Two Telling Stats About Dak

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Actually, quite a few teams still use the WCO. The 49’ers, Rams, Chiefs, Dolphins are a few of the teams that still adhere to its principles. The difference is simply those coaches know how to adapt to modern times - the 4 teams I just listed are the Top 4 teams in terms of using pre-snap motion. I don’t think people understand just how important moving guys BEFORE the snap HELPS an offense…and can confuse the D. Notice how Dallas only TD last week came when the WR went in motion before the snap creating a natural advantage against the defend? Makes it easier for the receiver to beat the press…
Exactly!
 

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Other teams have cut a QB with cap hits that big and done just fine. Philadelphia with Wentz and Los Angeles with Jared Goff are two recents off the top of my head. On top of that we have two other QBs already under contract (with possibly a rookie to compete with them) so its not like you would release him without the cost of the position mostly under contract and accounted for next year already. So, if that is the route they wish to go l that should not be a reason no to.

If they wanted to roll with Lance next year I am all for the attempt. The problem for the last 15 years is that this team is too mediocre (year after year) for high draft picks to rebuild, but not good enough to advance through the playoffs. If you aren't going to advance forward at some point you need to hit the bottom to rebuild.

Edit: don't take my last paragraph above as me wishing for them to lose. I do not. But at some point something new has to happen to propel it forward. If that is falling back a step or two, so be it (IMO of course).
I don't remember what Jared Goff's dead cap was. He was traded. Wentz did indeed have a big dead cap, somewhere in the 30s or 40s? Just for 1 year. For us it would be two years.

Seriously now. Do you see the Cowboys releasing Dak after this season?
 

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Unnamed in this case is the execs, scouts, and coaches for ALL 32 teams taken as an average. Then again you think wins are a QB stat and there is nothing more low football IQ than that.
When you QB seems to melt under the slightest of pressure and plays at his worst against real competition I think it's fair to say that he's had a major hand in that record.
 

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Magic Mike preached effectiveness of the run game yet they didn’t invest in an every down back this offseason. It’s no secret how a good ground attack opens up the offense, just look at SF. Another offseason where Dallas misjudged what they have and made poor personnel decisions. Shocked, aren’t we?
 

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No issues if your point is you don’t think dak is good at all or you wanna move on- fair takes whether people disagree or not. Historically however when viewing daks career as a whole, turnovers haven’t been an issue. Using last year to substantiate your opinions is huge recency bias.

Thinking he’s not good enough is one thing, painting him as this career turnover machine isn’t completely accurate because it makes you cherry picks years to support the argument instead of looking in totality- which to me always leads to a biased take either positive or negative.
 

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No issues if your point is you don’t think dak is good at all or you wanna move on- fair takes whether people disagree or not. Historically however when viewing daks career as a whole, turnovers haven’t been an issue. Using last year to substantiate your opinions is huge recency bias.

Thinking he’s not good enough is one thing, painting him as this career turnover machine isn’t completely accurate because it makes you cherry picks years to support the argument instead of looking in totality- which to me always leads to a biased take either positive or negative.
Well, if he led the league last year in only 12-13 games and it's already a problem this year, that's a bad sign. He's regressing, not improving it seems.
 

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Since the start of the 22 season, even missing five games, he has the most picks in the NFL. On top of that he is 25th in the league in yards per attempt.

That means the coaching staff continues to dumb down the offense giving him high percentage pass attempts and he's still been a turnover machine.

Here is what's really puzzling, Pollard only had eight rushing attempts against the niners. Granted we were playing from behind but I just don't get this offense at all, you have a struggling QB and you totally abandon the run. If the team is committed to Dak longer than this season then there is literally no need to have a receiver like Lamb, trade the guy, save the salary and stock up on some picks. His talents are completely wasted in this offense and with this QB. McCarthy is losing the team, Dak is losing the team and it shows.

There is no easy way out of this current mess but to deny it's a mess only prolongs the climb out of it.
hi @khiladi nice try. but its so obvious its you. the grammer and word usage gives it away.

is this one of your 4 burner accounts?
 

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Like those who whine and complain about the scheme and wrs not getting separation/ open… right ?
Same thing Michael Irvin, Kurt Warner, Richard Sherman, Chris Simms and several other ex-players said was wrong.

Are you saying they are wrong?
 

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everyone is fast, then we have a slow QB that tries to take off and run, and he's been chased down by DL guys that are heavier than him, but are quick!
Dak has lost a lot of foot speed. Early in his career he outran defensive linemen. Now, he can't. This is why it drive me crazy that he does not just throw the ball out of bounds instead of taking the sack and the hit. You look at the best QBs, like Rodgers and Brady. Both had no problem just throwing the ball out of bounds on 3rd down and punting. Obviously, when the game is desperate you have to try to make a play, but Dak holds the ball all the time.
 

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Same thing Michael Irvin, Kurt Warner, Richard Sherman, Chris Simms and several other ex-players said was wrong.

Are you saying they are wrong?
Meh, those dudes are late to the party, I was calling out MM offense in the first 2 weeks.

Its very easy to see since week 1 Dak is not comfortable in this O and he's a tic slow on some throws.

I've been in the middle with Dak mostly and he might have regressed but MM is not helping.
 

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Since the start of the 22 season, even missing five games, he has the most picks in the NFL. On top of that he is 25th in the league in yards per attempt.

That means the coaching staff continues to dumb down the offense giving him high percentage pass attempts and he's still been a turnover machine.

Here is what's really puzzling, Pollard only had eight rushing attempts against the niners. Granted we were playing from behind but I just don't get this offense at all, you have a struggling QB and you totally abandon the run. If the team is committed to Dak longer than this season then there is literally no need to have a receiver like Lamb, trade the guy, save the salary and stock up on some picks. His talents are completely wasted in this offense and with this QB. McCarthy is losing the team, Dak is losing the team and it shows.

There is no easy way out of this current mess but to deny it's a mess only prolongs the climb out of it.
Dink and Dunk opps another T/O Dakko is a great Leader!!!! :muttley:
 

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Defenses are filled with smaller and faster players these days. They know we aren't going deep so they can all creep up towards the line. They are stopping the shorter passes and makes it easier to stop the run.

The game is different from when the WCO was first invented. There's a reason teams aren't running it.
Exactly. Against this all short scheme, teams can literally stack the box and effectively be stopping the run and pass.

The NFL has passed Mike by as an OC and it is glaringly obvious.
 

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Unnamed in this case is the execs, scouts, and coaches for ALL 32 teams taken as an average. Then again you think wins are a QB stat and there is nothing more low football IQ than that.
There is something lower football IQ than that - thinking that wins aren't a QB stat when the game is designed and built that way as the QB is by far the most important position on an NFL team.

You don't win in this league very often without a great QB.
 

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Since the start of the 22 season, even missing five games, he has the most picks in the NFL. On top of that he is 25th in the league in yards per attempt.

That means the coaching staff continues to dumb down the offense giving him high percentage pass attempts and he's still been a turnover machine.

Here is what's really puzzling, Pollard only had eight rushing attempts against the niners. Granted we were playing from behind but I just don't get this offense at all, you have a struggling QB and you totally abandon the run. If the team is committed to Dak longer than this season then there is literally no need to have a receiver like Lamb, trade the guy, save the salary and stock up on some picks. His talents are completely wasted in this offense and with this QB. McCarthy is losing the team, Dak is losing the team and it shows.

There is no easy way out of this current mess but to deny it's a mess only prolongs the climb out of it.
Gotta find someone to pickup dak’s contract… *cough jets?
 

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It really has a lot to do with dumb play calling.

Running double slants on the short hash?
double slants are fine and the right call on the plays Warner broke down..its the way the routes were run that sucked..again i dont know if thats MM or the WR just not knowing how to run them.
 

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No issues if your point is you don’t think dak is good at all or you wanna move on- fair takes whether people disagree or not. Historically however when viewing daks career as a whole, turnovers haven’t been an issue. Using last year to substantiate your opinions is huge recency bias.

Thinking he’s not good enough is one thing, painting him as this career turnover machine isn’t completely accurate because it makes you cherry picks years to support the argument instead of looking in totality- which to me always leads to a biased take either positive or negative.
I don’t understand your take, even the best QBs regress at some point, look at Aikman in his his final two seasons. Regardless I don’t care what Dak did six years ago, I care about what his abilities are today, call it recency bias if you want but it is what it is.

Dak looks really bad this year, lost even. He was never that great with accuracy but it’s managed to get worse. His deep balls are just flailing ducks at this point, his reads are bad and his mobility is gone. I honestly can’t think of one thing he’s good at at this point.
 
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