Vela: How Strong Was the “Wade Phillips Effect?”

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http://www.blueandsilverreport.com/2008/05/11/how-strong-was-the-wade-phillips-effect/


May 11th, 2008 by Rafael Vela
How Strong Was the “Wade Phillips Effect?”

At this time last year the defensive players were taking some veiled and not to veiled shots at Bill Parcells and his straight up, two-gap version of the 3-4. New HC Wade Phillips was promising a more aggressive one-gap scheme that let his front seven attack across the line of scrimmage.

One year later, it’s time to assess how much of a “Wade Phillips Effect” the son of Bum produced. Last May, I looked at Phillips’ teams’ won-loss records and defensive performances at each of his five previous NFL stops. Note that in both Denver and Buffalo, Phillips was elevated to the head coaching role, so I’m not taking those two seasons into account. I want to see the difference in the year ones on Wade Phillips’ resume.

Stop One — Philadelphia, ‘86 through ‘88

Jeff Fisher and Gregg Williams come to mind when you think Buddy Ryan disciples, but Phillips was Ryan’s first DC when Buddy took over the Eagles.

Team Record Pts. Allowed Rank Rush Rank Pass Rank
‘85 Eagles 7-9 310 10th 5th 21st
‘86 Eagles 5-10-1 312 12th 15th 19th

This is the only stop on Wade’s itinerary where his team dropped in wins during his first year on the job. The defensive performance from Marion Campbell’s ‘85 team to Ryan’s ‘86 team was about the same, allowing 310 points the first year and 312 the second. Note that Phillips was running Ryan’s 46 not the 34 he and daddy Bum Phillips perfected in Houston during the “Love ‘Ya Blue” ’70s.

Stop Two — Denver, 1989 through 1994

Phillips gets control of a 34, taking over for long time 34 guru Joe Collier under Dan Reeves.

Team Record Pts. Allowed Rank Rush Rank Pass Rank
‘88 Broncos 8-8 352 20th 27th 7th
‘89 Broncos 11-5 226 1st 7th 3rd

Phillips deserves a ton of credit for this turnaround. He adds rookie Steve Atwater to a veteran defense that has already gone to two Super Bowls under Collier and cuts their points allowed by 126 points, almost eight points per game. Phillips makes a huge improvement in rush defense, pulling the Broncos from 27th to 7th.

Stop Three — Buffalo, 1995 through 2000

Phillips enters a situation similar to Denver’s. He takes over a veteran defense that has already gone to four Super Bowls under 34 DC Walt Corey. The Bills, much like the ’90s Cowboys, dominate on the power of their offense, which ranked 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 7th its four Super Bowl years. The Bills’ defensive rankings those four seasons — in points allowed — were 6th, 19th, 14th and 5th. They had fallen to 22nd in Corey’s last year on the job.

Team Record Pts. Allowed Rank Rush Rank Pass Rank
‘94 Bills 7-9 356 22nd 8th 21st
‘95 Bills 10-6 335 12th 11th 20th

A modest improvement. Phillips got the aging defense to play at a slightly better level, as the Bills were 7-0 in games decided by six points or less.

Stop Four — Atlanta, 2002-2003

Phillips makes his second tour under Dan Reeves and revives the young Falcons D.

Team Record Pts. Allowed Rank Rush Rank Pass Rank
‘01 Falcons 7-9 377 24st 21st 13th
‘02 Falcons 9-6-1 314 8th 23rd 16th

Stop Five, San Diego 2004 - 2006

Phillips joins Marty Schottenheimer and contributes to an 8 win turnaround. Players like Drew Brees say he made the biggest difference in the transformation.

Team Record Pts. Allowed Rank Rush Rank Pass Rank
‘03 Chargers 4-12 441 31st 26th 23rd
‘04 Chargers 12-4 313 11th 1st 32nd

Brees might be right. The ‘04 Chargers D had nowhere to go but up, ranking next to last in ‘03. Still, Phillips made the change greatly on scheme. Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips and Luis Castillo were all still in college at this point. Phillips used NT Jamal Williams as the anchor in his league-best run defense, contributing to a 128 drop in points allowed.

Stop Six, Dallas 2007 to present

Team Record Pts. Allowed Rank Rush Rank Pass Rank
‘06 Cowboys 9-7 350 20th 10th 24th
‘07 Cowboys 13-3 325 13th 6th 13th

What can we conclude from this?

1. In his previous four stops, where Phillips ran his own scheme, his teams improved an average of four wins a season, adding three each in Denver and Buffalo, two and a half in Atlanta and eight in San Deigo.

Phillips kept to that pace, upping the Cowboys’ win total by four.

2. All his defenses reduced points allowed. Where the defenses were already pretty good, he improved them modestly. Where they were bad, he made vast improvements. The worst any of his first-year Ds finished was 12th in points allowed.

The ‘07 Cowboys followed the same trend, making a modest improvement in points allowed. Statistically, we saw the worst first-year defense ever, as this D finished 13th.

3. Phillips’ attacking style does not come at the expense of run defense. Notice the turnarounds in Denver and San Diego, where his teams went from terrible to excellent in rush defense and reaped the benefits in the standings.

The same was true last year. Even with Jason Ferguson gone all year, the Cowboys run D finished 6th.

4. Weak secondaries have bedeviled Phillips. He hasn’t had a top-notch coverage group since his Denver days, when he had Mark Haynes, Steve Atwater and Dennis Smith in deep patrol.

His Dallas team looked promising but suffered a lot of injuries at corner, with Terence Newman and Anthony Henry gimping for significant parts of the campaign. You can see Ken Hamlin’s value, however. The Cowboys jumped from 24th to 13th against the pass, even with Jacques Reeves starting at one corner spot for thirteen games.

Wade accomplished what he had at every previous spot. It’s all been overlooked by the playoff loss to New York but Phillips kept Parcells’ defense almost intact, added Hamlin, reaped the surprise of Greg Ellis’ strong return and got his guys home field for the playoffs.

A beefed up secondary and a few new position coaches better versed in his techniques offers the promise of better defensive play in ‘08. Phillips will need it, or he might be looking to reprise his first year magic at a new address in ‘09.
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The Cowboys jumped from 24th to 13th against the pass, even with Jacques Reeves starting at one corner spot for thirteen games.

It sure didn't seem that way, did it?

This gives me much hope for Dallas' secondary in 2008.
 

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Manster68;2082398 said:
The Cowboys jumped from 24th to 13th against the pass, even with Jacques Reeves starting at one corner spot for thirteen games.

It sure didn't seem that way, did it?

This gives me much hope for Dallas' secondary in 2008.


Yep, we should be even better this year.
 

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Manster68;2082398 said:
The Cowboys jumped from 24th to 13th against the pass, even with Jacques Reeves starting at one corner spot for thirteen games.

It sure didn't seem that way, did it?

This gives me much hope for Dallas' secondary in 2008.

do you remember 2006? defenses were torching dallas, especially with the deep middle pass on bradie and roy. 2007 was just a slow bleed on reeves and jones.
 

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God, I hope he stays for the next decade. Defensive genius.
 

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Kind of makes you wonder if we want Garrett to become HC anytime soon, doesn't it?

A guy doesn't go from HC of a club to DC though.
 

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theogt;2082550 said:
God, I hope he stays for the next decade. Defensive genius.

It would be amazing to see what he can do with plenty of time... The guy, considering his credentials, deserves enough to really make his mark...
 

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theogt;2082550 said:
God, I hope he stays for the next decade. Defensive genius.

That he is.

But if he can't win a playoff game as a head coach with one of the most talented teams in the league, he is useless.
 

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Alexander;2082590 said:
That he is.

But if he can't win a playoff game as a head coach with one of the most talented teams in the league, he is useless.
I just hope it doesn't go down like last year...when the offense deserved 90% of the blame, but Wade took the heat.

Defensive coaches are so much more valuable than offensive coaches.
 

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theogt;2082596 said:
I just hope it doesn't go down like last year...when the offense deserved 90% of the blame, but Wade took the heat.

Defensive coaches are so much more valuable than offensive coaches.

Are you referring to the season or the playoff debacle?

If it is the season, I think you are way off base. If it is the playoff game, that's completely true.
 

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Alexander;2082598 said:
Are you referring to the season or the playoff debacle?

If it is the season, I think you are way off base. If it is the playoff game, that's completely true.
Playoff game. If Wade's defense makes 3 huge stops at the end of the game and the offense comes up with 4 straight goose eggs, and WADE gets fired, I'd go nuts.
 

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theogt;2082600 said:
Playoff game.

The offense did not carry its weight in the second half. But the defense wasn't perfect. It had a great second half, but the collapse in the final two minutes was devastating after we had seized the momentum.

Like Terrell Owens said, it was a team loss.

Overall, Phillips will have to prove he's more than a glorified coordinator who can coach very well in terms of Xs and Os but can't manage a team.

He has to learn how to manage personalities and be able to read the team's mood and react accordingly. The entire team seemed very overconfident. If he's the head coach, then he has to squash that.

That tempo came straight from Phillips. He proved that by basically excusing the loss and then claiming that a bye was the same as a win.

Until he wins a playoff game, he's a great coordinator but a lousy head coach.
 

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theogt;2082600 said:
Playoff game. If Wade's defense makes 3 huge stops at the end of the game and the offense comes up with 4 straight goose eggs, and WADE gets fired, I'd go nuts.

He's the head coach. Why wouldn't he have to be accountable?

Other head coaches are responsible for the team's production. He should not be any different.

It seems to me like you are looking at him like a defensive coordinator. And that might not be far off from the truth.
 

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Alexander;2082608 said:
The offense did not carry its weight in the second half. But the defense wasn't perfect. It had a great second half, but the collapse in the final two minutes was devastating after we had seized the momentum.

Like Terrell Owens said, it was a team loss.

Overall, Phillips will have to prove he's more than a glorified coordinator who can coach very well in terms of Xs and Os but can't manage a team.

He has to learn how to manage personalities and be able to read the team's mood and react accordingly. The entire team seemed very overconfident. If he's the head coach, then he has to squash that.

That tempo came straight from Phillips. He proved that by basically excusing the loss and then claiming that a bye was the same as a win.

Until he wins a playoff game, he's a great coordinator but a lousy head coach.
Like I said earlier, I'd say 90% blame on offense, 10% on defense. Even before that game it seemed like teams had started learning how to defend Garrett's offense. I remember some player, I think it was a player on the Eagles, that said they'd figured out how to defend Garrett. Sure, there was TO's injury in the late season, but it seemed like it went beyond that. Obviously it was a great 1st year for Garrett, but he's going to have to re-invent himself every year to be competitive.
 

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theogt;2082611 said:
Like I said earlier, I'd say 90% blame on offense, 10% on defense.

Your percentages are a bit harsh. I would go 70/30.

A healthy Owens makes a difference in that game. Owens completely destroyed the Giants in the Meadowlands. He wasn't healthy and I am sure that Garrett planned around that. And in a way, it was working like a charm until around two minutes left in the first half when the defense came up small.

Even before that game it seemed like teams had started learning how to defend Garrett's offense. I remember some player, I think it was a player on the Eagles, that said they'd figured out how to defend Garrett. Sure, there was TO's injury in the late season, but it seemed like it went beyond that. Obviously it was a great 1st year for Garrett, but he's going to have to re-invent himself every year to be competitive.

Every coach has to do that. I am sure someone "figured out" Phillips as well over the years.
 

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Alexander;2082608 said:
The offense did not carry its weight in the second half. But the defense wasn't perfect. It had a great second half, but the collapse in the final two minutes was devastating after we had seized the momentum.

Like Terrell Owens said, it was a team loss.

Overall, Phillips will have to prove he's more than a glorified coordinator who can coach very well in terms of Xs and Os but can't manage a team.

He has to learn how to manage personalities and be able to read the team's mood and react accordingly. The entire team seemed very overconfident. If he's the head coach, then he has to squash that.

That tempo came straight from Phillips. He proved that by basically excusing the loss and then claiming that a bye was the same as a win.

Until he wins a playoff game, he's a great coordinator but a lousy head coach.

LOL at most of this post.
 

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Alexander;2082615 said:
Your percentages are a bit harsh. I would go 70/30.

A healthy Owens makes a difference in that game. Owens completely destroyed the Giants in the Meadowlands. He wasn't healthy and I am sure that Garrett planned around that. And in a way, it was working like a charm until around two minutes left in the first half when the defense came up small.
It worked for one drive in the entire game. I'd hardly say that's "working." 70/30 is pretty generous on the offense. Four straight drives in the 2nd half, and we couldn't come up with squat.

Every coach has to do that. I am sure someone "figured out" Phillips as well over the years.
Yeah, maybe a few times out of 30 or so years. Garrett's batting 1.000 right now.

I just look at Romo, TO, and Witten, and think a monkey could have coached that offense. Then look at a hobbled Newman, Henry, and Reeves and Jones, and think ... wow, he actually coached the hell out of that defense.
 

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theogt;2082611 said:
Like I said earlier, I'd say 90% blame on offense, 10% on defense. Even before that game it seemed like teams had started learning how to defend Garrett's offense. I remember some player, I think it was a player on the Eagles, that said they'd figured out how to defend Garrett. Sure, there was TO's injury in the late season, but it seemed like it went beyond that. Obviously it was a great 1st year for Garrett, but he's going to have to re-invent himself every year to be competitive.

So figuring out Garrett means Romo injuring his thumb and getting Owens injured? Both happened and Dallas was doing just fine against Carolina on offense until Owens got hurt. And for NYG figuring out Garrett, they had a funny way of showing it as Dallas had 7 more first downs, 106 more total yards (which included 64 more rushing yards) and had the ball for 13 minutes longer.

Where the G-Men made up for it was in field position. Both of Dallas' TD drives combined for 29 plays and 191 yards. That's not to mention the 2 drops (Fasano and Crayton).

I really believe the Eagles are taking too much stock into their win. Garrett and the offense had an off day, helped by an injury to Romo. Instead they got housed by the Dallas offense at Philly in *week 9*. What, did Jerry steal Philly's tape of the Dallas offense?





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