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Hostile you don't know how much joy I get every time am reminded that the Broncos hold the Commander's 2006 1st RD pick :lmao:
 

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Cbz40 said:
I believe our highest drafted OL was was Steve Wisniewski....2nd rd (1989) ever hear of him??????

We drafted Eric Williams and Mark Stepnoski in the 3rd.
In 1964 we used the 4th overall pick in the Draft for Scott Appleton, an OT from Texas.

In 1966 we used the 6th overall pick for OG John Niland from Iowa.

In 1979 we used the 27th overall pick for Robert Shaw, C from Tennessee.

In 1981 we used the 26th overall pick for Howard Richards, OT from Missouri.

All would be selected before Wisniewski whom we traded to the Raiders.
 

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Charles said:
Hostile you don't know how much joy I get every time am reminded that the Broncos hold the Commander's 2006 1st RD pick :lmao:
Warms my heart too.
 

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I say go OT, it's not glamorous, but we will defenitely see a difference when it's time to move the ball on the ground and thru the air.

I promise you, if we build this OLine, we will start a dynasty for years to come - pick up a prospect QB in the middle rounds for grooming, and pick up that speedy WR "Curtis" from St Louis, get an outside demon LB in the 3rd or 4th round, and I think we're on our way.
 

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I say go OT, it's not glamorous, but we will defenitely see a difference when it's time to move the ball on the ground and thru the air.

I promise you, if we build this OLine, we will start a dynasty for years to come - pick up a prospect QB in the middle rounds for grooming, and pick up that speedy WR "Curtis" from St Louis, get an outside demon LB in the 3rd or 4th round, and I think we're on our way.

:hammer:

I can think of plenty of Super Bowl winners with mediocre QB, mediocre defenses, mediocre RBs, mediocre WRs, etc. I can't think of any off the top of my head who got there compensating for mediocre offensive line play.

While Jerry may not like taking an offensive tackle in the first, Parcells has no such problem. Left Tackles are worth a first rounder.
 

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My standard answer: wait until we sign our free agents and see what holes are left.
 

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Hostile said:
In 1964 we used the 4th overall pick in the Draft for Scott Appleton, an OT from Texas.

In 1966 we used the 6th overall pick for OG John Niland from Iowa.

In 1979 we used the 27th overall pick for Robert Shaw, C from Tennessee.

In 1981 we used the 26th overall pick for Howard Richards, OT from Missouri.

All would be selected before Wisniewski whom we traded to the Raiders.


Other than Niland... that list doesn't knock my socks off. Shaw was horrid. Richards nearly so. I'm much happier taking a lineman in round 2.
 

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zagnut said:
:hammer:

I can think of plenty of Super Bowl winners with mediocre QB, mediocre defenses, mediocre RBs, mediocre WRs, etc. I can't think of any off the top of my head who got there compensating for mediocre offensive line play.

While Jerry may not like taking an offensive tackle in the first, Parcells has no such problem. Left Tackles are worth a first rounder.


You've got a left tackle.
 

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Cbz40 said:
I believe our highest drafted OL was was Steve Wisniewski....2nd rd (1989) ever hear of him??????

We drafted Eric Williams and Mark Stepnoski in the 3rd.

Steve Wisniewski was drafted with the 29th overall pick, the first overall 2nd round pick at the time. I'm not sure Jerry has any problem drafting a o-lineman in the first, just maybe not in the early first.

Larry Allen - 2nd rd. (17th pick) - also went with a fairly high draft pick.
 

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zagnut said:
Steve Wisniewski was drafted with the 29th overall pick, the first overall 2nd round pick at the time. I'm not sure Jerry has any problem drafting a o-lineman in the first, just maybe not in the early first.

Larry Allen - 2nd rd. (17th pick) - also went with a fairly high draft pick.


I dont think either Jerry or Bill would hesitate drafting an OL with a high draft choice depending on the player that would be there.

My point that over the years we have done well drafting OL in the later rds.
 

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You've got a left tackle.

I have a 30 going on 31 year old left tackle coming off a season ending knee injury who was never the quickest or most disciplined player to begin with. Hoping for the best, but anyone thinking Flo has many more years at the LT position is lying to themselves.

My point is it's the position on the line you build around. It already costs much money to fill the position with even average players and is therefore worth a first rounder.

It's also the position on the line most responsible for protecting the blind side of most teams' big money player -- another reason why it's a position worth taking.

It's also the most difficult line position to fill, current difficulties with our Centers notwithstanding -- another reason why it's worth taking.
 

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Like last year getting Petitti in the 6th. :D :D :D


Hey.....say what you will.....as things turn out it was a good thing we drafted him. :D The book is still open on Rob. ;)
 

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Cbz40 said:
Hey.....say what you will.....as things turn out it was a good thing we drafted him. :D The book is still open on Rob. ;)
Next year, we will be happy he is a Cowboy. His improvement will be very noticeable.
 

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Cbz40 said:
I dont think either Jerry or Bill would hesitate drafting an OL with a high draft choice depending on the player that would be there.

My point that over the years we have done well drafting OL in the later rds.

Absolutely. I can't find the thread but I think Junk posted something about how many of the OLs considered to be among the best in the league are built using later rounders and even undrafted free agents.

(The main exception to most of those top lines was the LT position.)

It's one of the reasons I'm hopeful for guys like Petitti and Peterman. Like Boxer puppies, I don't expect to see greatness from day one. :)
 

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I am reading some disturbing thoughts in this thread.

Don't draft a OL high because we have never done well with them and draft them later because historically we hae done better?

That is completely and utterly foolish and superstitious.
 

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Alexander said:
I am reading some disturbing thoughts in this thread.

Don't draft a OL high because we have never done well with them and draft them later because historically we hae done better?

That is completely and utterly foolish and superstitious.


I think you may be missreading the thread......Most agree that they would not be opposed to drafting an OL in the early rounds.

Some were simply posting that in the past we have been fortuanate in some of the players that were taken in the latter rds.
 

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It's the hardest thing to do is to draft a player out of the spotlight positions in the 1st round.

You just have to suck it up, be strong, and go after a Tackle and Center or Guard. Then you can refocus and start looking at WR, OLB, MLB, FS, DT, Kicker - Get what you want in these areas, but you have to fix the line.
 

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Cowboy_love_4ever said:
It's the hardest thing to do is to draft a player out of the spotlight positions in the 1st round.

You just have to suck it up, be strong, and go after a Tackle and Center or Guard. Then you can refocus and start looking at WR, OLB, MLB, FS, DT, Kicker - Get what you want in these areas, but you have to fix the line.


and that is another good debate......do you draft for need or do you draft for Best player avaiable?
 

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Hey.....say what you will.....as things turn out it was a good thing we drafted him. :D The book is still open on Rob. ;)

No doubt Rob has struggled. His struggles have been magnified since the loss of Flozell. But you cannot discount the fact that he's a rookie 6th round pick.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think an offseason in the weight room and a year of starting experience under his belt will help Rob immensely.
 
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