Brees played very well the season before he was released, but the Chargers already had their guy in Rivers.
you gave 2 different philosophies of team building in your original post. Im asking you to give me an example of 1 team that uses your 2nd philosophy of not signing QBs to a 2nd deal. My argument is that there is no such team using your philosophy. Teams just decide a qb isnt the guy and dont keep him, but they damn sure dont let a guy go that they do believe is the guy because they dont want the qb to be making big money.
I dont care either way about Kaep...im just saying that example does not support Bobs 2nd philosophy of roster building in his original post.
like I said, it wasnt his play it was that shoulder injury. Remember the Dolphins wanted him but passed after his physical, if I remember correctly.
If anything, teams overkeep QBs just in case. Tanehill is a great example of that.
the Dolphins were hoping he was the guy but didnt he have serious injuries in back to back seasons while on a rookie deal? He went to Titans and actually played well.
Ok…well first of all, I’m not trying to “win” an argument. I was just pointing out that the two teams in the SB were built in different ways that I found interesting. The “rookie deal” QB philosophy worked with Russell Wilson in Sea before he got paid, Mahomes’ first SB win before he got paid, and almost worked with Burrows and Hurts before they get paid in filly and Cincy.
Your second model certainley speaks to "When they make the all in call" and to me thats legit as we jacked around with Dak's rookie contract when most knew the FO was going to give him a 2nd contract. I get what your saying basically its.
He wasn't as good as the perception, though he did a great bus driver type job.
Just stop. He wasn't a bus driver. Those offenses required precision and timing that very few QBs today would be able to match because teams were actually allowed defend in that era.
Good points, the team really screwed the pooch at the WR position, just a massive blunder all the way around.
Lamb replaced Cooper's production. In fact, he was slightly better. The Cowboys had about 1800 yards rushing between Zeke and Pollard. Another 1000 yards between Shultz and Brown. 3 first round draft picks on the O-line, one 3rd and one 4th. What stands out on offense? 15 interceptions in 12 games.
When Lamb was covered, the passing game was crap. Shultz is an average at best TE and Brown has hands of stone.
Turn that around and answer how many of these QB's that won on their expensive second contracts had won it all in their Rookie Deals.....the argument is that if the QB hasnt proved himself when he's young and cheap, he's unlikely to do it when he's become expensive. Second Contracts are successful when you're certain that that QB can overcome the CAP restricted roster.
Whether Hurts is elite is irrelevant, it's how integral he is to the success for the team. The benefit he has is that he's proved that by getting to a SB, playing well (whilst coming back from an injury). The question for their FO is whether they can continue at that level when existing vets start retiring and they cant afford to replace them.
I don't know, they did with Wentz. The difference is FO outlook, Eagles are a lot more progressive where we are rose tinted love for 'our guys'.
Good points.
give me a break.. He threw play action slants and outs off the best run game in the business, guys do that all day long here.
The overwhelming majority of SB winning QBs since the cap came into play in what, 1995 have not been on rookie deals. Drew brees, Rodgers, Payton, Favre, Rodgers, Eli, ... the only one I can think of is Russel Wilson... I guess you could count Brady since I think his 1st title was on a rookie deal, but he won a few more not on a rookie deal.
Rothlisberger
