U.S. Army makes gun that fires lightning

[StevenOtero]

So funds wasted on a useless weapon, wouldn't help in the research?

Got it.

You have a point, but also know that there's probably been a cure for cancer for a very long time. However the scum that run big pharma realize there's no profit in curing it.

 

[Kingsmith88]

What's asinine is the claim that weapons offer no benefit to mankind. That's clearly not true. Weapons are actually key to mankind's dominance on the planet.

Furthermore, if you were to increase spending for disease research by infinity dollars, you still would not cure all diseases. Death is a fact of life in this reality.

No, pretty sure celebrating new weapons manufacturing is asinine. More importantly suggesting that unneeded weapons are more important than cancer/aids research isn't more important because you can't cure all diseases, is even more asinine.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

No, pretty sure celebrating new weapons manufacturing is asinine. More importantly suggesting that unneeded weapons are more important than cancer/aids research isn't more important because you can't cure all diseases, is even more asinine.

I'm not celebrating anything.

I'm simply pointing out the folly of your argument. The development of this gun does not impede or prevent the creation of cures for diseases.

 

[rkell87]

No, pretty sure celebrating new weapons manufacturing is asinine. More importantly suggesting that unneeded weapons are more important than cancer/aids research isn't more important because you can't cure all diseases, is even more asinine.

no body suggested this but I really find your high horse act insufferable, and not only should you get down off of your horse, you should sit under its rear end so you know what it has been like reading your inane responses in this thread.

 

[Kingsmith88]

no body suggested this but I really find your high horse act insufferable, and not only should you get down off of your horse, you should sit under its rear end so you know what it has been like reading your inane responses in this thread.

Yes he did,

What's asinine is the claim that weapons offer no benefit to mankind. That's clearly not true. Weapons are actually key to mankind's dominance on the planet.

Furthermore, if you were to increase spending for disease research by infinity dollars, you still would not cure all diseases. Death is a fact of life in this reality.

But anyway, go celebrate our new lightening gun. People are still dying from diseases that could have better treatment or possible cures if research was funded as well as the military.

 

[Kingsmith88]

I'm not celebrating anything.

I'm simply pointing out the folly of your argument. The development of this gun does not impede or prevent the creation of cures for diseases.

We spend 365 billion on military defense spending. The U.S. military spending and the Dept. of Defense is equal to the military spending of the next 15 countries combined. Whereas we spend 95 billion on medical research. See the problem.

 

[rkell87]

Yes he did,



But anyway, go celebrate our new lightening gun. People are still dying from diseases that could have better treatment or possible cures if research was funded as well as the military.

no, he didn't and the fact that you believe that tells me that in 150 posts, you have proven that you will add nothing of value to anybody on this forum

 

[ScipioCowboy]

We spend 365 billion on military defense spending. The U.S. military spending and the Dept. of Defense is equal to the military spending of the next 15 countries combined. Whereas we spend 95 billion on medical research. See the problem.

In terms of medicine and medical technology, we're the most innovative country on the planet. So, no, I don't see a problem.

If you want to reduce defense spending, be my guest. But it's highly unlikely to improve our medical research.

 

[Kingsmith88]

no, he didn't and the fact that you believe that tells me that in 150 posts, you have proven that you will add nothing of value to anybody on this forum

The suggestion is there, if you don't see it, that's on you. Your personal attacks on me don't phase me, keep at it if it makes you feel better about yourself. It is funny that you have added nothing to the conversation we are having other than to attack me. Do yourself a favor either put me on ignore or don't respond to my posts.

 

[Kingsmith88]

In terms of medicine and medical technology, we're the most innovative country on the planet. So, no, I don't see a problem.

If you want to reduce defense spending, be my guest. But it's highly unlikely to improve our medical research.

I disagree, if more money was available, I think more progress would be made. Cutting the defense budget and not building unneeded weapons would be a good start.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

What's asinine is the claim that weapons offer no benefit to mankind. That's clearly not true. Weapons are actually key to mankind's dominance on the planet.

Furthermore, if you were to increase spending for disease research by infinity dollars, you still would not cure all diseases. Death is a fact of life in this reality.

huh? I think he means we have enough weapons so there is no need to keep building new ones. We already dominate the planet and unless we do something stupid with apes like in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, we should continue to dominate.

Anyway, I think the whole idea of a gun shooting the equivalent of force lightning is awesome.

 

[Hoofbite]

This is not new. I've been using these since June 22, 1996.

(Who will get what I'm referencing?) :laugh2:

Demolition Man?

Ah, I see it was Quake.

Demolition man came out in 1993 I guess.

It was the first thing I thought when I read the article.

 

[rkell87]

The suggestion is there, if you don't see it, that's on you. Your personal attacks on me don't phase me, keep at it if it makes you feel better about yourself. It is funny that you have added nothing to the conversation we are having other than to attack me. Do yourself a favor either put me on ignore or don't respond to my posts.

lol, done and done

 

[ScipioCowboy]

huh? I think he means we have enough weapons so there is no need to keep building new ones. We already dominate the planet and unless we do something stupid with apes like in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, we should continue to dominate.

Anyway, I think the whole idea of a gun shooting the equivalent of force lightning is awesome.

Perhaps. Perhaps not.

But there's no question that weapons are key to mankind's dominance. Remember the opening act in 2001: A Space Odyssey?

 

[Hoofbite]

You have a point, but also know that there's probably been a cure for cancer for a very long time. However the scum that run big pharma realize there's no profit in curing it.

In 2009, the top 5 most profitable drugs were all drugs that were used for chronic conditions.

The idea that pharmaceutical companies are withholding cures to everything under the sun for money reasons is just foolish.

 

[a_minimalist]

In 2009, the top 5 most profitable drugs were all drugs that were used for chronic conditions.

The idea that pharmaceutical companies are withholding cures to everything under the sun for money reasons is just foolish.

I agree with this. I have my moments where I question the industry and it seems plausible but it's just such an easy conclusion to jump to. Virus's do adapt.

I also tend to have a little more faith in humanity.

And for the record, my father had leukemia and was told he had 2 years left to live. I think two or three years after that he was put on a pill that he has to take for the rest of his life. He's been fine for years. So I have some experience with all of this

 

[Hoofbite]

I agree with this. I have my moments where I question the industry and it seems plausible but it's just such an easy conclusion to jump to. Virus's do adapt.

I also tend to have a little more faith in humanity.

And for the record, my father had leukemia and was told he had 2 years left to live. I think two or three years after that he was put on a pill that he has to take for the rest of his life. He's been fine for years. So I have some experience with all of this

As for another thing, the returns on investment for pharmaceutical companies is like 2-3% higher than what other industries generally make.

It's not like there are no costs in getting a drug to market.

Out of 10,000 potential drugs only a few actually ever hit shelves.

I think people forget how much the last 20 or so years of medicine have produce and just assume that the rate of development has been the same since the beginning of drug development.

Less than a hundred years ago people were selling cocaine as some sort of cure-all.

 

[Kingsmith88]

Perhaps. Perhaps not.

But there's no question that weapons are key to mankind's dominance. Remember the opening act in 2001: A Space Odyssey?

I think it was pretty clear in the context of the discussion, didn't feel it needed pointed out. Apparently it did.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I think it was pretty clear in the context of the discussion, didn't feel it needed pointed out. Apparently it did.

That's not what I was referring to.

 

[casmith07]

So the lightning gun is still awesome?