Tucker, Petitti - How NOT benched

[junk]

I was one of the ones who say that it might be better for the team in the long run and I still feel that way. I never want to see anyone injured but getting younger players experience is always the best option in non-playoff years if the starter comes back healthy.

Tucker and by extension Dallas' OL depth will be better in '06 than he/they were at the start of '05 and I really think '06 could be something special.

I see your point, but I don't think you were really the type of poster I was addressing.

There were posters that were saying the loss of Flo would not hurt the team and would actually be an upgrade. Obviously, not true.

However, I will say that at the time of Flo's injury, you couldn't honestly consider this team "non-playoff" could you?

 

[Doomsday101]

I see your point, but I don't think you were really the type of poster I was addressing.

There were posters that were saying the loss of Flo would not hurt the team and would actually be an upgrade. Obviously, not true.

However, I will say that at the time of Flo's injury, you couldn't honestly consider this team "non-playoff" could you?

I agree losing Flo hurt. Dallas was already providing some help to Petitti and when Flo went down Tucker needed as much help as what the rookie was getting which put even more pressure on the line and TE.

 

[Nors]

Going into the season counting on Petitti and Tucker Was a mistake. We should hav had a serviceable Vet brought in. On Flo, I thought Tucker would not be a huge drop off. Late in the season he was.

I'm hoping Petitti has a year to get stronger, in shape and heal. He did play dinged most of the season.

 

[Kilyin]

I don't care for statistics like this. You can't just throw out a number that is floating in space and expect it to be meaningful. Where is the context?

You can say "half came through the tackles" but the data you present are limited -- why? Because we have no idea what the averages are for OT's throughout the league -- if tackles usually give up say 80% of a team's sacks and our guys only gave up 50% that might suggest that our tackles are not so great -- but that the middle of the line is a bigger problem.

If you can point out a pair of Offensive Tackles that gave up more sacks combined than ours this year, I'll eat my computer piece by piece.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Going into the season counting on Petitti and Tucker Was a mistake. We should hav had a serviceable Vet brought in. On Flo, I thought Tucker would not be a huge drop off. Late in the season he was.

I'm hoping Petitti has a year to get stronger, in shape and heal. He did play dinged most of the season.

I agree that BP dropped the ball on getting a backup but he was also under the assumption Rogers wouldn't wimp out. The only decent vet that was available was Verba and he wanted too much money and is a headcase. Hopefully we go in to the next season with a better backup plan.

 

[Yeagermeister]

If you can point out a pair of Offensive Tackles that gave up more sacks combined than ours this year, I'll eat my computer piece by piece.

I would say that looking in Houston might be a good place to start.

 

[Kilyin]

I would say that looking in Houston might be a good place to start.

Already did, none of them are even close.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Already did, none of them are even close.

No shocker :

 

[Alexander]

Already did, none of them are even close.

You have to be fair.

Houston released Victor Riley before the season was over.

 

[Alexander]

I agree that BP dropped the ball on getting a backup but he was also under the assumption Rogers wouldn't wimp out.

That's wasn't the smartest assumption now was it?

Rogers wasn't exactly Captain Courageous his first washout season either.

To put it bluntly, we entered the season with our pants down around our ankles ready to kiss our own backsides goodbye as far as right tackle was concerned.

We didn't try in free agency as we foolishly assumed Rivera would make anybody we threw over there better. Another brutally hard lesson learned.

 

[Nors]

We went into season $5M under cap. Why? And left FS, OT wide open for this......

 

[Yeagermeister]

That's wasn't the smartest assumption now was it?

Rogers wasn't exactly Captain Courageous his first washout season either.

To put it bluntly, we entered the season with our pants down around our ankles ready to kiss our own backsides goodbye as far as right tackle was concerned.

We didn't try in free agency as we foolishly assumed Rivera would make anybody we threw over there better. Another brutally hard lesson learned.

In hindsight I can't argue that.

 

[junk]

We went into season $5M under cap. Why? And left FS, OT wide open for this......

At some point, there just aren't any guys to sign?

Who was available that would have been a major upgrade at either position? (Don't say Law). Gragg, maybe.

So are you better off going with the vet or seeing what the young guy has and having extra cap space next year?

How many young, talented developmental guys do you cut to keep old vets with no upside for backup?

These are the questions that get GMs fired.

 

[Nors]

There were plenty of options but we passed. Kinda baffling we left the $ on the table. FS/RT was as obious a hole to us as CB was the year before.

Thats the big picture issue I have with BP/JJ - Why not address that and leave /$$$ on Cap table? Cost us playoffs candidly this year.

 

[Sarge]

Tucker and by extension Dallas' OL depth will be better in '06 than he/they were at the start of '05 and I really think '06 could be something special.

From the worst OL in the league in 2005, to being something special in 2006?

Explain please.

I can see being somewhat better based on the playing time some of these guys got this year, but "something special in 2006?"

How so?

 

[Kilyin]

50 sacks counting the one on the botched Barber pass. Petitti and Tucker were responsible for 26, Flozell for 2. That's 28 sacks through our Turnstiles. Might be a new record.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

From the worst OL in the league in 2005, to being something special in 2006?

Explain please.

I can see being somewhat better based on the playing time some of these guys got this year, but "something special in 2006?"

How so?

I don't think the line will be "special" in '06, but I think they'll be more than adequate. Add a healthy Jones and experienced Barber and I think the team will be special, ie. a serious Super Bowl contender (especially if Bledsoe isn't a starter in Dallas to blow it in the end) with the way the defense is capable of playing.

 

[junk]

There were plenty of options but we passed. Kinda baffling we left the $ on the table. FS/RT was as obious a hole to us as CB was the year before.

Thats the big picture issue I have with BP/JJ - Why not address that and leave /$$$ on Cap table? Cost us playoffs candidly this year.

Well, they should have signed Dwight Smith. I totally agree. However, other than him and perhaps Dexter Jackson, there really wasn't much out there in the way of safeties.

RT? Scott Gragg? Verba? Pickings were slim there as well.

I wouldn't say there were "plenty of options".

FS play didn't cost the team a postseason berth anyway IMO. Pass rush and run defense were bigger issues. Why weren't some 3-4 linebackers signed?