Tyron Smith against Virginia (Video)

[realtick]

Lol, oh the irony. I’m supposedly making “assumptive remarks.”

That’s rich.

The entirety of your original post (and this one) which I originally responded to is one assumption after another and based off of nothing more than what you think will happen and what you want to happen.

1) He could be, not right away though and certainly not for the 9th overall pick. Rather trade the 2nd up than the 1st down to get our RT.

Lol, case in point; thanks for giving me your opinion and what you think the Cowboys should do.

Next...

2) Because we don't get a top 10 shot often and there is a very good chance we can draft a stud this year in those picks. Not a potential player, a legitimate thoroughbred. This team is built to win now if we can get a couple starters out of this draft and 1 or 2 more out of FA. We don't need a boat load of picks, we need quality, not quantity. We can get that RT need taken care of in the bottom of the 1st, early 2nd.

You ever hear of a guy called Stephen Jones? Yah, well Calvin Watkins who is an avid reporter on this team has reported in talking to Stephen Jones that he believe we need to go BPA with the 9th overall pick and not trade down.

I guess you hold more weight than what Stephen Jones does. Don't even bother in using the draft smoke screen garbage to substantiate your approach over Stephen Jones'. Especially when you are making assumptive remarks the way you are about my posts.

Lol, ever heard of a guy named Jerry Jones? Here's what he said last week:


"Jones, speaking at the NFL Annual Meeting in New Orleans, said the Cowboys aren't sure what they'll do with the pick in next month's draft, though he and coach Jason Garrett have said the team's needs include both lines and the secondary.

"I've already had the opportunity to discuss and been approached by two separate clubs," Jones told the Star-Telegram. "It certainly enhances the value of that ninth pick because not only are we going to have a player that I think will make a difference for us now, we really have the opportunity to move down and are going to have that opportunity."

http://tinyurl.com/66sez2z

BTW, feel free to post the link to Calvin "the avid writer" Watkins, so we can read it for ourselves.

Beyond that, you're simply giving me your opinion of what you think will happen and also what you want to happen.

Now I have no idea what the Cowboys will end up doing, especially because the draft hasn't unfolded yet. Funny thing is you want to act as if you do.

Don't worry, everything will be substantiated in what I say, unlike your opinion based rational. Look further down as I proceed to enlighten you un-enlightened and aggressive one.

I'm not worried, I'm annoyed I have to read through this drivel and have to educate you.


Let me help you. Giving your opinion is not substantiating a claim.

3) Nope I have not talked to even 1 of the 32 teams, nor have I ever said I did. Me talking to all 32 teams is not a fact whether you were being sarcastic or not. Obviously sarcastic on your end. But that's all you got because apparently only your opinions around here don't require you to talk to all 32 clubs about the draft. You're hilarious.

Lol, when you attempt to pass-off your opinion as fact (as you do), you're required to substantiate that with fact, not more of your personal reflection.

Unbelievable.

Here is another bunch of well known draft sites and their mocks. What do you know? Sherrod and Carimi are sitting there at the bottom of the 1st or early 2nd.

Eat your heart out. There's more than where this all came from.

Lol, well I guess that does it. You showed me.

Thanks for posting a bunch of websites that are nothing more than a bunch of opinions from Joe Blow the "draft expert" which parrot off of each other.

I mean, we all know how reliable draft websites are, right? When the NFLDraftDog speaks, everyone should take that as gospel.

Why don't try to convince me that Justin Beiber is the world's greatest singer by posting me a bunch of "Official" Justin Beiber website links.

That will be real convincing.

A lot of Nostradamus' out there huh? Go research before you start posting and questioning everyone else.

Go research before all you have to offer is aggressive remarks and statements about peoples posts.


Instead of making remarks like "we got a Nostradamus posting" and "glad you talked to all 32 teams".

Lol, go read my last comment three times.

Do you even know how the majority of these draft websites are created? Do you know any Tom, Dick or Harry that knows Dreamweaver or some website builder can put one of these up?

Explain it to me. What makes their opinions more credible than yours?

Thanks for playing....next.

I obviously have more research regarding this than you and it's pretty basic research I may add. So if I'm the Nostradamus of this mock draft than you must be the Ray Charles of it. Because my man, there is information everywhere indicating what I said and you are obviously to lazy to look for it or too blind to see it. But you got the energy to say "un-substantiated" things.

Let me educate you: Surfing the web for draft websites which essentially reflect someone elses opinion is not "substantiating" your claims.

Lol, no, I'm not too lazy to "research" it myself. I'm too intelligent to simply think whatever draftguru.com says is gospel. I watch a ton of college football, DVR'it, and watch it again. I form my own opinions and I only speak on the players I've watched.

I'm not infallible, but I certainly like my approach then surfing hundreds of draft websites and parroting what other Joe Schmoes are saying, which is what you've done.

So consider the information I was nice enough to provide you with substantiated.

Um, no, it's anything and everything but "substantiated."

4) Not personal opinion, there are many reports saying he is the most flexible offensive-lineman in the draft. He has played LT and he is sought more so as a RT prospect. Analysts like Mayock have said he could play inside if teams needed him to. Gabe Carimi himself has said he was willing to if teams needed to as well.


Substantiated, facts. Not opinion[...] Even if my post was opinionated, which it is backed buy fact and substance..

Lol, I couldn't make this stuff up if I wanted to. Let me help you.

Here's a fact: Derrick Sherrod & Gabe Carimi have never played OG in college...

Here's an opinion: "Matt Mayock said..." "Gabe Carimi has said he was willing..."

Now, I don't claim that either of those guys can't play make that transition to OG (I think Carimi could), but to glibly just speak out your rear-end as if it's a proven fact they can is ignorant.

5) So based on the numerous other reports provided to you in this post what I have said is not just my own reality, but other well known mock sites reality. Let's not question yours. So now that you can feel free to make totally opinionated and un-substantiated comments what do you have to say that is useful?

I think you should say "thank you". Learn a life skill bud called "research".

It's ok to question where my insight comes from and why I think the things I do about this draft. No problem! that's what a blog is for.

But don't go on the way you did.

Absolutely comical.

Because I've derided you about trying to pass-off opinion as fact and not substantiating your claims, you in complete idiotic irony and inane ignorance try mimmick me and accuse me of the same.

It's like arguing with a nitwit that doesn't believe oxygen exists, but while debating says "hold on, let me catch my breath."

 

[Hoofbite]

Wish someone could show me in any of these videos how he holds up his own and gives the QB a solid pocket.

Wish someone could show me in any of these videos how he creates consistent running lanes for the ball carrier.

He's diving 30% of the time when he blocks. Best thing he does is a chip block.

DE's are bull rushing him and slapping him back into the QB like it's their little brother in the basement.

When they're not just shoving him back into the QB, they're running by him like he's a matador.

I'm tired of having to watch poor Tony Romo tap dance throughout games on every other down and using a 9th overall pick on this level of prospect is unacceptable.

If you're trying to peg me as a fan of this guy you're not going to be successful.

I think this thread is the first time I've ever spoken about him, and really I didn't even say anything about him.

I was just laughing at the idea that someone can look at a YouTube video and conclude that a player has, or doesn't have, all these certain traits that are completely non-descript.

"mean streak"

What would qualify as a mean streak in a YouTube video?

Hell, what qualifies as a "mean streak" at all? I know people love to use it about linemen and I'm sure I've used it in the past but lets really think about what the hell it means.

Honestly when I think of "mean streak", I think of a dude who's got some ****** in him. I kind of think of Colombo but then again, I've seen Colombo toss Deangelo Hall like a rag doll at the conclusion of a play, I've heard Colombo castrate Bobby Carpenter during training camp and I've seen Colombo start tussling with Giants' players.

What has anyone heard or seen this kid do, or not do, that would allow someone to accurately say either way if he had a "mean streak" or not?

 

[AKATheRake]

Dude, you asked me questions of what I thought we should do. So you got your answers.

Then you went off calling me nastradamus and having nothing to substantiate the answers I gave to your questions.

Called me unrealistic because I said Carimi and Sherrod are supposed to be there at the end of the first, early 2nd.

Yes, I rather use the 9th overall pick on someone other than Tyron Smith.

I rather draft the other 2 OT's if we can get them where most mocks project them to go.

I never said once who the hell we were going to draft.

I know you would like to think you have a point but you don't

You need to chronilogically check things out and rationalize with yourself.

 

[realtick]

I agree.

The thing is. Out of any footage I have seen of him from anyone.

There is nothing impressive about him. Not even on his own highlight video.

So what you're really saying is that you've never really seen the kid play in his three years at USC, outside of two YouTube videos.

Thanks for playing.

 

[AKATheRake]

If you're trying to peg me as a fan of this guy you're not going to be successful.

I think this thread is the first time I've ever spoken about him, and really I didn't even say anything about him.

I was just laughing at the idea that someone can look at a YouTube video and conclude that a player has, or doesn't have, all these certain traits that are completely non-descript.

"mean streak"

What would qualify as a mean streak in a YouTube video?

Hell, what qualifies as a "mean streak" at all? I know people love to use it about linemen and I'm sure I've used it in the past but lets really think about what the hell it means.

Honestly when I think of "mean streak", I think of a dude who's got some ****** in him. I kind of think of Colombo but then again, I've seen Colombo toss Deangelo Hall like a rag doll at the conclusion of a play, I've heard Colombo castrate Bobby Carpenter during training camp and I've seen Colombo start tussling with Giants' players.

What has anyone heard or seen this kid do, or not do, that would allow someone to accurately say either way if he had a "mean streak" or not?

Haha! And you make a very valid point. It's obviously subject to personal perspective. That's blogging.

Nah, don't think you're for or against the pick. think your being objective as you usually are.

I just was spinning off your viewpoint because I hear how great of a tackle prospect he is.

I hear people fighting tooth and nail that he's all that and a bag of chips.

But nobody comes up for anything tangible in footage or explanation of that footage of why he's this great prospect and the guy we should build our draft around.

I hear about his arm length and hands. His feet and his physique. Ohh, the most consistent. Potential to play LT for us. When we got Free there already.

That's his hype and when I listen and then look for myself. It's all hot air and these guys just can't handle that other posters don't want to buy the hype.

Kinda like you not wanting to buy the hype he's not worthy because you don't see where to find a mean streak within a youtube video.

You're asking and rightfully so. Nobody is coming up with the goods.

Well, nobody is really coming up with the goods of why we should build the draft around this guy.

 

[realtick]

Buddy, post #29 in this thread. It's all there for you. Eat your heart out. You obviously read it.

Got handled and changed your post around to the best of your ability.

Your usual post saying the same things like the broken record you are. You just stopped calling me nostradamus in it.

You blind bat. Go read up on stuff before you yap. You still haven't learned.

You heard a new word "substantiate" and you like to use it now. Obviously you don't even know what it means because post # 29 substantiated all my statements in this thread prior to that post.

You contradict yourself too much.

Everything is backed up. Cut and paste the links and read.

You know how to do that right?

Lol, you're such flippant idiot.

I wrote my post before you even responded back. I also edited my post changing nothing but some harsh words before you even responded back.

So you can quit with that nonsense.

Again, go ask a moderator to post my original post if you want to "expose" me.

 

[AKATheRake]

So what you're really saying is that you've never really seen the kid play in his three years at USC, outside of two YouTube videos.

Thanks for playing.

No, you're just doing what you always do.

Making statements.

Once again, never said any of that, you are.

So what do you know about him again and where did you get your info?

Cause you have nothing to substantiate why you want him. As usual.

You just know you want him.

You're checking your most likely 16 year old gut on this prospect and saying you want an OT and he's the one.

Kid, you never really have a point and the majority of your transactions with posters on this site are like a broken record.

you going on like you're someone who knows something and hate on the people who can answer your questions because you don't know enough yourself.

You're a burn out and have not offered any insight on the player other than wanting to draft him at #9 or trading out of a top 10 pick to get him and pick up another pick.

OK, np. So why him and what's making you want him?

Lets be somewhat conducive here.

 

[realtick]

.

Kinda like you not wanting to buy the hype he's not worthy because you don't see where to find a mean streak within a youtube video.

You're asking and rightfully so. Nobody is coming up with the goods.

Lol, you're so freakin' dumb you can't tell when people are mocking you.

He was mocking people who have concluded that Smith doesn't have a "mean streak" because they can't see it through a YouTube clip.

Unbelievable.

 

[AKATheRake]

Lol, you're such flippant idiot.

I wrote my post before you even responded back. I also edited my post changing nothing but some harsh words before you even responded back.

So you can quit with that nonsense.

Again, go ask a moderator to post my original post if you want to "expose" me.

Expose you? Haha! You do that all on your own.

Just can't wait till you actually can come up with some football insight on this board.

Been asking you what you see in Tyron Smith for a good while now.

You got nothing.

Just rather talk ish.

 

[AKATheRake]

Lol, you're so freakin' dumb you can't tell when people are mocking you.

He was mocking people who have concluded that Smith doesn't have a "mean streak" because they can't see it through a YouTube clip.

Unbelievable.

Once again kid.

You're wrong yet again.

He wasn't mocking me and I'm not the guy who put the youtube video up.

I'm not the guy who put the mean streak thing up.

You're such a burn out.

Mocking means copying someone in a sarcastic and insulting manner. Hoofbite didn't mock anyone, he asked a question in an objective yet comical way.

But mocking is another word you obviously don't know the meaning of you condescending lil burn out. Lol!

So last time I ask.

What do you know about Tyron Smith and what makes you want us to draft him?

Anything to provide?

I bet you can't. Because you've been running from doing that for almost a month now.

 

[realtick]

No, you're just doing what you always do.

Making statements.

Once again, never said any of that, you are.

So what do you know about him again and where did you get your info?

Cause you have nothing to substantiate why you want him. As usual.

You just know you want him.

You're checking your most likely 16 year old gut on this prospect and saying you want an OT and he's the one.

Kid, you never really have a point and the majority of your transactions with posters on this site are like a broken record.

you going on like you're someone who knows something and hate on the people who can answer your questions because you don't know enough yourself.

You're a burn out and have not offered any insight on the player other than wanting to draft him at #9 or trading out of a top 10 pick to get him and pick up another pick.

OK, np. So why him and what's making you want him?

Lets be somewhat conducive here.

Lol, the irony...your go-to appeal is continually the two YouTube clips (or as you like to call them "footage...film".

We are well past discussion here. I'm not going to waste my time detailing the pros and cons of Tyron Smith with someone who has watched two YouTube clips of him and has come to a dogmatic conclusion about him.

I've never advocated taking Smith at #9 at all, just merely rebuked clowns who form opinions off of a 5-minute YouTube clip.

 

[realtick]

I bet you can't. Because you've been running from doing that for almost a month now.

Looooool, what in the world are you talking about?

 

[realtick]

Hey guys, help me out. I can't find "footage" anywhere on YouTube of Patrick Peterson sacking the QB.

If we really expect Peterson to be our potential safety, I need to feel sure he can sack the QB on a safety blitz. And....I need that proof to be provided on a YouTube clip preferably with some grimey Lil'Wayne track playing in the background.

Thanks-

[youtube]yCOLpiFxgbM[/youtube]

 

[AKATheRake]

Lol, the irony...your go-to appeal is continually the two YouTube clips (or as you like to call them "footage...film".

We are well past discussion here. I'm not going to waste my time detailing the pros and cons of Tyron Smith with someone who has watched two YouTube clips of him and has come to a dogmatic conclusion about him.

I've never advocated taking Smith at #9 at all, just merely rebuked clowns who form opinions off of a 5-minute YouTube clip.

Haha! You broken record.

Substantiate and "youtube". Haha!

I never brought youtube up once nor have I even posted a youtube video of Tyron smith in this thread.

You're an insane teenager that just puts bs out. Lil condescending chiwawa. All bark no bite.

Still can't explain why he wants Tyron Smith and what he knows about his game.

Just asks questions and make comments on peoples insight in a very condescending way so that you can actually act like you know something and are of relevance.

Unfortunately chiwawa on a football forum, you actually have to talk some football. LOL!

Insecure lil man. Knows he knows nothing so gabs away about nothing conducive. So anyways. I'm going to go talk football with people who came here for the purpose of being on a football forum.

Adios chiwawa! Make sure nobody picks you up and drops you in her carry bag.

They'll be able to zip your ridiculous self shut.

 

[AKATheRake]

Hey guys, help me out. I can't find "footage" anywhere on YouTube of Patrick Peterson sacking the QB.

If we really expect Peterson to be our potential safety, I need to feel sure he can sack the QB on a safety blitz. And....I need that proof to be provided on a YouTube clip preferably with some grimey Lil'Wayne track playing in the background.

Thanks-

[youtube]yCOLpiFxgbM[/youtube]

If you're going to draft Patrick Peterson you're gonna draft him to play CB. Believe me.

 

[AKATheRake]

Looooool, what in the world are you talking about?

You know exactly what I'm talking about.

The usual, how you don't know how to talk about football.

Last adios Drama queen until you can objectively talk about football.

 

[realtick]

Haha! You broken record.

Substantiate and "youtube". Haha!

I never brought youtube up once [...] of Tyron smith in this thread.

What complete load of crap. These are your quotes below:

"Wish someone could show me in any of these videos how he creates consistent running lanes for the ball carrier."

"Out of any footage I have seen of him from anyone.[/FONT]

"There is nothing impressive about him. Not even on his own highlight video."[/FONT]

"But nobody comes up for anything tangible in footage or explanation of that footage of why he's this great prospect and the guy we should build our draft around."[/FONT]

Lol, hey idiot, what "videos" are you referring to?

See, you've continually brought up the videos. That's all you've ever pointed to.

Here's the facts:

1.) You've already made your mind up on Smith.

2.) You know that I think you're complete idiot.

Do you really think I'm going to sit here and talk about Tyron Smith with you, lol?

Let me guess how that conversation goes:

Me: "Tyron Smith....this, that and the other, here...here....and here"

You: "Tell me why I don't see that in the film (aka YouTube)... No way, I don't see that... Explain to me why DraftBloggerR'Us.com says that Smith's weakness is blank, blank...blank."

Thanks for playing.

The "chiwawa" remarks were really impactful.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

this year.

Correct. I don't believe Virginia and SC played in 09.

 

[unionjack8]

so sad when people want to start a thread bashing a prospect rather than talking about the positives of another. Pathetic is all i can say. Just cos it doesnt dance with their own little infatuation of a player.

 

[SMCowboy]

I don't have a favorite prospect in this draft, infact I didn't see any of these kids play much if at all in college. But I don't see in the video against Virginia how Smith looks so bad. Yeah, he got beat once or twice, but guess what that will happen to every prospect at every position....

But alot of the time that the USC QB was pressured by Smith's guy was because the QB rolled out of the pocket an into where Smith had his guy blocked...

I am not going to say he had a great game, but I certainly wouldn't call it a bad game either.