Tyrone Crawford post game comments alarming

Section446

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please stop posting.
seriously, this is nonsense.

the weak owner made millions then risked it all to buy the cowboys, basically turned them into a trillion dollar business.

so weak....

the coach was an ivy league grad who played a decade in the NFL and won a few rings before quickly ascending the coaching ranks.
is he my favorite coach? no. but he isn't weak just boring.
How has Jerry being an owner of a billion dollar business done anything to translate to on the field winning? How has Garrett's resume done anything to translate to on the filed winning? Answer is the same for both... it hasn't. Both are weak, and we'll continue to be the epitome of average-below average until one or both are gone.
 

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Any who has competitively played sports in their life understands exactly where Crawford is coming. Don't see a problem with his comments
 

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How has Jerry being an owner of a billion dollar business done anything to translate to on the field winning? How has Garrett's resume done anything to translate to on the filed winning? Answer is the same for both... it hasn't. Both are weak, and we'll continue to be the epitome of average-below average until one or both are gone.

Go follow another team then. Simple solution.
 

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T. Craw needs competition. We had a chance to draft a stud 3-tech in Aaron Donald and we failed to. A lot of people were on board with Donald. Not to mention JJ Watt (though Tyron Smith is a staple on the line). Maleik Collins was our highest drafted interior DL since Russell Maryland, and our highest drafted edge rushers were D. Law and the risky Gregory. But good thing we've traded 2nd round picks for CBs and taken risks on injured LBers and backup TEs over the years. When you fail to address the D-line you're stuck relying on guys like Benson Mayowa to be your savior.
 

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http://overthecap.com/position/4-3-defensive-tackle/

Right now, the elite DTs - Suh, McCoy, Dareus, and Atkins get anywhere from 90 million to 100 million (Atkins got his contract 3 years ago, if he was to get his contract today, he'd be between Suh and McCoy)

Crawford has a total value of 45 million. So he is on par with Linval Joseph and Damon Harrison, which I think is perfectly fine. Harrison averages less than a sack every year, Linval Joseph averages 3-4 sacks a year.

This hasn't even taken into account that players like Aaron Donald and Kawann Short have yet to get their second contracts. I mean, DTs who average 0-1 sacks a year in a 4-3 are getting a contract value of 25 million, Tyson Jackson and Dan Williams.

I have no issue and never had an issue with Crawford's contract. He's a good DT, not great, a good DT that will get you 3-5 sacks a season.
 

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T. Craw needs competition. We had a chance to draft a stud 3-tech in Aaron Donald and we failed to. A lot of people were on board with Donald. Not to mention JJ Watt (though Tyron Smith is a staple on the line). Maleik Collins was our highest drafted interior DL since Russell Maryland, and our highest drafted edge rushers were D. Law and the risky Gregory. But good thing we've traded 2nd round picks for CBs and taken risks or injured LBers over the years. When you fail to address the D-line you're stuck relying on guys like Benson Mayowa to be your savior.

Who is going to compete with Crawford? There aren't a million Donald's in this league. Believe it or not, great even GOOD DTs are hard to come by in this league. This is why I laughed at people saying it's easier to find players for the 4-3 than it is the 3-4, it's just as hard.

Look at the list of DTs in the league. Here are your studs

Suh
Donald
Atkins
McCoy
Dareus

The drop off from this is quite large, I think Short is somewhere inbetween. You then have players like Crawford, Joseph, Harrison, and Floyd (Floyd will most likely get a sizable contract as well, averages about 4 sacks a season)

There are bigger issues than Crawford right now, he's on the bottom of the list of problems. The LB position, the DE, the second DT, our secondary, and the DC I have bigger issues with. Which yeah, is pretty much the entire damn defense.
 

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http://overthecap.com/position/4-3-defensive-tackle/

Right now, the elite DTs - Suh, McCoy, Dareus, and Atkins get anywhere from 90 million to 100 million (Atkins got his contract 3 years ago, if he was to get his contract today, he'd be between Suh and McCoy)

Crawford has a total value of 45 million. So he is on par with Linval Joseph and Damon Harrison, which I think is perfectly fine. Harrison averages less than a sack every year, Linval Joseph averages 3-4 sacks a year.

This hasn't even taken into account that players like Aaron Donald and Kawann Short have yet to get their second contracts. I mean, DTs who average 0-1 sacks a year in a 4-3 are getting a contract value of 25 million, Tyson Jackson and Dan Williams.

I have no issue and never had an issue with Crawford's contract. He's a good DT, not great, a good DT that will get you 3-5 sacks a season.
Good point. I never thought of it that way
 

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Who is going to compete with Crawford? There aren't a million Donald's in this league. Believe it or not, great even GOOD DTs are hard to come by in this league. This is why I laughed at people saying it's easier to find players for the 4-3 than it is the 3-4, it's just as hard.

Look at the list of DTs in the league. Here are your studs

Suh
Donald
Atkins
McCoy
Dareus

The drop off from this is quite large, I think Short is somewhere inbetween. You then have players like Crawford, Joseph, Harrison, and Floyd (Floyd will most likely get a sizable contract as well, averages about 4 sacks a season)

There are bigger issues than Crawford right now, he's on the bottom of the list of problems. The LB position, the DE, the second DT, our secondary, and the DC I have bigger issues with. Which yeah, is pretty much the entire damn defense.

I don't think T. Craw is awful or that he's one of our big problems on D. The truth is he's a decent DT but nothing special. We seemed to have settled on him (since average is better than most on our defense) to focus on more pressing needs. My point is, we shouldn't settle on guys and give them contracts unless they're special players. Frederick, Martin, Smith are special players, so are Romo, Lee, Dez and Witten a few years ago. But T. Craw is the type of guy who can easily be challenged by a street free agent like David Irving. He isn't someone you build a defense around. He's someone who won't be a liability but also won't win you any games.
 

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On the win:

"This loss would have torn us apart. We definitely needed this. It would have really torn us apart as a team, mentally. Good thing we got this and now we can kind of relax. Now we can move on to the next game this week."



This dude is weak. :facepalm: Lawrence and Gregory must save us this year.
Lol his comments remind me of posters on this forum hahaha just a little emotional :muttley:
 

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I was fine with his comment up to the relax part. Unless he meant relax as in finger pointing and not as relaxing as taking the next game not as seriously.
I took it to mean that they can relax from a standpoint of they got a win. One can only imagine the pucker factor in Big D had they gotten off to 0-2. JMO
 

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http://overthecap.com/position/4-3-defensive-tackle/

Right now, the elite DTs - Suh, McCoy, Dareus, and Atkins get anywhere from 90 million to 100 million (Atkins got his contract 3 years ago, if he was to get his contract today, he'd be between Suh and McCoy)

Crawford has a total value of 45 million. So he is on par with Linval Joseph and Damon Harrison, which I think is perfectly fine. Harrison averages less than a sack every year, Linval Joseph averages 3-4 sacks a year.

This hasn't even taken into account that players like Aaron Donald and Kawann Short have yet to get their second contracts. I mean, DTs who average 0-1 sacks a year in a 4-3 are getting a contract value of 25 million, Tyson Jackson and Dan Williams.

I have no issue and never had an issue with Crawford's contract. He's a good DT, not great, a good DT that will get you 3-5 sacks a season.

Lol did you just compare Damon Harrison to TCraw by sacks? Damon would eat TC.

Tyrone has some work to do before he's on Damon's level. He's a big reason the Giants stuffed the best OL in the league.

TC was ballin a few years ago. Not on the stat sheet, but he was a wrecking ball on the line of scrimmage. Maybe he lost some str doing shoulder stuff, I don't know. I find it hard to believe he just lost it though
 

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I don't think T. Craw is awful or that he's one of our big problems on D. The truth is he's a decent DT but nothing special. We seemed to have settled on him (since average is better than most on our defense) to focus on more pressing needs. My point is, we shouldn't settle on guys and give them contracts unless they're special players. Frederick, Martin, Smith are special players, so are Romo, Lee, Dez and Witten a few years ago. But T. Craw is the type of guy who can easily be challenged by a street free agent like David Irving. He isn't someone you build a defense around. He's someone who won't be a liability but also won't win you any games.

Weren't you just saying that the Cowboys should have drafted Aaron Donald? You know that would come at the expense of Zack Martin right?

I just don't get it sometimes.

I saw a poster lamenting the loss of Sharif Floyd (which would have come at the expense of Frederick), just the other day.

It's pretty damn hard to build a team.

If the Cowboys had a stud defensive line.. it probably would have come at the expense of the oline.
 

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Weren't you just saying that the Cowboys should have drafted Aaron Donald? You know that would come at the expense of Zack Martin right?

I just don't get it sometimes.

I saw a poster lamenting the loss of Sharif Floyd (which would have come at the expense of Frederick), just the other day.

It's pretty damn hard to build a team.

If the Cowboys had a stud defensive line.. it probably would have come at the expense of the oline.

I agree. We could've had a line of Watt and Donald. But that would mean we wouldn't have Smith and Martin. Our O-line picks were great. We also got lucky landing a UDFA QB and a 4th round QB. Other than that, we wasted early round picks (especially 2nds) on trades, injured players, players with drug problems and players we never intended to start (TEs). You can't built a quality O-line or D-line without addressing it early. We hit a home run on O-line but we're batting .000 on D-line.
 

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I think we sometimes read too much into every word an athlete says and need to look more at the context. Frankly I took it as anxiety was high goimg into this game and we can rest easier tonight knowing we won and wont start the season in a hole.

Exactly. Instead of gripping hard for the next game, they now can play differently.
 

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Lol did you just compare Damon Harrison to TCraw by sacks? Damon would eat TC.

Tyrone has some work to do before he's on Damon's level. He's a big reason the Giants stuffed the best OL in the league.

TC was ballin a few years ago. Not on the stat sheet, but he was a wrecking ball on the line of scrimmage. Maybe he lost some str doing shoulder stuff, I don't know. I find it hard to believe he just lost it though

Harrison is a run stopper, that is it. He's not a pass rusher, he has 1.5 sacks in his entire career. He has an obvious weakness as a pass rusher, so yeah, I would say he's on the level of Crawford since Crawford gets at the QB better.

Either way you slice it, Harrison is not elite. He's a good DT in this league, and their contracts show this.
 

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Should have signed Damon Harrison for the same money. But crawford is honest. We are stuck with him long term so gotta root for him. Go J&T crawfords!
 

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How are we supposed to judge this guy when we all know good and well there would have been more than enough posters here just as equally destroyed by a loss?
 
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