Tyler Guyton keeps developing

[big dog cowboy]

Once again JJ took a player who didn't deserve a 1st rd rating.

The Cowboys picked him at 28. Any player they took there wouldn't have had a 1st round grade.

That is true with every team and every pick that late in the 1st round every single year.

I'm not trying to defend JJ, but lets be honest about how the draft works.

 

[Kingofholland]

right ,

we can all agree he's struggling he's inconsistent too many penalties.... however, all the haters or the internet experts think this guy is going to be a bust compare him to Mazi as 1st round miss, those casuals need to step back, they obviously don't understand the game of football if they think that .... i mean the worst thing that can happen to Guyton's career is him become a right tackle, replace Steele either way he's a keeper IMHO, Now Bebee is future all pro he a TS next to each other is going to be great for years..

Now what do we do for martin?


i said this before

i'm not sure why the coaches didn't switch the offensive line around as soon as Guyton came back after missing that game and bye week come our with Tyler-Bass-Coop-Martin-Guyton lineup. i like that lineup , maybe Daks still standing and we are 5-4 vs 4-5??

Maybe next year we find another option or move Guyton back than move Bass to RG when martin leaves but anything besides watching our offense struggle over the inconsistency's and constant penalty's with this lineup.

Agree, different player but I think back to Flozell Adams the guy had his ups and downs earlier in his career then he developed into a very good tackle. So hopefully Guyton continues to learn and grow too.

Also, I know our blocking hasn't been good this year, but I'm skeptical about our blocking scheme and coaching. Continually think we need a new fresh coaching perspective.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Let's see him vs. Filthy... a big challenge, and we are an awful Home team right now. Let alone Rush at QB

 

[blueblood70]

Agree, different player but I think back to Flozell Adams the guy had his ups and downs earlier in his career then he developed into a very good tackle. So hopefully Guyton continues to learn and grow too.

Also, I know our blocking hasn't been good this year, but I'm skeptical about our blocking scheme and coaching. Continually think we need a new fresh coaching perspective.

I think that'd be the only poll around here that would be at 100% of those replace the entire coaching staff all of them I don't wanna hear about al Harris we just need to purge this entire staff and start over...

 

[Bobhaze]

He gets a full off season in the weight room and training/practicing and he will be so much better next year.

Guyton should be better next year. Jumping from playing T in college football where just your physical skills are usually enough to let you play well is light years different than facing great NFL players. At times this year, Guyton looks lost and seems to struggle with adjusting to the NFL game. Most rookies do.

TG has enormous upside. He is a very gifted athlete. But in the NFL being gifted is not enough. Talent must be combined with a strong work ethic, commitment to taking care of the body and being focused at all times on learning how to get better.

I‘m optimistic about Guyton, but the idea that he was just going to be a “plug and play” as an immediate impact player at the hardest position on the OL was a fan dream. I still believe Guyton can be very good. He just needs to exhibit he is learning and that his commitment to improve is as good as his raw talent.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I really like this pick and Beebe . Total upgrade of the line . Now a new position coach plus a season of workouts need to see a jump in improvement next season .

I’m not sold on Steele I think Dallas needs to look at Richards some as they fall further out of contention .

Total upgrade?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He gets a full off season in the weight room and training/practicing and he will be so much better next year.

minimum 20% of the snaps, tells me probably most of them are not starting and seeing spot duties for whatever reason...meaning they weren't good enough to start.

where does he rank among rookies who are starting and have played majority of the snaps...the rankings I see are not very impressive.

 

[blueblood70]

minimum 20% of the snaps, tells me probably most of them are not starting and seeing spot duties for whatever reason...meaning they weren't good enough to start.

where does he rank among rookies who are starting and have played majority of the snaps...the rankings I see are not very impressive.

That makes zero sense,

literally the same group are ALL in the rankings...

so if there are players who are starting as much or more as rookies and at the same positions, they're all ranked in that same ranking therefore they're the ones who are ahead of him...

None of what you said makes sense the fact that they're not good enough to start meaning Guyton is already better than them, because he is good enough to start the hardest position on the offensive line and they're ranking the entire offensive line of rookies and he's still coming out in the top 10.. we watched him play he might be inconsistent, but the man is playing very well for being one of the toughest positions in the whole entire game of football to transition to or play for that matter.

He's having problems with the speed rushers, mostly the guys that can really get off the edge, and I saw Tyler Smith I even saw tyron Smith ,and I've seen some other players have to struggle with those types early on, you have to figure out how to get that first back step to be quicker without getting flagged they're looking at that a lot thanks to the eagles now getting that early jump being lined up too far in the backfield but his struggles is mostly just against the fastest and the best pass rushers,

the other ones he's handling very well he did pretty good game one against miles Garrett and if you look at the fact that he's injured as well you have to factor all this in this ranking is still the same they put everybody in the therefore your answer's already there there are 9 rookies ahead of him that are playing better they have to be playing in at the similar positions but I bet if you rank all just the left tackles who are rookies who are playing left tackle this year he's ranked even higher he's not great he's still growing but he's going to be the starter here whether it's at right tackle or left tackle of the future..

 

[RonWashington]

Total upgrade?

Tyron older and injured often . Edoga hasn’t stayed healthy since he came here and yes Guyton is better then Steele Richards Waletzco . Who would you rather have . A young improving mammoth LT or any of the 5 others mentioned .

And Beebe is certainly an upgrade over the previous center .

 

[Whirlwin]

The only problem I have with him, penalties. But if he gets stronger, he might not have to hold.

 

[d_cowboy31]

Since Week 8?? lol what a deceiving stat. That's two games and one of them was against the worst pass rush in the league (Atlanta).

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Tyron older and injured often . Edoga hasn’t stayed healthy since he came here and yes Guyton is better then Steele Richards Waletzco . Who would you rather have . A young improving mammoth LT or any of the 5 others mentioned .

And Beebe is certainly an upgrade over the previous center .

Yet the results are worse. I don’t get the Tyron and Biadiz slander.

 

[MarkP88]

He gets a full off season in the weight room and training/practicing and he will be so much better next year.

Yep, not worried about him. It was crazy for anyone to think he was going to set the world on fire his first year. He needs development. But he'll get there. Same with Beebe. The rest of this year's class...I have my doubts.

Not that it matters, ultimately. This team is run by imbeciles who will never capitalize on any talent they hit on.

 

[RonWashington]

Yet the results are worse. I don’t get the Tyron and Biadiz slander.

“ slander “ oh boy you give your opinion and the readers start legal terminology. As bad as people who say “ you hate “ fill in the blank players name . It sounds unhinged .

If you don’t think Guyton & Beebe are an investment in upgrading an OL over often injured players and a Center who thankfully wasn’t given a second contract then I don’t know what to tell you .

Would anyone rather have Tyron Smith at this stage of his career or Edoga over Guyton and Biadasz over Beebe than you want the past . I want a younger upside future .

 

[gtb1943]

Cooper is right now as good as Biadasz was and will get better. Not as good as TB in technique but is clearly stronger which was TB's problem
Tyler is having penalties NOT because he is week because he is not, its because he does not have the techniques down yet.
That is also the reasons he is getting beat. He has the physical strength and quickness but HE IS RAW.
also, and lets be clear about this, the more experience you get the more you learn how to hold without getting caught.

 

[RonWashington]

Cooper is right now as good as Biadasz was and will get better. Not as good as TB in technique but is clearly stronger which was TB's problem
Tyler is having penalties NOT because he is week because he is not, its because he does not have the techniques down yet.
That is also the reasons he is getting beat. He has the physical strength and quickness but HE IS RAW.
also, and lets be clear about this, the more experience you get the more you learn how to hold without getting caught.

Exactly , upside over the past

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

“ slander “ oh boy you give your opinion and the readers start legal terminology. As bad as people who say “ you hate “ fill in the blank players name . It sounds unhinged .

If you don’t think Guyton & Beebe are an investment in upgrading an OL over often injured players and a Center who thankfully wasn’t given a second contract then I don’t know what to tell you .

Would anyone rather have Tyron Smith at this stage of his career or Edoga over Guyton and Biadasz over Beebe than you want the past . I want a younger upside future .

Haha I didn’t mean it critically or you specifically….i do see a lot of Biadiz….”hate” lol. He wasn’t nearly as bad as people made him out to be. He was a legit starter.

We are banking on the upside of these guys. I’m not saying they suck. What I’m saying is there’s no way to say these rookies are better than a Pro Bowler and an All Pro.
Upside is great for youth. This was an All In year though. Wasting prime years is not wise.

 

[RonWashington]

Haha I didn’t mean it critically or you specifically….i do see a lot of Biadiz….”hate” lol. He wasn’t nearly as bad as people made him out to be. He was a legit starter.

We are banking on the upside of these guys. I’m not saying they suck. What I’m saying is there’s no way to say these rookies are better than a Pro Bowler and an All Pro.
Upside is great for youth. This was an All In year though. Wasting prime years is not wise.

77 past his prime. At some point you got to move on get younger .

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

77 past his prime. At some point you got to move on get younger .

You do. You also have replacements ready to take over and they didn’t. Guyton was a project.

 

[pancakeman]

He gets a full off season in the weight room and training/practicing and he will be so much better next year.

Top 10 sounds good, but how many total *rookie* offensive linemen with qualifying number of snaps are there?