T'Vondre Sweat

[big dog cowboy]

Would be a great pick in 2024 if we didn't already waste a 1st rounder on Mazi

Why is that a wasted pick?

 

[Beaker42]

Good player and fits a need. I'm just never a fan of spending a 1st round pick on an older player. Sweat played 5 years at Texas and will be 23 by the time training camp starts.

Crazy good athlete for a man his size.

It would be a weird for a team who pretended like 1Tech's were irrelevant for the past decade to suddenly spend back-to-back 1st rounders on 1Techs.

We need him but it will depend on who's there at 26.

 

[Beaker42]

Why is that a wasted pick?

As of now it's certainly looking that way. Kid needs to work hard and improve.

 

[Hardline]

As of now it's certainly looking that way. Kid needs to work hard and improve.

Sweat is more NFL ready right now than Mazi is.

 

[stilltheguru]

Sweat is more NFL ready right now than Mazi is.

He's played 5 years of college. Let's hope he's more nfl ready at that point.

 

[cnuball21]

I like him as a prospect but DTs just aren’t traditionally good year 1.

Bring Hanks back and sign another FA Hanks type. Still good to draft this kid if he’s close to BPA.

 

[Hardline]

I like him as a prospect but DTs just aren’t traditionally good year 1.

Bring Hanks back and sign another FA Hanks type. Still good to draft this kid if he’s close to BPA.

You look at drafts long term. Not just in year one.

 

[Croomraider]

Sweat does seem like the miracle answer for this team and I've never wanted a DT in round 1.
This guy instantly makes your defense better. If Mazi is in development and Sweat doesn't
need development the Dallas D with Diggs and Overshown back would be insane. We need
a tackling LB as well. Can't believe I'm not pitching wideouts but our D needs a boost ASAP!

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

This thread is relevant again.

He'd still be a bad pick for the Cowboys in the first round. So it's relevant in that regard.

 

[Hardline]

He'd still be a bad pick for the Cowboys in the first round. So it's relevant in that regard.

He would be a perfect pick. And would be justified in taking him. He is exactly what we need .
There is no case that can be made against it.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

He would be a perfect pick. And would be justified in taking him. He is exactly what we need .

Nope.

They need passrushers and OL. He solves absolutely nothing for this team.

 

[Hardline]

Nope.

They need passrushers and OL. He solves absolutely nothing for this team.

He solves the rushing game against us.
We have pass rushers.
There isn't an argument against it.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

He solves the rushing game against us.
We have pass rushers.
There isn't an argument against it.

No he doesn't.
We have 2.

The argument is that players like him are taken in the first round every single year, and they never matter. Jordan Davis, Derrick Brown...the list goes on and on.

 

[Hardline]

No he doesn't.
We have 2.

The argument is that players like him are taken in the first round every single year, and they never matter. Jordan Davis, Derrick Brown...the list goes on and on.

You obviously have no clue about Sweat. He is going to be a monster run stopper, pocket collapsing DT and he is a pass rusher. Trust me. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You want a pass rusher? He is one.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You obviously have no clue about Sweat. He is going to be a monster run stopper, pocket collapsing DT and he is a pass rusher. Trust me. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You want a pass rusher? He is one.

These players do not exist in the NFL.

He wasn't a prolific passrusher in college as an overage player, why would I expect him to be in the NFL? Guy wasn't even the best DT rusher on his own team.


Sorry, but you're wrong. He's a good player but has a skillset that is mostly irrelevant in the NFL. For Dallas, he does not solve the fact that they can't defend against misdirection or set edges with any consistency. He's not going to be explosive enough to rush the passer, just like Davis and Brown.

 

[Hardline]

These players do not exist in the NFL.

He wasn't a prolific passrusher in college as an overage player, why would I expect him to be in the NFL? Guy wasn't even the best DT rusher on his own team.


Sorry, but you're wrong. He's a good player but has a skillset that is mostly irrelevant in the NFL. For Dallas, he does not solve the fact that they can't defend against misdirection or set edges with any consistency. He's not going to be explosive enough to rush the passer, just like Davis and Brown.

You can downplay the DT position all you want but me and the league disagree. Sweat eats up double and triple teams that freed up Byron Murphy. I am a die hard Longhorns fan and know them like the back of my hand. You are dead wrong. Sweat solves 3 issues. Run stopper,pocket collapser and pass rusher. Go back and look at game tape not youtube highlights.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You can downplay the DT position all you want but me and the league disagree. Sweat eats up double and triple teams that freed up Byron Murphy. I am a die hard Longhorns fan and know them like the back of my hand. You are dead wrong. Sweat solves 3 issues. Run stopper,pocket collapser and pass rusher. Go back and look at game tape not youtube highlights.

I know, which is why you overrate them all.

He does not solve any of them. There is no precedent in the current NFL that suggests he is this player you want him to be.

I know what he does. Most of it doesn't translate to being an effective player in the NFL worth a first-round pick. At his weight, he won't be a 3-down player, and he does not solve the things the Cowboys struggle with. He simply doesn't.

 

[KingintheNorth]

NFL teams run the ball about 42% of the time.

Mazi and Sweat would most likely rotate 1Tech snaps, apart from goal line and 3rd/4th and short plays.

We definitely should spend 1st round picks back-to-back years on guys who are likely to play 21 to 25% of available defensive snaps. That seems like the proper approach to using our most valuable asset.

 

[Beaker42]

I like him as a prospect but DTs just aren’t traditionally good year 1.

Bring Hanks back and sign another FA Hanks type. Still good to draft this kid if he’s close to BPA.

Time to move on from Hankins and find someone better.

 

[stilltheguru]

No he doesn't.
We have 2.

The argument is that players like him are taken in the first round every single year, and they never matter. Jordan Davis, Derrick Brown...the list goes on and on.

It's funny that he thinks a rookie dt will solve our run defense. The chances of that around around 1 percent