Update on Archuleta signing. HOLY MOSES!

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TheSkaven said:
We're all laughing now, but just remember when it comes time to redo Roy's contract in 2006 or 2007, we'll be leading the torch mob to Snyder's palace. If Archuleta can get this kind of contract, imagine what Roy will get? *shiver*



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Bingo....ouch.
 

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Dale said:
That's a lot of dough to pony up for a guy who has three career interceptions, recorded 0 forced fumbles last sesaon, recovered only one....though he did have 3.5 sacks.

I've tried to be unbiased in all of the 'Skins signings (saying that, despite overpaying Randle El, he brings speed -- which I was corrected on, and told it's quickness more so than speed -- etc.), but I've always considered Archuleta one of the more overrated players at his position. I guess I can feel that way even more so now that he's making $5 million a year.

Geeze, I don't even play and he only has three more than I do...LOL
 

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AdamJT13 said:
That report isn't quite accurate. Archuleta's signing bonus was only $5 million, which makes his cap number $1.585 million this season. He has a $5 million option bonus due next season. So the Skins could just cut him after one season. and have just $4 million in dead money, either all in 2007 or split between 2007 and 2008.


So the Skins could just cut him after one season. and have just $4 million in dead money


seems to be the way they operate!
 

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Eddie said:
Is this the Commanders forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Commanders, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Commanders.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE Commanders !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Commanders.

My point exactly......Until we beat them....we cant laugh and talk about what they do.....Beating the Commanders ON THE FIELD is the only thing that matters
 

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bbgun said:
This guy's a bust. He had a great combine and conned the Rams. He's no better than Bowens.
exactly. The skins are spending a pretty penny to tread water at best. They also lost Ryan Clark. They've actually gotten worse at safety, and might lose Taylor as well.
 

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TobiasEagle77 said:
exactly. The skins are spending a pretty penny to tread water at best. They also lost Ryan Clark. They've actually gotten worse at safety, and might lose Taylor as well.


what's up tobias?? Haven't seen you around for a while?:cool:
 

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HomeOfLegends said:
This is crazy!

Commanders | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Commanders S Adam Archuleta signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Commanders. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

:lmao:
Every present & future safety in the league just got a HUGE bargaining chip.
Archuleta has had 5 concussions... thats 2 mil per....
 

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cowheel said:
:lmao:
Every present & future safety in the league just got a HUGE bargaining chip.
Archuleta has had 5 concussions... thats 2 mil per....


5 concussions are you serious???
 

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Eddie said:
Is this the Commanders forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Commanders, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Commanders.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE Commanders !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Commanders.

Well trust me the skins fans have plenty of threads about us, but I understand your point.

However, I think the issue is why does this owner continue to do the same thing year after year after year without the expected results?


And we can't pretend that we do not care, because when our boys don't do well or have a good offseason the first thing that comes up is a comparison of other owners.


Oh... time will tell and this is just the beginning.
I think Jerry has a trump card up his sleeve.
:star:
 

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dmq said:
BTW, those guys are already about to dance around w/ the trophy over there.


Well... you're kinda-sorta right. The SKins are never in the trouble the media makes them out to be in, but... they are in trouble. The media gleefully reported that they were at $114 million against the cap when any fifth-grader could figure out that there were very simple steps they could take to step under it (mostly by reconfiguring guaranteed bonuses, which they did). As I've said before, it ain't cap hell, but it is cap heck.

Here's the problem for the Skins with the cap: they're thin. They devote a greater proportion of their cap dollars to the few players at the top than most teams do, and the result is that they have to rely on very cheap players to fill out the roster. Take a look at the cap numbers for the playoff teams last year: the Skins devote more cap room to fewer players at the top than the others. Every team has a handful of players who eat up lots of the cap, but the Skins take it to the extreme. Couple that with pretty poor drafting outside of the first two rounds, and you've got a problem.

When other teams lose an offensive lineman, they don't have to turn to a 45 year old. The Skins do. And they're still in that boat. They're going to be a very talented squad this fall, but they're not very far from being a terribly untalented squad.

Picture this: Springs gets injured. Or Griffin. Or Jansen. The talent level at those positions drops precipitiously. Now, no team has all-pros waiting in the wings, but other teams have slightly better backups because they pay them and develop them better. The Skins tend to have bargain-basement journeymen as backups, not future starters or significant contributors being developed. We have seen this at linebacker -- young players turning into starters over time -- but then they immediately leave, so I'm not sure it's a great example.

For the Skins prior to recent renegotiations, the top 8 players eat up about a third of the cap for 2006. That has changed, esp with the departure of Lavar, but there is the question of philosophy: if you have $5 million in cap room, what do you do with it?

Do you (A) sign two big talent stars, or (B) sign four pretty darn good players? That will, of course, depend on your needs, but if you always land on the "A" side of the fence, I suspect you end up in trouble eventually.

The Skins were remarkably healthy last year. None of their critical players went down until Thomas was KO'ed. Portis played in the playoffs pretty banged up. Imagine if Moss or Portis had been injured? Or Springs? Or Cooley?

You go from Cooley to Royal (last year). You go from Moss to... umm... well... I guess nobody. We know what you got when Thomas went out. So don't celebrate the Skins cap management too much. Everyone who writes that the Skins will have to demolish the team to get under the cap is a fool, but anyone who thinks there isn't a price for the way they manage the cap is also a fool.

Well said.
 

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stilltheguru said:
at first i didnt think roy would ask for alot when he had to re-up but now that i see this contract he will.thanks alot skins.:mad:
The Eagles Michael Lewis is coming up for UFA next year too.
 

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1fisher said:
5 concussions are you serious???

Yeah ...
got a friend who is a HUGE lifelong Rams fan.

I asked him about the signing... he says if he was worth that they would have paid him... in addition he's had like 5 concussions..lol

Not sure if thats exact - but this guys a Rams fanatic...
 

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TheHustler said:
On the downside, Roy is going to ask for a LOT next year when it's time for him to re-up.

Well, I wouldn't break the bank on him, I don't think he's nearly as good as I thought he would be.
 

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BroGreg said:
I think the issue is why does this owner continue to do the same thing year after year after year without the expected results?
He actually did get the results last season...From coming in last in the division the year before, he leap frogged both Philly and the Cowboys into
2nd place (and they actually finished the year better than the Giants)...they went to the playoffs...they won a playoff game...they were 1 win from playing for the NFC championship.

Will they get it done this year? who knows...I sure hope not, but I'm sure he's putting his money into the goal of getting to or beyond the championship game this year.
 

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sbuscha said:
How is it they have cap room to do this? These guys are no accountants are they...:lmao2:

Are you kidding me? They have great acccountants. They are the only team I know that can be $20m over the cap and turn around and sign a boat load of high priced FA that teams that are $20m under the cap can't afford to sign.

If I were JJ, I wouldn't put my money in coaches, I would put my money investing in the Commanders' accountants.
 

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kingwhicker said:
Those fools could've drafted some jabroni in the 3rd or 4th round that would have been just as good as Archuleta and have an upside.

:eek: :eek: :confused: :confused: :laugh2: :lmao: :lmao: :D ;)
 

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Archuleta isn't terrible, and he is a pretty good SS, which is how they are probably going to use him. Taylor at FS and AA at SS is not a bad tandom, and better than Davis and Williams. Salaries aside of course.
 

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Just goes to show, you bail em out, they dont learn. This next time Snyders back is against the wall, Tags better not bail him out. Thats the ibiggest travesty aboutthis whole CBA crap. They let the skins walk. And whats Snyder do. Immediately grabs the shovel and starts digging the next Commander grave. Stupid freak of a little man.
 

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TobiasEagle77 said:
sup fisher. yeah, I don't post as obsesively as I once did :)


we're getting slammed with skins fans.....good to see someone else for a change!
 
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