major companies make ungodly profits and don’t reward their employees appropriately.

But an athlete attempting to optimize their market value outrages us.

I don't disagree with you for most of this post, just the tail end of it. But if someone is going to want me to give them a contract that reflects what they'd get in a bidding war, I'd rather go to the bidding war. That's just my opinion.

No one cares about TV deals. People care about what players make because it has a direct impact on the cap. You know this. How often do we here about what a coach makes? Any threads on how much they are being paid? No. Because no one cares.

 

[Diehardblues]

CD wants to be the highest paid. Micah wants to be the highest paid. What have they accomplished?

They’ve become one of the best at their positions.

Unfortunately too many fans only recognize greatness with team accomplishments.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Well whatever the number is…if it’s 60…that’s 10 million more than 50…..

I don’t think he’s greedy but even if he was I’d have no issue with it. Get all the money you can your career can be over any minute.

If I had faith in the Cowboys front office to use those savings wisely the I’d probably be frustrated….but they don’t sign free agents and if someone needs to take a cut the last player it should be is the franchise qb.

You don't get to charge $60 million and then worry about what the rest of the cap is spent on. If you take $50million, you get to worry about the $10mm. you left on the table and where it goes...at best.

Dak is preaching sacrifice...but he makes none financially. And guess what? He's not good enough to take 21% of the salary cap and not get help. It's year 8...this is established as fact by now.

 

[Creeper]

Jerry's problem was not planning ahead. He should have foresaw what the top QBs were going to be making. He gave Dak all the power. I actually find that a little humorous. Jerry was outdone by Dak. lol I think that's the reason for the Lance trade to try to put pressure on Dak to take a smaller amount but that's backfired. Lance is not a starter. Now the Cowboys are in a pickle. They have no idea what to do if Dak leaves next year because they aren't prepared. Dak wants his money and Jerry either caves or Dak leaves. I think the fact that Dak is talking freely about leaving and doesn't care what he says about the fans proves he's not budging. Dak isn't worth the money he's asking for but the Cowboys totally blew it.

I get the feeling that Jerry delays these issues as long as he can because he doesn't want to deal with them. Then he just gives in because he doesn't want to take the heat for letting these players go. GM's have to be bold and take risks sometimes. In 2021, when Dak demanded 4 years, $40 million, no trade, no franchise tag Jerry should have said no, tagged him and traded him for the best offer he could get.

Waiting on these contracts only increases the leverage the players have.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't disagree with you for most of this post, just the tail end of it. But if someone is going to want me to give them a contract that reflects what they'd get in a bidding war, I'd rather go to the bidding war. That's just my opinion.

No one cares about TV deals. People care about what players make because it has a direct impact on the cap. You know this. How often do we here about what a coach makes? Any threads on how much they are being paid? No. Because no one cares.

They should care cause those contracts whether it’s networks, streaming or sponsorships for example greatly impacts the Cap.

I’d argue it’s not fair to hold players at fault for attempting to optimize their value. Ultimately it’s on the Mgmt to balance the budget.

It’s laughable to me that Cowboys fans would believe a couple more million a year in Cap is going to put this team over the top. Our ownership mismanaged much more than our QB’s contract.

 

[Chasing6]

You don't get to charge $60 million and then worry about what the rest of the cap is spent on. If you take $50million, you get to worry about the $10mm. you left on the table and where it goes...at best.

Dak is preaching sacrifice...but he makes none financially. And guess what? He's not good enough to take 21% of the salary cap and not get help. It's year 8...this is established as fact by now.

Well did Dak get to worry about where the cap was spent when GM Jetthro traded for a $5.3M project???

 

[Diehardblues]

You don't get to charge $60 million and then worry about what the rest of the cap is spent on. If you take $50million, you get to worry about the $10mm. you left on the table and where it goes...at best.

Dak is preaching sacrifice...but he makes none financially. And guess what? He's not good enough to take 21% of the salary cap and not get help. It's year 8...this is established as fact by now.

If that’s the case which I’m not arguing for or against , then why does our ownership appear more than willing to pay at least close to that?

 

[DallasEast]

Dak Prescott becomes highest-paid player in league history, based on value at signing
Pro Football Talk
March 8, 2021 (link)

Dak has turned into a super greedy player... Dak has turned into a greedy abruti!

"Has turned?"

In my opinion, professional sports athletes, owners, coaches, agents, etc., are all greedy. More power to them.

BUT

It is 2024. Dak Prescott had already agreed to the biggest contract in NFL history. He did not turn greedy now. He did not turn super greedy now. Prescott established his sense of greed over three years ago.

I mean. Is this one of those rare times when leeblair should be complimented for emphasizing a Mr. Obvious fact? Prescott desires greater compensation at this point of his career. It is because he is greedy. All of them are greedy.

 

[FVSTONE]

This is exactly why Mahomes is in a class all by himself, he signed a large contract and hasn't said one word about it being outdated. The man should he making 70 million a year with all his playoff and SB success, but you don't hear him whining about rewriting his contract to make him the highest paid player in the NFL. His team first attitude has allowed KC to stock his team with ballers. He's also making a ton of money from all the national commercials he stars in. Prescot doesn't deserve a 50 million dollar a yr contract, let alone a 60 million a yr one for running it up on NFL TOADS or playing against prevent defenses that allow him to get all the ridiculous stats because the Boys are getting blown out in the 2nd quarter by a superior opponent.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak Prescott becomes highest-paid player in league history, based on value at signing
Pro Football Talk
March 8, 2021 (link)


"Has turned?"

In my opinion, professional sports athletes, owners, coaches, agents, etc., are all greedy. More power to them.

BUT

It is 2024. Dak Prescott had already agreed to the biggest contract in NFL history. He did not turn greedy now. He did not turn super greedy now. Prescott established his sense of greed over three years ago.

I mean. Is this one of those rare times when leeblair should be complimented for emphasizing a Mr. Obvious fact? Prescott desires greater compensation at this point of his career. It is because he is greedy. All of them are greedy.

Perhaps we need to define “ greedy”.

Is that anyone who doesn’t take what they are offered?

 

[Chasing6]

Dak has turned into a super greedy player. There is no other way around it. Dude is all about getting paid the most. He lied when he said this offseason that he didn't want to be highest paid. Then why wait until all the other QBs got paid this year?

Dak has turned into a greedy abruti!

Jerry is extremely greedy. Instead of offering Dak a legit long term contract he tagged him twice.

Dak bet on in himself. You would prefer a less confident QB unwilling to bet on himself?

Then GM Jethro trades for Trance. What was the reason behind it? GM Jethro obviously wanted to test the market by looking for his replacement. Now Dak is doing the same.

 

[Flamma]

They should care cause those contracts whether it’s networks, streaming or sponsorships for example greatly impacts the Cap.

I’d argue it’s not fair to hold players at fault for attempting to optimize their value. Ultimately it’s on the Mgmt to balance the budget.

It’s laughable to me that Cowboys fans would believe a couple more million a year in Cap is going to put this team over the top. Our ownership mismanaged much more than our QB’s contract.

TV deals impact the cap for everyone in general. Players impact your team only. Which is what matters. No one cares if the cap is 300 million, or 50,000. They care how their favorite team's cap is impacted.

We see this is normal life with regular jobs. How is this street cleaner making 90k a year? Because it comes from their taxes. If it didn't, no one would care. Fans care about what impacts their team directly. Fans don't care if they have to play for food, or millions of dollars. What impacts the team is all that matters.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is exactly why Mahomes is in a class all by himself, he signed a large contract and hasn't said one word about it being outdated. The man should he making 70 million a year with all his playoff and SB success, but you don't hear him whining about rewriting his contract to make him the highest paid player in the NFL. His team first attitude has allowed KC to stock his team with ballers. He's also making a ton of money from all the national commercials he stars in. Prescot doesn't deserve a 50 million dollar a yr contract, let alone a 60 million a yr one for running it up on NFL TOADS or playing against prevent defenses that allow him to get all the ridiculous stats because the Boys are getting blown out in the 2nd quarter by a superior opponent.

At the time of Mahomes record breaking 10 year deal he was the highest paid QB.

But it’s going to reset each season as Cap increases setting Market Price .

And why contracts don’t represent the pecking order.

I seriously doubt he’ll wait 10 years to renegotiate his contract.