Adult Language Troy Aikman on the Pat McAfee Show: "Dak Will Be The First QB To $60 Million"

Chasing6

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At the time of Mahomes record breaking 10 year deal he was the highest paid QB.

But it’s going to reset each season as Cap increases setting Market Price .

And why contracts don’t represent the pecking order.

I seriously doubt he’ll wait 10 years to renegotiate his contract.
Mahomes will redo his contract soon enough.
 

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TV deals impact the cap for everyone in general. Players impact your team only. Which is what matters. No one cares if the cap is 300 million, or 50,000. They care how their favorite team's cap is impacted.

We see this is normal life with regular jobs. How is this street cleaner making 90k a year? Because it comes from their taxes. If it didn't, no one would care. Fans care about what impacts their team directly. Fans don't care if they have to play for food, or millions of dollars. What impacts the team is all that matters.
I understand but that isn’t the player’s responsibility to balance the budget .

And there’s no guarantees Mgmt can use the savings effectively.

Fans must always remember this is a business first and why players will continue to bolt teams for a bigger contract.

Our ownership always has a choice to dig in or move on. That’s part of the business. I applaud the players if they can earn more in another city like I would any colleague I worked with.
 

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Perhaps we need to define “ greedy”.

Is that anyone who doesn’t take what they are offered?
Not certain how why the term should be re-defined from what humanity has always accepted it as. The Merriam-Webster.com definition (link):

greed​

noun

: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (such as money) than is needed


Is that definition not simple enough for everyone? It is a term that can be applicable to any person, regardless if they are a professional athlete, owner or person on the street.

People have a tendency of putting professional sports athletes into different pools in terms of financial compensation. Every single one receives more compensation than they need. Why? Because they are greedy.
 

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Who actually believes that our ownership will effectively use the savings if we save 2-5 million a year on his contract ?
 

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Not certain how why the term should be re-defined from what humanity has always accepted it as. The Merriam-Webster.com definition (link):

greed​

noun

: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (such as money) than is needed


Is that definition not simple enough for everyone? It is a term that can be applicable to any person, regardless if they are a professional athlete, owner or person on the street.

People have a tendency of putting professional sports athletes into different pools in terms of financial compensation. Every single one receives more compensation than they need. Why? Because they are greedy.
Greed shouldn’t be a negative description. It clearly defines human instincts.

Who isn’t looking or pursuing for more than they need?
 

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If he was truly offered 55 a year i am confused why if money doesn’t matter ( his words) he didn’t sign that deal right away?
Well it could be the language how it's written the guarantees the length etcetera.. I'm sure Jerry would love like an 8 to 10 year contract like they did with Patrick mahomes but Prescott's probably pressing 4 years things he's got another contract coming so yeah there's a lot of other things besides the amount of money for me if you wanted to be a trend center and got offered 55.5 fully guaranteed why wouldn't that be a transcenter because that would be more guaranteed money than any of the other quarterbacks that should get it done but again language specifics things in the contract like lane it it matters to players that's why last time he got Jerry for making him wait he breaks his ankle and still gets no franchise tag no trade clauses in the contract so maybe garry's trying to get those back or something who knows... At least there's talking and at the very least Prescott and Parsons both show up lamb did not and that's a bad look to me that the guys willing to take $40,000 hit a day already under contract for $1 million a game yes $17 million this year he is under a contract and I get why he's doing it but at least Prescott showed up and it's playing on his one year deal I mean he's practicing and exposing himself in training camp even knowing like last time he was on the franchise taggy broke his ankle..

So, I gotta give credit to Prescott and his camp for allowing him to show up and I'm wondering it's because I think they think something's going to get done I think the negotiations are going well enough he didn't need to threaten a holdout... Just a gut feeling... Because I believe they want to get both contracts with lamb and Prescott done at the same time and I think they're negotiating at the same time trying to find a middle ground for both contracts to work at the same time but again all opinion all guessing just like all the rest of us are doing...
 

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Not certain how why the term should be re-defined from what humanity has always accepted it as. The Merriam-Webster.com definition (link):

greed​

noun

: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (such as money) than is needed


Is that definition not simple enough for everyone? It is a term that can be applicable to any person, regardless if they are a professional athlete, owner or person on the street.

People have a tendency of putting professional sports athletes into different pools in terms of financial compensation. Every single one receives more compensation than they need. Why? Because they are greedy.
In this case and I don't know who you're talking to because I have them blocked on ignore I don't think it's greed because what's the difference really between 50 and 56 million the 60 millions the number being thrown out if he becomes a free agent and that's might be the reality because he's gonna have so many bidders they're gonna help each other it's gonna raise the number but then I think word we could be looking here as ego these guys want the bragging rights to be the highest paid at their position with the highest guarantees and I know it kind of overlaps greed with ego but I think ego would be the word I see/..
 

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Well it could be the language how it's written the guarantees the length etcetera.. I'm sure Jerry would love like an 8 to 10 year contract like they did with Patrick mahomes but Prescott's probably pressing 4 years things he's got another contract coming so yeah there's a lot of other things besides the amount of money for me if you wanted to be a trend center and got offered 55.5 fully guaranteed why wouldn't that be a transcenter because that would be more guaranteed money than any of the other quarterbacks that should get it done but again language specifics things in the contract like lane it it matters to players that's why last time he got Jerry for making him wait he breaks his ankle and still gets no franchise tag no trade clauses in the contract so maybe garry's trying to get those back or something who knows... At least there's talking and at the very least Prescott and Parsons both show up lamb did not and that's a bad look to me that the guys willing to take $40,000 hit a day already under contract for $1 million a game yes $17 million this year he is under a contract and I get why he's doing it but at least Prescott showed up and it's playing on his one year deal I mean he's practicing and exposing himself in training camp even knowing like last time he was on the franchise taggy broke his ankle..

So, I gotta give credit to Prescott and his camp for allowing him to show up and I'm wondering it's because I think they think something's going to get done I think the negotiations are going well enough he didn't need to threaten a holdout... Just a gut feeling... Because I believe they want to get both contracts with lamb and Prescott done at the same time and I think they're negotiating at the same time trying to find a middle ground for both contracts to work at the same time but again all opinion all guessing just like all the rest of us are doing...
Hmmm...if I squint my eyes I think I see a little rocket in space going toward the moon.
 

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Greed shouldn’t be a negative description. It clearly defines human instincts.

Who isn’t looking or pursuing for more than they need?
Merriam-Webster's definition is neither negative nor positive. It is an elucidation of fact.
 

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I understand but that isn’t the player’s responsibility to balance the budget .

And there’s no guarantees Mgmt can use the savings effectively.

Fans must always remember this is a business first and why players will continue to bolt teams for a bigger contract.

Our ownership always has a choice to dig in or move on. That’s part of the business. I applaud the players if they can earn more in another city like I would any colleague I worked with.
We're talking about why fans care about one thing and not the other. I explained that to you. I don't expect players to care. Their top priority is money, not winning anything. But a team's priority is to win a championship with or without you. Fans will side with the owners and team. I don't root for big player contracts. I root for team success.
 

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Personally I would have drafted and been developing another QB to move on.

But since we haven’t I’m not sure the alternatives are valid at this time to move on without a plan in place .

And 55-60 isn’t going to impact building this team without a QB unless of course you’re willing to start over which I seriously doubt our ownership is willing to do at this time .

I understand some fans are and think our dysfunctional ownership has the ability to build a better team . Sorry if I don’t have that confidence.
 

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Merriam-Webster's definition is neither negative nor positive. It is an elucidation of fact.
Yes but in this thread or generally with these thoughts of players is being used as a negative.

Everyone is greedy to some extent. Why should players be called out for it ?
 

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Why wouldn’t a player attempt to optimize their market value?

Like a couple million a year is going to be enough for our dysfunctional ownership build a championship team. Lol
lol, that’s a great point. Dallas saving some money on Dak will just mean they can waste it somewhere else.
 

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Yes but in this thread or generally with these thoughts of players is being used as a negative.

Everyone is greedy. Why should players be called out for it ?
Right or wrong, commentary is motivated by players' impact on an individual's favorite team's salary cap.
 

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I understand but that isn’t the player’s responsibility to balance the budget .

And there’s no guarantees Mgmt can use the savings effectively.

Fans must always remember this is a business first and why players will continue to bolt teams for a bigger contract.

Our ownership always has a choice to dig in or move on. That’s part of the business. I applaud the players if they can earn more in another city like I would any colleague I worked with.
GM Jethro is not smart enough to look into and plan for the future.

We had an opportunity to get a starting guard last season in round 2. We drafted a TE. Then Martin holds out. This year was the best WR draft in some time, then CD holds out.

What did the Niners do knowing Aiyuk would most likely hold out? They drafted a WR in round 1.

Our FO is clueless.
 

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I understand but that isn’t the player’s responsibility to balance the budget .

And there’s no guarantees Mgmt can use the savings effectively.

Fans must always remember this is a business first and why players will continue to bolt teams for a bigger contract.

Our ownership always has a choice to dig in or move on. That’s part of the business. I applaud the players if they can earn more in another city like I would any colleague I worked with.
I understand fans have an emotional investment (I did too at one point), but you really need to stand back and realize this is a business first and foremost for a career that averages 5 years and you are willing to sacrifice your long term health. Players will always do what they can to maximize on their earnings...and at the end of the day they should. You never hear people complaining about how much owners make and plus it's their (and the GM) job to figure out how to field a competitive team. Not the players.
 
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