Video: Undisputed FS1: Rod Woodson on Dez: "We rolled coverage over to him"

[Bleu Star]

Why is it even a topic of discussion? If I had a garbage year I wouldn't advertise I had focus issues and needed to bring in a route "guru."
Just do it, get better and stop the attention seeking.

& therein lies my angle... People hire specialists all the time to help them improve and tweak aspects of their game. The desire to publicize this just wreaks of desperation to preserve that 12.5 mil gravy train.

Hey look boss! I got that guru thing working! Feed me more gravy!

 

[Bleu Star]

It's also Dez and his publicist's/agent's twisted way of using the media to preemptively counter what is an inevitable conversation about his contract. Weak sauce.

 

[Proof]

So let's see.....

Romo was able to hide Dez's imperfections (I guess... ).

Now that Dez has a young QB that's causing him to actually exert effort and run crisp routes, he needs a route guru...

I call bs of the highest order.

If a WR was truly invested in improving his craft, something like this would have been sought out long ago. Dez has never been a good route runner and that realization didn't just hit him yesterday.

Now that he can no longer gravy train his pay check, he is taking extreme measures to preserve that load of gravy we're shoveling his way. Good for him.... YAYYYYYYY.....

But I see right through his little smoke screen.

Bye Felicia.

Or he was elite and dominant and now he’s not.

Dez is going to be paid regardless, even after Dallas. More likely this is for the peanut gallery.

 

[G2]

& therein lies my angle... People hire specialists all the time to help them improve and tweak aspects of their game. The desire to publicize this just wreaks of desperation to preserve that 12.5 mil gravy train.

Hey look boss! I got that guru thing working! Feed me more gravy!

I would like players to want the ball every play but when they get it they need to produce, not whine more and drop passes and fumble at the worst possible time. That's my issue.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

While I agree Dak had some bad games and bad throws, It's simply not all his fault. 2015 Dak wasn't even here. Dez couldn't stay healthy. 2016, Dak had a fantastic rookie season and we went 13-3. Seems "somehow" we managed. This past season the O line was garbage at times and we were missing Elliott. All things factor in.
Stating that Dez will be what he was 4 seasons ago with another QB is a wild guess.

Will Dez somehow catch balls that hit his hands and not have childish meltdowns simply by switching QBs? Nope! The problem didn't just "arise," it's been there.

But keep blaming the QB. Reminds me of Romo getting the blame for every thing years ago because he smiled on the sideline, wore a hat backward and vacationed an hours flight away. Idiotic.

So you run this apologetic stating all these reasons why Dak struggled (being young, broken o-lineman play, missing Elliott, etc.) but then can't rationalize why Dez's numbers have been impacted, as if those same reasons don't ultimately affect the wide receivers the QB is trying to throw to.

 

[gimmesix]

I thought it was a great discussion all the way around.

Sharp had the the story right on Dez. Teams doubled him when their corners were weak. Good corners can play Dez man up, in his chest. And that's what they did.

It seems crazy that a player is in his 9th season when he decides to get WR training in the offseason. But at least he is doing that. And on the bright side, there probably is some low hanging fruit to be had there.

Up until now, Dez thought he could just win with his superior skills. He's a better route runner than he's given credit for being, but he's never had a reason to perfect his skills, especially with Romo at quarterback. He could run a route to close to the sideline, for instance, and Romo would put the ball on his back shoulder or on the head of the corner where he could get it.

Frankly, the numbers for years supported Dez not having to concern himself with route perfection. Would better routes have made him a better receiver? Sure, but seasons of 92-93-88 catches at his peak, 1,200-plus yards each of those years and 12-plus TDs each year gave him little incentive to improve in that area. That doesn't mean Dez has a bad work ethic, just that his focus was more on other physical skills.

Last year, Dez was clearly frustrated, which caused him to try to do too much. Dropping passes and fumbling haven't been the norm for him, so I believe it was a product of his frustrations. That he's trying to fix the weakest part of his game should be seen as a good thing. Now, he's had some injury issues the past few years so I don't know how much that has affected him or will continue to affect him, but if he can sharpen his routes and the staff can use him better, I believe he can still be an effective No. 1 receiver.

 

[G2]

So you run this apologetic stating all these reasons why Dak struggled (being young, broken o-lineman play, missing Elliott, etc.) but then can't rationalize why Dez's numbers have been impacted, as if those same reasons don't ultimately affect the wide receivers the QB is trying to throw to.

It would effect the WR's in regard to Daks poor passes, like I've posted 1,000 times but for some reason the Dezzies can't comprehend that. But it's not an excuse for the meltdowns, whining, pouting, drops and fumbles.

 

[Proof]

It would effect the WR's in regard to Daks poor passes, like I've posted 1,000 times but for some reason the Dezzies can't comprehend that. But it's not an excuse for the meltdowns, whining, pouting, drops and fumbles.

nah you just had a laundry list of things in your previous post. then when it's addressed you drill down on something else which wasn't the point of contention.

 

[birdwells1]

& therein lies my angle... People hire specialists all the time to help them improve and tweak aspects of their game. The desire to publicize this just wreaks of desperation to preserve that 12.5 mil gravy train.

Hey look boss! I got that guru thing working! Feed me more gravy!

If his agent is any good he should be going to the Jerry about a pay raise after seeing what some of these wrs got in free agency.

 

[birdwells1]

It would effect the WR's in regard to Daks poor passes, like I've posted 1,000 times but for some reason the Dezzies can't comprehend that. But it's not an excuse for the meltdowns, whining, pouting, drops and fumbles.

Dez fumbled once last, why is this an issue?

 

[birdwells1]

Up until now, Dez thought he could just win with his superior skills. He's a better route runner than he's given credit for being, but he's never had a reason to perfect his skills, especially with Romo at quarterback. He could run a route to close to the sideline, for instance, and Romo would put the ball on his back shoulder or on the head of the corner where he could get it.

Frankly, the numbers for years supported Dez not having to concern himself with route perfection. Would better routes have made him a better receiver? Sure, but seasons of 92-93-88 catches at his peak, 1,200-plus yards each of those years and 12-plus TDs each year gave him little incentive to improve in that area. That doesn't mean Dez has a bad work ethic, just that his focus was more on other physical skills.

Last year, Dez was clearly frustrated, which caused him to try to do too much. Dropping passes and fumbling haven't been the norm for him, so I believe it was a product of his frustrations. That he's trying to fix the weakest part of his game should be seen as a good thing. Now, he's had some injury issues the past few years so I don't know how much that has affected him or will continue to affect him, but if he can sharpen his routes and the staff can use him better, I believe he can still be an effective No. 1 receiver.

Great post i believe that the drops were just part of subpar qbing. It may not be right but when you dont trust the guy to make the right read and right throw when he does youre surprised.

 

[birdwells1]

Back to the point WOODSON SAID THAT THEY DOUBLED HIM in the raiders game just like i said before he said it. Take that haters.

 

[gimmesix]

Great post i believe that the drops were just part of subpar qbing. It may not be right but when you dont trust the guy to make the right read and right throw when he does youre surprised.

I don't see that. Most drops by good receivers are the result of trying to run with the ball before you have it secured. It's a loss of concentration because you're thinking about what to do next instead of making sure you make the catch first.

 

[Trouty]

I told y'all this a long time ago, the only play that dez was not doubled was on the long reception but carry on with your agendas. Rod Woodson doesnt know what hes talking about he was only the secondary coach.

I missed this. What the hell are you going on about? I think someone needs to take a break from the coffee this AM

 

[birdwells1]

I don't see that. Most drops by good receivers are the result of trying to run with the ball before you have it secured. It's a loss of concentration because you're thinking about what to do next instead of making sure you make the catch first.

Yeah but in your previous post you mentioned frustration, and that is the part that i was responding to.

 

[birdwells1]

I missed this. What the hell are you going on about? I think someone needs to take a break from the coffee this AM

Uh did you forget what the topic was?

 

[Trouty]

Uh did you forget what the topic was?

No, I'm curious as to what you think my "agenda" was when I created the thread.

 

[gimmesix]

Yeah but in your previous post you mentioned frustration, and that is the part that i was responding to.

The frustration leads to drops because the receiver is trying to do too much. He's got his mind tuned toward making a play with the ball instead of securing it. It's a fundamentals problem.

Frustration doesn't generally lead to dropping the ball because you are surprised when it's thrown your way or surprised when it's thrown accurately.

 

[G2]

Dez fumbled once last, why is this an issue?

If you want to laser in on just that ONE point I mentioned, ok. I expect an 8 year veteran who whined all game long for the ball to come his way to NOT hold the ball like a loaf of bread.
The instinct to protect the ball should just be internal and automatic. It's fine that you're OK with and don't think it's an issue, but it was the worst possible timing. That turnover was bush league and led to a TD the other way. We were winning and momentum was with us. There was a chance for the post season.

 

[G2]

Back to the point WOODSON SAID THAT THEY DOUBLED HIM in the raiders game just like i said before he said it. Take that haters.

Want a cookie? The No. 1 WR threat SHOULD be doubled. And there is always safety help.