Trying to win with a QB who can’t run and is slow

[TexasHillbilly]

Dumb take. Rodgers on cowboys probably goes to superbowl easy. Sure he’s older and not as good as once was but still better qb than dak

Dumber take coming from you. Be nice to other posters.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Dak's foot speed has nothing to do with success. The speed between his ears needs to pick up. The best QBs stand in the pocket and get rid of the ball quickly. Next week, Brady will give us a clinic on standing in the pocket, making quick reads, and getting rid of the ball.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No....you didnt actually type it.
But by judging the expertise of others, you imply it.

So you assumed it? That’s your problem not mine.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Dumb take. Rodgers on cowboys probably goes to superbowl easy. Sure he’s older and not as good as once was but still better qb than dak

I agree. Rodgers is throwing to practice squad level wrs this year. He would be a huge improvement over Dak but probably not for very long. He has a bad attitude and is going to be 39 next season. Daks contract is also an issue.. So, there would be no way to pay Rodgers who would probably want 45-50M to leave GB.

 

[USArmyVet]

Won 4 straight and still failed lol.

Sort of like Dak winning 13 in 2016 and getting bounced in the playoffs? Sort of like Dak having 1 playoff win in 6 seasons but keep pointing to his passing stats.....that is failure.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

SO.....you're good with your Romo and his fans hate....but defend dak to the death.

Fairly hypocritical there.

what hypocricy? you are fishing....ice fishing perhaps.

I am not on either side. Romo was good. not great. he had his flaws. he was not elite. he had his detractors and his fans. he gave us a chance. we just didn't have the right team to win it. we just haven't had an elite QB since Aikman and there is only at most 3-4 of those each year in the NFL. so 28,29 other teams have to compete and win without one. and its not impossible. its been done.

but seemingly you want to start a debate about Romo vs. Dak and their fan/hate base. makes no sense.

 

[MyFairLady]

He sure doesn't look like the guy that was awesome as a rookie. What I saw yesterday reminded me of Drew Bledsoe at the end. A guy with no interest in taking off and happy to hold the ball in the pocket for as long as it takes.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So you assumed it? That’s your problem not mine.

Whatever ya say hoss.

Come in blasting people, fellow fans....with opinions, then acting all coy and nonchalant about it.

But its me with the problem. Sure.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

what hypocricy? you are fishing....ice fishing perhaps.

I am not on either side. Romo was good. not great. he had his flaws. he was not elite. he had his detractors and his fans. he gave us a chance. we just didn't have the right team to win it. we just haven't had an elite QB since Aikman and there is only at most 3-4 of those each year in the NFL. so 28,29 other teams have to compete and win without one. and its not impossible. its been done.

but seemingly you want to start a debate about Romo vs. Dak and their fan/hate base. makes no sense.

Look you are the one that brought him into it...not me.
And his "worshippers".

 

[Cmac]

So you're saying dak is 12 wins back to back with the number 1 ppg offense, inspite of having brown and Moore?

....then let's just settle for a participation certificate.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

They gotta be elite passer. Dak ain’t elite throwing. He ain’t good running - so unless better wr and outstanding play calling basically have no shot at winning.

And then with a shotgun arm.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Sort of like Dak winning 13 in 2016 and getting bounced in the playoffs? Sort of like Dak having 1 playoff win in 6 seasons but keep pointing to his passing stats.....that is failure.

People use his regular season win record as proof of his prowess, but dont mention playoffs.

 

[zrinkill]

1st down ....... run up the middle
2nd down ........run up the middle
3rd down .........throw it to a triple covered Noah Brown.
4th down ......... QB sneak sideways

Jerry .......... profit.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Whatever ya say hoss.

Come in blasting people, fellow fans....with opinions, then acting all coy and nonchalant about it.

But its me with the problem. Sure.

I said what I said. Y’all aren’t qualified to say who can win and who can’t. You’re not. You can do what you please but you’re not qualified. Sorry. Not sorry.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Sort of like Dak winning 13 in 2016 and getting bounced in the playoffs? Sort of like Dak having 1 playoff win in 6 seasons but keep pointing to his passing stats.....that is failure.

Failure is failure. No matter who’s the face of it. That’s hard for some of y’all to grasp lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

People use his regular season win record as proof of his prowess, but dont mention playoffs.

He’s played good enough in the playoffs except last year. Dak was fine in the Packers game. But go off.

 

[fivetwos]

I am convinced Dak's biggest problems are mental. Does anyone remember Steve Sax, who played for the Dodgers and Yankees? He was considered one of the better fielding 2nd basemen in baseball until one day he couldn't make an ordinary throw to 1st base. He'd field a ground ball and with plenty of time to throw 40 feet to the 1st baseman he would throw it wildly almost anywhere but at the first basemen. He had something like 30 throwing errors in one year. They dubbed it the Steve Sax Syndrome, and it is all mental.

Can a QB develop a similar ailment? Yesterday Dak was having difficulty throwing simple passes to the RBs in the flat. On one 3rd down play he had Pollard wide open and Dak threw it in the dirt. I have no idea why he was so off yesterday, but he was clearly struggling to hit his receivers running routine routes. Was Dak rattled for some reason? Or is he struggling with a mental condition similar to the yips in golf? If there is nothing wrong with him physically then the only explanation for a performance like yesterday has got to be mental. Who knows what is going on in Dak's head but let's hope it is a one game thing.

At the same time, I am getting sick of hearing Dak say it will get fixed, and it will not happen again, only to see him do the same thing the following week. Every week he says the same thing. Dak should just say I played poorly and leave it at that. We know he has to play better. We know he is trying. But that is not good enough. Words don't mean a thing. It is clear at this point he has no control over the INTs and he cannot stop doing it so why say it will stop? Just play better or shut up. The problem for Dallas is Dak seems to be getting worse every year.

I am convinced it is mental with Dak because he will play so poorly for a quarter in some games then have a HoF performance for the rest of the game. What changed? It cannot be physical and it never was with Dak despite all the excuses of bad shoulders, bad ankles, bad thumbs, etc. I am surprised the Cowboys did not rollout the hyperextended knee as an excuse after yesterday's game.

I remember both Sax and his problem well. The “yips” is what they called it.

Guys named Mackey Sasser and Chuck Knoblauch had the same problem….but I don’t know that’s Prescotts problem.

The problem is they want him to be a pure pocket passer, and when has that ever been an effective way to use him?

He was a 4th round pick at a time when his legs were a big part of being rated even that highly.

He was a bus driver and used his legs to move chains constantly in his rookie year and they won 13 games.

Someone then had the genius idea (I have my suspicions as to exactly who) of featuring his arm to win games.

Some blowouts…at home…against some bad division teams….I guess fueled the idea that this could work. It can’t and I’ve been saying that for years.

It’s not like I don’t like the guy or blame him. It’s not his fault that he is limited….he is simply used wrong, but overrating their own talent is the true trademark of Jerry’s Dallas Cowboys, and at this point I’m not sure we are ever getting the ones we once knew back in our lifetimes.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

1st down ....... run up the middle
2nd down ........run up the middle
3rd down .........throw it to a triple covered Noah Brown.
4th down ......... QB sneak sideways

Jerry .......... profit.

The msot predictable play in sports is run up the middle on first down. How people defend Kellen is weird to me.

 

[xwalker]

They gotta be elite passer. Dak ain’t elite throwing. He ain’t good running - so unless better wr and outstanding play calling basically have no shot at winning.

• "A qb who can’t run and is slow"
  • Tom Brady
  • Peyton Manning
  • etc...

• Sub 4.5 forty QBs that have won the Super Bowl:
  • Crickets...

 

[jsb357]

The talent on this team is not at the level needed to carry the nontalent that we have playing QB.

It's really that simple.