Update: Stallworth Grief Stricken Over Accident... (Reportedly Over the legal limit)

[dadymat]

if he was sober it's ok? That logic is so moronic I refuse to believe you're serious.

if he was not drunk then it could be considered an accident ...whats so hard to understand about that?

 

[dadymat]

Be careful what kind of world you wish for. Someday, it might come knocking on your door.

what, did you read that in a fortune cookie.....?

or are you trying to say that i shouldnt want harsh punishment for murderers because one day i may be one too?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

news reports stallworths b.a.l. was .12 but cops wont confirm it

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3997609

if that's true, looks like more than a couple beers

I blew a .12 my 1st time out, and I consumed like 15 beers in a 2-3 hour period

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

if he was sober it's ok? That logic is so moronic I refuse to believe you're serious.

You're moronic, neocon boy.

You are just so plumb crazy to believe that a sober person would be held to the same standard as a drunken driver.

Don't you get it?:bang2:

Drink and drive is bad. Very bad. If drink and drive and kill person MUCHO BAD!!!!!!!
Sober and drive and accident is bad, but it is an ACCIDENT. Your logic is so moronic I refuse to believe YOU are serious.

 

[the kid 05]

if that's true, looks like more than a couple beers

I blew a .12 my 1st time out, and I consumed like 15 beers in a 2-3 hour period

if i remember right, he did four shots of patron and had 2 margaritas, but the lower your body fat %age is the higher it messes you up. so its probable that he stopped drinking well before 7am

 

[the kid 05]

what, did you read that in a fortune cookie.....?

or are you trying to say that i shouldnt want harsh punishment for murderers because one day i may be one too?

Think hes trying to say would you still say give him the punishments your calling for if it were your son or daughter?

 

[irvin4evs]

You're moronic, neocon boy.

You are just so plumb crazy to believe that a sober person would be held to the same standard as a drunken driver.

Don't you get it?:bang2:

Drink and drive is bad. Very bad. If drink and drive and kill person MUCHO BAD!!!!!!!
Sober and drive and accident is bad, but it is an ACCIDENT. Your logic is so moronic I refuse to believe YOU are serious.

So when you drink and kill someone it is on purpose. I get it now. Thank you.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

So when you drink and kill someone it is on purpose. I get it now. Thank you.

Yes, Einstein because you make the decision to drink and then drive when you know it is not lawful or morally right.


Been around a lot of lead have you?

 

[dadymat]

Think hes trying to say would you still say give him the punishments your calling for if it were your son or daughter?

oh geez..................the crime of murder should be punishable by death no matter who it is.....if it happened to my children hell no i wouldnt want them to die for it , there is nothing on this planet that would make me wish that on them..........but that is just natural parental instincts.......now why dont you quit crying for the criminal and start crying for the victims....

if the guy was drunk and killed your children would you want him to do life or die or just 5 years and be set free to do it again?

 

[Audiman]

Yes, Einstein because you make the decision to drink and then drive when you know it is not lawful or morally right.


Been around a lot of lead have you?

seriously? I bet you play by all the rules. we better not see you speeding...

scenerio #1- you're driving with a BAC of .081. a guy(jaywalking) runs out in front of you. you hit him and he dies. who's fault is it?

scenerio #2- you're driving and talking on your cell phone. a guy(jaywalking) runs out in front of you. you hit him and he dies. who's fault is it?

scenerio #3- you're driving sober and not talking on your cell phone. a guy(jaywalking) runs out in front of you. you hit him and he dies. who's fault is it?

 

[dadymat]

seriously? I bet you play by all the rules. we better not see you speeding...

scenerio #1- you're driving with a BAC of .081. a guy(jaywalking) runs out in front of you. you hit him and he dies. who's fault is it?

scenerio #2- you're driving and talking on your cell phone. a guy(jaywalking) runs out in front of you. you hit him and he dies. who's fault is it?

scenerio #3- you're driving sober and not talking on your cell phone. a guy(jaywalking) runs out in front of you. you hit him and he dies. who's fault is it?

scenario#4- you give 3 more scenarios and none clears this drunk guy from driving recklessly and being at fault for killing another man

what does a guy have to do around here before some will just admit that some people are guilty and should be punished?

 

[the kid 05]

oh geez..................the crime of murder should be punishable by death no matter who it is.....if it happened to my children hell no i wouldnt want them to die for it , there is nothing on this planet that would make me wish that on them..........but that is just natural parental instincts.......now why dont you quit crying for the criminal and start crying for the victims....

if the guy was drunk and killed your children would you want him to do life or die or just 5 years and be set free to do it again?

hey i was interperting it. my father was one of those fools who drunk and drove and took a life, albet it was his own due to a car crash but i know the repercussions from drinking and driving no need to act all high and mighty

 

[dadymat]

hey i was interperting it. my father was one of those fools who drunk and drove and took a life, albet it was his own due to a car crash but i know the repercussions from drinking and driving no need to act all high and mighty

im not acting all high and mighty.....im acting just.....I too know the repercussions of a drunk driver......and i am sorry about your father

 

[Jon88]

Exactly! we love to see a man get jammed up, everyone is waiting for him to get locked up and fall...they just want to see something bad...weather its justified or not, as Americans everyone loves to see a guy get jammed up

That's true, and it's absurd. The pigs have a hand in it I think.

 

[Beast_from_East]

They do that in the middle east, the most civilized part of the world.

A buddy of mine went over there to do some contract work and he was telling me one day that if you are found guilty of a crime, the victim can chose to have the same thing done to you as your puinishment.

For example, if somebody assualted you and broke your arm, you can tell the court to break his arm as puinishment and they do it!!!

I guess it is "an eye for an eye" type of thing to them over there, of course here in the US the courts would rule that "cruel and unusual puinishment" and declare it unconstitutional.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If the report is true the Stallworth had a .12 bal, he is getting more than 4 months fellas.

Seriously, at .12 you are wasted and your reaction time is considerably slower than normal. If a guy walked out in front of your car there would be almost no way for you to react quickly enough to even slow down with a .12 bal.

He is defiently going to be charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter with a .12 and like some other posters have said, he is going to get totally wiped out in the civil suit. We are talking probably tens of millions of dollars here.

 

[montgod]

If the report is true the Stallworth had a .12 bal, he is getting more than 4 months fellas.

Seriously, at .12 you are wasted and your reaction time is considerably slower than normal. If a guy walked out in front of your car there would be almost no way for you to react quickly enough to even slow down with a .12 bal.

He is defiently going to be charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter with a .12 and like some other posters have said, he is going to get totally wiped out in the civil suit. We are talking probably tens of millions of dollars here.

Not necessarily... Leonard Little did only 90 days and his level was .19.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Not necessarily... Leonard Little did only 90 days and his level was .19.

But I think Stallworth has a previous DUI on his record so this would make it a second offense, correct???



In Texas, Intoxicated Manslaughter is 2-20 yrs on first offense. I have no idea what it is in Florida, could be alot lower.


Stallworth is lucky the accident didnt happen in Texas.

 

[peplaw06]

Here is what transpired with Leonard Little, DE for the Rams who went through a similar ordeal. This is taken from Wikipedia:

Manslaughter Conviction
After attending a drunken birthday party in 1998, Little crashed into and killed another motorist, Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, MO. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent, a level that exceeds the statutory level of intoxication of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little received 90 days in jail, four years probation and 1000 hours of community service. The NFL suspended Little for 8 games that year.


Second arrest
Six years later, in 2004, Little was again arrested for drunk driving and speeding.[5] The probable cause statement filed by police said Little had bloodshot and watery eyes, smelled of alcohol and failed three sobriety tests. Because of Little's 1999 guilty plea to involuntary manslaughter in his drunken-driving crash case, prosecutors charged him as a persistent offender. This made it a felony case. Little was acquitted of driving while intoxicated, but was convicted only of the misdemeanor speeding charge.

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Seems like Stallworth should be just fine...

There are a LOT of reasons this will probably be different. First, Missouri is not Florida, so there are different laws, prosecutors and judges.

Second, and probably the biggest difference was Little's Manslaughter conviction was in 1998. It's a completely different world in the DWI/DUI landscape today. MADD has campaigned around the country for stricter laws re: DWI/DUI and the crimes like intox manslaughter, and they've been very successful.

I obviously don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt that he's going to get off as easy as Little did. It would get a lot more bad publicity today.

 

[irvin4evs]

im not acting all high and mighty.....im acting just....

Thank you so much for doing that.