Tyson Thompson KO Returns

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Am I just delusional or does our coaching staff just suck? I watch a lot of football and we must have the worst KO return team in the league. What is up with this guy running the ball right into the back of the blockers on every attempt. Does Bill think this is OK? Why does he keep putting this crap on the field?
 

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Sportsbabe;1113732 said:
Am I just delusional or does our coaching staff just suck? I watch a lot of football and we must have the worst KO return team in the league. What is up with this guy running the ball right into the back of the blockers on every attempt. Does Bill think this is OK? Why does he keep putting this crap on the field?

He can only run in a straight line
 
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Thompson is horrible on kickoff returns, he has NO vision or agility/lateral movement what so ever, I'm tired of our special teams which hasn't been very "special" since the days of Calvin Martin and Deion Sanders.....
 

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The team doesnt value return men, and hasnt for a while. When was the last return TD? Woody Dantzler's?
 

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Sportsbabe;1113732 said:
Am I just delusional or does our coaching staff just suck? I watch a lot of football and we must have the worst KO return team in the league. What is up with this guy running the ball right into the back of the blockers on every attempt. Does Bill think this is OK? Why does he keep putting this crap on the field?

I mentioned this in another thread. Thompson sucked last night. He doesn't seem to bring anything to the team that someone else doesn't offer. I think we would be better off releasing him. Of course he is a Parcells guy so that may not happen. Bledsoe and Polite were too and that didn't help them. Maybe major changes are in the future for more than just QB.
 

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I mentioned this in another thread. Thompson sucked last night. He doesn't seem to bring anything to the team that someone else doesn't offer. I think we would be better off releasing him. Of course he is a Parcells guy so that may not happen. Bledsoe and Polite were too and that didn't help them. Maybe major changes are in the future for more than just QB.

Maybe BP values substance over flash. TT is 2nd in the NFC in returns, but don't let that stop you from bashing the guy for doing his job.
 

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When someone tells you that Dallas was bad in every way last night, you can believe it was true. Offense, defense, and special teams were all terrible.
 

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if you looked at all of Tyson Thompson's KO returns, they would mirror each other to a tee, every single one of them. straight up the left side, he usually reaches the 30. but never has he been a:starspin threat to go all the way.
 

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I'm glad someone else brought this topic up because I was just about to. I've seen enough of Thompson. He stinks. Is it that much to ask to every once in a while to start a drive somewhere beyond our own 25-30 yard line? Maybe if we had better field position, our offense would be more effective. This organization has always prided itself on good special teams so why do they continue to play Thompson? There has to be a better option. Hurd? Austin? Somebody on another teams practice squad? We have to improve this area and quick.
 

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Don't people realize that he was leading the NFC in KO return average heading into this weekends games?

:bang2: :bang2:
 

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This is going to sound like an off-base thought, and don't get me wrong, there are times when Thompson does good things, but yeah last night sucked big time.

I never see Elam do anything when he is back there, he blocks ok, but that's all. Why not put him farther up in the formation, take someone else out, and put Skyler back there with Thompson, having him take some.

Parcells said when we called him up from the PS that he has drastically improved, and that we couldn't see it against Houston b/c he only had one realistic chance to even attempt a return, as their punter was just launching high kicks with long hang time.

If Skyler has improved his quickness and ability as much as Parcells claims, why not stick him back there and see what he can do on kickoff returns?
 

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CowboyChris;1113817 said:
if you looked at all of Tyson Thompson's KO returns, they would mirror each other to a tee, every single one of them. straight up the left side, he usually reaches the 30. but never has he been a:starspin threat to go all the way.

He could be if he'd learn to juke the kicker. In the first Philly game last year he could have had 3 td's by either running over, through, or faking out the kicker.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1113873 said:
Don't people realize that he was leading the NFC in KO return average heading into this weekends games?

:bang2: :bang2:

I learned that some people on this board don't let facts get in the way of their agenda. They want a probowler at every position. The fact that an undrafted, basically a walk on player, is the second leading KO returner in the NFC is not good enough. We have glaring holes in the O line, the QB situation right now is in turmoil, the D has its problems,, but TT is the one thing that is doing pretty well, consistantly,, and he gets bashed.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1113906 said:
I learned that some people on this board don't let facts get in the way of their agenda. They want a probowler at every position. The fact that an undrafted, basically a walk on player, is the second leading KO returner in the NFC is not good enough. We have glaring holes in the O line, the QB situation right now is in turmoil, the D has its problems,, but TT is the one thing that is doing pretty well, consistantly,, and he gets bashed.

What's wrong with wanting a pro bowler at every position? It's not going to happen but it would be nice. :D
 

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Yeagermeister;1113916 said:
What's wrong with wanting a pro bowler at every position? It's not going to happen but it would be nice. :D

Nothing, but Thompson's going to get more pro bowl votes than all but 3 or 4 other Cowboys.



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Cowboy4ever;1113906 said:
I learned that some people on this board don't let facts get in the way of their agenda. They want a probowler at every position. The fact that an undrafted, basically a walk on player, is the second leading KO returner in the NFC is not good enough. We have glaring holes in the O line, the QB situation right now is in turmoil, the D has its problems,, but TT is the one thing that is doing pretty well, consistantly,, and he gets bashed.

You know, I'm sick of people telling me to look at the stats. I look on the field every Sunday for three hours and I don't see Thompson getting it done, I don't care what your "stats" say. Do we have optimal field position after a KO return most of the time? No. So the stats mean nothing and can be manipulated to suit the situation. Bottom line is my eyes see what they see and I don't see Thompson doing much. Being from Irving, TX he's a nice story but at some point you have to produce and Tyson ain't doing it.
 

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Novacek84;1113971 said:
You know, I'm sick of people telling me to look at the stats. I look on the field every Sunday for three hours and I don't see Thompson getting it done, I don't care what your "stats" say. Do we have optimal field position after a KO return most of the time? No. So the stats mean nothing and can be manipulated to suit the situation. Bottom line is my eyes see what they see and I don't see Thompson doing much. Being from Irving, TX he's a nice story but at some point you have to produce and Tyson ain't doing it.


What exactly do you call producing?

One of the best return averages in the NFL's not good enough for you?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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StanleySpadowski;1113986 said:
What exactly do you call producing?

One of the best return averages in the NFL's not good enough for you?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

Has it occured to anyone he is leading the league because he is getting more chances :D
 

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StanleySpadowski;1113986 said:
What exactly do you call producing?

One of the best return averages in the NFL's not good enough for you?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

I call producing giving good field position in times when we really need it like right after an opposing teams score. It's not how the average of his returns look as a whole that matters, it's when he has his key returns that matters most.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1113906 said:
I learned that some people on this board don't let facts get in the way of their agenda. They want a probowler at every position. The fact that an undrafted, basically a walk on player, is the second leading KO returner in the NFC is not good enough. We have glaring holes in the O line, the QB situation right now is in turmoil, the D has its problems,, but TT is the one thing that is doing pretty well, consistantly,, and he gets bashed.

The Cowboys special teams have been playing fairly well, but don't let that stop a returner from having a good day. ;) Thompson doesn't have the explosiveness to be a big time returner, but if you don't have one you don't have one. Same goes for QBs. If your offensive line sucks you won't ever be a great QB. (Even Mr. Romo) Look at all the less than great QBs that have won superbowls. It's because of their offensive line, not because they were that good.

  • Mark Rypien
  • Trent Dilfer
  • Ben Roethlisberger
  • Brad Johnson
  • Jim Mcmahon
  • Doug Williams
  • Jim Plunkett

Where you were drafted doesn't matter once you are on the field. Either can or you can't. All the draft does is say who gets who and how much they will pay for them.
 
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