Tyree Hill uncooperative during traffic stop

Rockport said:
It’s really this simple. A Cop out on the beat is always on alert when pulling someone over. They have to be prepared for anything and are therefore very stressed. If you show them respect right off, then they get less and less tense and on edge. It’s a very stressful job many donot seem to understand.
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yup i completely agree - and unfortunately, there are far too many out there that get brainwashed by media bias to understand that the extreme cases are not the norm cases
 
Jipper said:
yup i completely agree - and unfortunately, there are far too many out there that get brainwashed by media bias to understand that the extreme cases are not the norm cases
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Some just feel they’re above the law.
 
Rockport said:
Some just feel they’re above the law.
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yes, and its happening more and more with the younger generation when they see examples of celebrities that give off the indication that this is how to behave. We need lawful behavior, we need law enforcement and we need balance between protecting the citizens and enforcing the laws the right way - that is what makes the job of being a cop so very difficult. Also the fact that a few edge cases get so much media focus that it shifts the view on the whole makes it continuously more and more difficult for them to operate safely and effectively.

Look at the recent example of Scottie Scheffler's arrest and how he behaved. The evidence in that one demonstrates that a big misunderstanding led to the cop overreacting - as the charges were ultimatly dropped with prejudice because all the evidence corroborated what Scheffler was stating. However, what i want to call to light is how Scheffler conducted himself after the arrest and the statements he made - he did everything he could to put a positive spin on in to not disparage the officers and stuck to the story that the truth would come out in the evidence.

That is an example of police overreaction but a citizen doing the best they can to help mitigate the escalation. Was the cop wrong? yes - did Scheffler have a part in the misunderstanding that led to it - 100%, but i was impressed at how he handled the events post.

If Hill would have taken the same type of approach it would have had a more positive impact on showing an example vs trying to be the face of a victim example - which is what it seems like.
 
Rockport said:
It’s really this simple. A Cop out on the beat is always on alert when pulling someone over. They have to be prepared for anything and are therefore very stressed. If you show them respect right off, then they get less and less tense and on edge. It’s a very stressful job many donot seem to understand.
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To be honest I could care less how stressful their job is. Remember, they picked the job the job did not pick them plus they also are getting paid with my money, taxpayer money. They are not volunteering anything. That being said I am always respectful, but it’s not required according to the SC.
 
Jipper said:
well in all fairness, those who have complied have certainly faired better than those who have not. Dont give a cop a reason, best rule of thumb, do as asked and dont give a reason to escalate.
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Dude, check your history. Many many groups of humans throughout history that complied wish that they did not.
 
rags747 said:
To be honest I could care less how stressful their job is. Remember, they picked the job the job did not pick them plus they also are getting paid with my money, taxpayer money. They are not volunteering anything. That being said I am always respectful, but it’s not required according to the SC.
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The SC also doesn’t stop someone from being a complete idiot. Not calling anyone that, but just to shut down your ridiculous argument. And I’m not surprised you could care less how stressful their job is.
 
rags747 said:
Dude, check your history. Many many groups of humans throughout history that complied wish that they did not.
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You are making ambiguous comments asserting that complying with a police officer does not lesson the chance of a negative escalation- I think you need to rethink your assertions before making stupid comments.

There's an exponentially better chance at a better outcome by complying during a traffic stop vs non compliance or being combative.

If you don't understand that then you have some big issues and I hope you don't behave in a manner during your next traffic stop that gets you into a bad situation
 
Rockport said:
The SC also doesn’t stop someone from being a complete idiot. Not calling anyone that, but just to shut down your ridiculous argument. And I’m not surprised you could care less how stressful their job is.
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It's just silly and he wants to argue
 
Rockport said:
I hope he gets pulled over, doesn’t comply and end up in jail. Wake his *** up.
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Exactly - one way to settle the discussion

He should find a very densely populated residential area, drive 60 in a 40, get pulled over, not comply and report back on the outcome!
 
rags747 said:
To be honest I could care less how stressful their job is. Remember, they picked the job the job did not pick them plus they also are getting paid with my money, taxpayer money. They are not volunteering anything. That being said I am always respectful, but it’s not required according to the SC.
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You're such a joke, dude. Did some cope get lippy with you when he took some weed from you at one point? You're completely out of your depth here.
 
Rockport said:
I hope he gets pulled over, doesn’t comply and end up in jail. Wake his *** up.
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Reading comprehension not your strength?! What did I say above? How about this, That being said I am always respectful!! Capiche?
 
rags747 said:
To be honest I could care less how stressful their job is. Remember, they picked the job the job did not pick them plus they also are getting paid with my money, taxpayer money. They are not volunteering anything. That being said I am always respectful, but it’s not required according to the SC.
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so basically you think cops should be serfs

they are paid and thus abuse them all you want

nice to know
 
Anyone who makes arguments like Rags does should be forced to sit and watch hours of footage and listen to police scanners of the crap they have to deal with on a daily basis. You don't need to watch the show COPS anymore, you can easily find live police chases and busts online. The fact that police don't draw their weapons or get rough with suspects more often is a miracle.

They aren't patrolling your low crime, high trust suburbs. They are patrolling neighborhoods and streets that might as well be classified as third world equivalences. The psyche of Us police officers will never be the same after we allowed many cities to devolve into what they are now.
 
rags747 said:
WRONG! There is absolutely no law that says u must be respectful to the police, Supreme Court has many rulings in regards to this. Cops need to do their job with a SMILE!
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True, but when you're calm and listen, traffic stops don't usually go like that. If he had just left his window down no one would have likely heard anything about him getting pulled over.
 
What is wrong with you people. Hill was uncooperative. Nothing would suggest that he was anything more than a privileged jerk, He put the window up and called his people. That's what multi-millionaires do and get away with.

I wonder why Hill was treated differently.
 
AbeBeta said:
What is wrong with you people. Hill was uncooperative. Nothing would suggest that he was anything more than a privileged jerk, He put the window up and called his people. That's what multi-millionaires do and get away with.

I wonder why Hill was treated differently.
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....so whichever mod removed my post, why was mine removed and not this one? I didn't start the race baiting. He did.

Be consistent.
 
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