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I have been one of the teams strongest "believers" in terms of getting it done and have gone on record saying this will be our year. Having said that here are a few observations from my point of view:

1. I'm not sure, short of a miraculous turnaround, how Linehan can keep his job. I think he is already bought and paid for. His play calling is quite simply idiotic.

2. I think Garrett is safe for this year barring a complete collapse. You guys won't like that but Linehan is going to be the scapegoat, and also in fact the actual culprit. He's an idiot.

3. I'm seriously concerned about Tyron. He may be on the verge of being done.

4. I would try to trade Lee for something now. If I could get a second or a third he's gone. Get something out of him now while he has value.

5. The Amari Cooper trade was about several things, including improving the team. But possibly most importantly, if you believe he is the real deal, it tells you that the team is eliminating a bad receiving corps as an excuse, for everyone. It eliminates the shell game and should expose the real culprit.

6. I'm all for running the ball early and often, but the choice of runs by Linehan is maddening. Predictability and running into the strength of the defense is idiotic.

7. I'm not sure if Dak is the guy or not. But the offensive line has been putrid. I'm on the fence with Dak. OTOH I'm not sure who you would replace Dak with in the draft or free agency.

8. Those of you still clammoring for Dez are delusional. The Cooper trade tells you all you need to know. Dez is not in the teams plans, and rightly so.

9. The team actually plays better with LVE on the field than Lee.

10. Dallas is still in the hunt in the NFC East. If this defense can continue to improve we will have a shot at winning the division.

11. I don't think that the receivers have been the problem with this team, yet Cooper was upgrade. It won't matter if Cooper gets open if Dak can't see him.

12. We "seem" to have signaled that we are most likely going to invest in Cooper long term and he is going to get paid. Right now, as it seems to me Dak is in that group (15 to 20m per year) and Elliott are also in that group.

The salary cap says you can't pay everyone. So Tank and Irving may not be resigned. Does the Cooper trade tip the Cowboys' hand about letting Lawrence walk in a trade to recoup the first round pick we gave up for Cooper?

Does the Cooper trade indicate that Lee or Tank may get moved? No idea. But this was an unusual move for Dallas and for this to make sense the Cowboys may be looking to recoup that #1 pick.
 
Dak gets in the 27M minimum
Your right Garrett is the home boy coach
I invest in an OT if there [TSmith]. The oline has to be addressed
We make 9 wins that might be a wild card
appreciate your post
 
Dak gets in the 27M minimum
Your right Garrett is the home boy coach
I invest in an OT if there [TSmith]. The oline has to be addressed
We make 9 wins that might be a wild card
appreciate your post

27 million per year? I don't think Dak will cost near that much, but a I have been wrong before.
 
what I've noticed about QB contracts lately. The last contract signed is the bench mark
Dak has said he isn't looking for the biggest amount. Not only that but these other guys that have gotten paid big QB money have thrown the ball all over the field. We are a run first team and I think Dak actually signs for a ton less then what people think. It's around 20 more do then 30...... Just my opinion and taking from what I have heard Dak say but we won't know until that time comes.
 
what I've noticed about QB contracts lately. The last contract signed is the bench mark

Yeah but that's been for different situations. Dak is not signing for more then 20 million a year. It wouldn't shock me if it was anywhere between 10-20 million or if he signed a Case Keenum contract.
 
I have been one of the teams strongest "believers" in terms of getting it done and have gone on record saying this will be our year. Having said that here are a few observations from my point of view:

1. I'm not sure, short of a miraculous turnaround, how Linehan can keep his job. I think he is already bought and paid for. His play calling is quite simply idiotic.

2. I think Garrett is safe for this year barring a complete collapse. You guys won't like that but Linehan is going to be the scapegoat, and also in fact the actual culprit. He's an idiot.

3. I'm seriously concerned about Tyron. He may be on the verge of being done.

4. I would try to trade Lee for something now. If I could get a second or a third he's gone. Get something out of him now while he has value.

5. The Amari Cooper trade was about several things, including improving the team. But possibly most importantly, if you believe he is the real deal, it tells you that the team is eliminating a bad receiving corps as an excuse, for everyone. It eliminates the shell game and should expose the real culprit.

6. I'm all for running the ball early and often, but the choice of runs by Linehan is maddening. Predictability and running into the strength of the defense is idiotic.

7. I'm not sure if Dak is the guy or not. But the offensive line has been putrid. I'm on the fence with Dak. OTOH I'm not sure who you would replace Dak with in the draft or free agency.

8. Those of you still clammoring for Dez are delusional. The Cooper trade tells you all you need to know. Dez is not in the teams plans, and rightly so.

9. The team actually plays better with LVE on the field than Lee.

10. Dallas is still in the hunt in the NFC East. If this defense can continue to improve we will have a shot at winning the division.

11. I don't think that the receivers have been the problem with this team, yet Cooper was upgrade. It won't matter if Cooper gets open if Dak can't see him.

12. We "seem" to have signaled that we are most likely going to invest in Cooper long term and he is going to get paid. Right now, as it seems to me Dak is in that group (15 to 20m per year) and Elliott are also in that group.

The salary cap says you can't pay everyone. So Tank and Irving may not be resigned. Does the Cooper trade tip the Cowboys' hand about letting Lawrence walk in a trade to recoup the first round pick we gave up for Cooper?

Does the Cooper trade indicate that Lee or Tank may get moved? No idea. But this was an unusual move for Dallas and for this to make sense the Cowboys may be looking to recoup that #1 pick.
Your #1regarding Linehan is spot on! We can’t be successful on Offense with his basic and predictable game plans and play calls. Many fans don’t realize this but predictable Offense is an Offense killer!!
 
I have been one of the teams strongest "believers" in terms of getting it done and have gone on record saying this will be our year. Having said that here are a few observations from my point of view:

1. I'm not sure, short of a miraculous turnaround, how Linehan can keep his job. I think he is already bought and paid for. His play calling is quite simply idiotic.

2. I think Garrett is safe for this year barring a complete collapse. You guys won't like that but Linehan is going to be the scapegoat, and also in fact the actual culprit. He's an idiot.

3. I'm seriously concerned about Tyron. He may be on the verge of being done.

4. I would try to trade Lee for something now. If I could get a second or a third he's gone. Get something out of him now while he has value.

5. The Amari Cooper trade was about several things, including improving the team. But possibly most importantly, if you believe he is the real deal, it tells you that the team is eliminating a bad receiving corps as an excuse, for everyone. It eliminates the shell game and should expose the real culprit.

6. I'm all for running the ball early and often, but the choice of runs by Linehan is maddening. Predictability and running into the strength of the defense is idiotic.

7. I'm not sure if Dak is the guy or not. But the offensive line has been putrid. I'm on the fence with Dak. OTOH I'm not sure who you would replace Dak with in the draft or free agency.

8. Those of you still clammoring for Dez are delusional. The Cooper trade tells you all you need to know. Dez is not in the teams plans, and rightly so.

9. The team actually plays better with LVE on the field than Lee.

10. Dallas is still in the hunt in the NFC East. If this defense can continue to improve we will have a shot at winning the division.

11. I don't think that the receivers have been the problem with this team, yet Cooper was upgrade. It won't matter if Cooper gets open if Dak can't see him.

12. We "seem" to have signaled that we are most likely going to invest in Cooper long term and he is going to get paid. Right now, as it seems to me Dak is in that group (15 to 20m per year) and Elliott are also in that group.

The salary cap says you can't pay everyone. So Tank and Irving may not be resigned. Does the Cooper trade tip the Cowboys' hand about letting Lawrence walk in a trade to recoup the first round pick we gave up for Cooper?

Does the Cooper trade indicate that Lee or Tank may get moved? No idea. But this was an unusual move for Dallas and for this to make sense the Cowboys may be looking to recoup that #1 pick.
mr Verdict---- i can say i agree with every one of your points...i can see a trade with Tank to recoup a first round pick..and i agree with LVE over Lee too....not sure we could get a 3 for him but who knows?...i am really hoping Irvings miscues make it easy for hometown discount....the dude is nothing short of pure beast when on field....not sure cowboys ok with losing Tank and Irving....but could be?.....i heard 2019 draft class brimming over with D-tackles..so maybe Irving could be toast?....but rather trade our 2017 first rounder before losing Irving....i just aint ready to lose Irving yet or Gregory...Tank has torn labrum in shoulder and i know that must be affecting him...anyways thanks for input...it is quality
 
Nothing will change until JG is gone. Get a new HC. Let him make the decision on who to keep and who to get rid of. That's the first step to having any chance at another SB win.

I know getting rid of Jerry as the GM would be the first step but Jerry isn't about to sell the team so it's not even worth talking about it.
 
I have been one of the teams strongest "believers" in terms of getting it done and have gone on record saying this will be our year. Having said that here are a few observations from my point of view:

1. I'm not sure, short of a miraculous turnaround, how Linehan can keep his job. I think he is already bought and paid for. His play calling is quite simply idiotic.

2. I think Garrett is safe for this year barring a complete collapse. You guys won't like that but Linehan is going to be the scapegoat, and also in fact the actual culprit. He's an idiot.

3. I'm seriously concerned about Tyron. He may be on the verge of being done.

4. I would try to trade Lee for something now. If I could get a second or a third he's gone. Get something out of him now while he has value.

5. The Amari Cooper trade was about several things, including improving the team. But possibly most importantly, if you believe he is the real deal, it tells you that the team is eliminating a bad receiving corps as an excuse, for everyone. It eliminates the shell game and should expose the real culprit.

6. I'm all for running the ball early and often, but the choice of runs by Linehan is maddening. Predictability and running into the strength of the defense is idiotic.

7. I'm not sure if Dak is the guy or not. But the offensive line has been putrid. I'm on the fence with Dak. OTOH I'm not sure who you would replace Dak with in the draft or free agency.

8. Those of you still clammoring for Dez are delusional. The Cooper trade tells you all you need to know. Dez is not in the teams plans, and rightly so.

9. The team actually plays better with LVE on the field than Lee.

10. Dallas is still in the hunt in the NFC East. If this defense can continue to improve we will have a shot at winning the division.

11. I don't think that the receivers have been the problem with this team, yet Cooper was upgrade. It won't matter if Cooper gets open if Dak can't see him.

12. We "seem" to have signaled that we are most likely going to invest in Cooper long term and he is going to get paid. Right now, as it seems to me Dak is in that group (15 to 20m per year) and Elliott are also in that group.

The salary cap says you can't pay everyone. So Tank and Irving may not be resigned. Does the Cooper trade tip the Cowboys' hand about letting Lawrence walk in a trade to recoup the first round pick we gave up for Cooper?

Does the Cooper trade indicate that Lee or Tank may get moved? No idea. But this was an unusual move for Dallas and for this to make sense the Cowboys may be looking to recoup that #1 pick.

There is nothing unusual about their acquisition of Cooper. It fits right in with the overall haphazard way they build rosters around here.

And not sure you can get a 1 for Tank anyway at this point. He’s got a shoulder injury and due a massive payday.

It’s insane to think that if they miss the playoffs again that Garrett can survive, but with these two nitwits in charge, you are probably right that they will find a scapegoat for him.
 
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There is nothing unusual about their acquisition of Cooper. It fits right in with the overall haphazard way they build rosters around here.

And not sure you can get a 1 for Tank anyway at this point. He’s got a shoulder injury and due a massive payday.

As hard as it really is to go build a defensive line with two good defensive ends, we are just going to resolve to try and let loose with the defense's strength up front?
 
Nothing will change until JG is gone. Get a new HC. Let him make the decision on who to keep and who to get rid of. That's the first step to having any chance at another SB win.

I know getting rid of Jerry as the GM would be the first step but Jerry isn't about to sell the team so it's not even worth talking about it.

Up front, who you bringing in?
 
I have been one of the teams strongest "believers" in terms of getting it done and have gone on record saying this will be our year. Having said that here are a few observations from my point of view:

1. I'm not sure, short of a miraculous turnaround, how Linehan can keep his job. I think he is already bought and paid for. His play calling is quite simply idiotic.

2. I think Garrett is safe for this year barring a complete collapse. You guys won't like that but Linehan is going to be the scapegoat, and also in fact the actual culprit. He's an idiot.

3. I'm seriously concerned about Tyron. He may be on the verge of being done.

4. I would try to trade Lee for something now. If I could get a second or a third he's gone. Get something out of him now while he has value.

5. The Amari Cooper trade was about several things, including improving the team. But possibly most importantly, if you believe he is the real deal, it tells you that the team is eliminating a bad receiving corps as an excuse, for everyone. It eliminates the shell game and should expose the real culprit.

6. I'm all for running the ball early and often, but the choice of runs by Linehan is maddening. Predictability and running into the strength of the defense is idiotic.

7. I'm not sure if Dak is the guy or not. But the offensive line has been putrid. I'm on the fence with Dak. OTOH I'm not sure who you would replace Dak with in the draft or free agency.

8. Those of you still clammoring for Dez are delusional. The Cooper trade tells you all you need to know. Dez is not in the teams plans, and rightly so.

9. The team actually plays better with LVE on the field than Lee.

10. Dallas is still in the hunt in the NFC East. If this defense can continue to improve we will have a shot at winning the division.

11. I don't think that the receivers have been the problem with this team, yet Cooper was upgrade. It won't matter if Cooper gets open if Dak can't see him.

12. We "seem" to have signaled that we are most likely going to invest in Cooper long term and he is going to get paid. Right now, as it seems to me Dak is in that group (15 to 20m per year) and Elliott are also in that group.

The salary cap says you can't pay everyone. So Tank and Irving may not be resigned. Does the Cooper trade tip the Cowboys' hand about letting Lawrence walk in a trade to recoup the first round pick we gave up for Cooper?

Does the Cooper trade indicate that Lee or Tank may get moved? No idea. But this was an unusual move for Dallas and for this to make sense the Cowboys may be looking to recoup that #1 pick.
I've also noticed you've been a mite scarce in posting as of late & also ,,I was,almost ,,,reaching the conscious level of concernment, till I took another * glug* and continued on from such idle meaningless thoughts:lmao:

*I'm gonna read yer' O.P. now Bro!
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No one will trade a second for Lee... he will be 33 years old before next season starts, and has the most defective hamstrings in the NFL. When he is on the field at 90% he is awesome... but that is far and few between.

As far as Lawrence goes... he still gets double teamed a lot. Which leads me to say, When he and Irving are in... Gregory should be able to do something. I have a torn labrum right now as well... So I don't know how he can be too effective. I can't use this arm right now for much of anything useful lol.

But honestly, we already know they aren't ditching Dak no matter if he connects with one pass to Amari. Because our 1st rounder is gone, unless we do get rid of DLAW... They have no intention of ditching Dak...

I don't believe in this theory of bringing in Amari, and if Dak can't hit him, they will go with someone else. They have the film with all the angles we are able to find and look at. If they don't already know he isn't the guy, they never will.

Dak is brandable, and that is all that Jerry cares about. Cooper Rush or Mike White, aren't getting commercials. There are no real free agents available. Herbert wouldn't fall to us if he did go in the draft. Not to mention he has basically already said he isn't. So we are just screwed for the foreseeable future. Dak isn't going to change, Jerry isn't going to change, Garrett isn't leaving, and we are just the same mediocre team we have been forever now. I have absolutely no hope left in this team getting anywhere. If they give Dak some big fat contract, I hope someone chokes on it.
 
It won't happen but I think Jim Harbaugh would be a good fit for the players we currently have. He had a similar type of team when he was at SF. A team with a good defense, OL, RB and a QB who can run.

His stupid expressions would be about as bad as JG's clapping lol. But... I will take anything right now. Even the first available high school coach.
 
I have been one of the teams strongest "believers" in terms of getting it done and have gone on record saying this will be our year. Having said that here are a few observations from my point of view:

1. I'm not sure, short of a miraculous turnaround, how Linehan can keep his job. I think he is already bought and paid for. His play calling is quite simply idiotic.

2. I think Garrett is safe for this year barring a complete collapse. You guys won't like that but Linehan is going to be the scapegoat, and also in fact the actual culprit. He's an idiot.

3. I'm seriously concerned about Tyron. He may be on the verge of being done.

4. I would try to trade Lee for something now. If I could get a second or a third he's gone. Get something out of him now while he has value.

5. The Amari Cooper trade was about several things, including improving the team. But possibly most importantly, if you believe he is the real deal, it tells you that the team is eliminating a bad receiving corps as an excuse, for everyone. It eliminates the shell game and should expose the real culprit.

6. I'm all for running the ball early and often, but the choice of runs by Linehan is maddening. Predictability and running into the strength of the defense is idiotic.

7. I'm not sure if Dak is the guy or not. But the offensive line has been putrid. I'm on the fence with Dak. OTOH I'm not sure who you would replace Dak with in the draft or free agency.

8. Those of you still clammoring for Dez are delusional. The Cooper trade tells you all you need to know. Dez is not in the teams plans, and rightly so.

9. The team actually plays better with LVE on the field than Lee.

10. Dallas is still in the hunt in the NFC East. If this defense can continue to improve we will have a shot at winning the division.

11. I don't think that the receivers have been the problem with this team, yet Cooper was upgrade. It won't matter if Cooper gets open if Dak can't see him.

12. We "seem" to have signaled that we are most likely going to invest in Cooper long term and he is going to get paid. Right now, as it seems to me Dak is in that group (15 to 20m per year) and Elliott are also in that group.

The salary cap says you can't pay everyone. So Tank and Irving may not be resigned. Does the Cooper trade tip the Cowboys' hand about letting Lawrence walk in a trade to recoup the first round pick we gave up for Cooper?

Does the Cooper trade indicate that Lee or Tank may get moved? No idea. But this was an unusual move for Dallas and for this to make sense the Cowboys may be looking to recoup that #1 pick.
Numbers 5,6,7,9& 11 I'll get out and help push that wagon up the hill & no way does this new#19 trade cast ill effect on the retention of the #90,,,that's just crazy thought going on there,@Verdict o_O
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Dak gets in the 27M minimum
Your right Garrett is the home boy coach
I invest in an OT if there [TSmith]. The oline has to be addressed
We make 9 wins that might be a wild card
appreciate your post
Dak getting $27 million per year would absolutely destroy any chance this franchise has of winning the SB for the foreseeable future. As a matter of fact, I seriously doubt the team would even make the playoffs let alone win a game in them with that type of financial commitment to Dak. His value now is that he is a $600k player and can afford to be a game manager. Even still the team is struggling, even with a good defense and running back. Give Dak $26 million more of the salary cap and we are dead.

And I say that as a Dak supporter, but part of me supporting him is understanding he is a 4th round pick making $600k a year. Start pulling in franchise QB money and my expectations of him are going to skyrocket and I don’t believe he has the ability to meet them.
 
Dak getting $27 million per year would absolutely destroy any chance this franchise has of winning the SB for the foreseeable future. As a matter of fact, I seriously doubt the team would even make the playoffs let alone win a game in them with that type of financial commitment to Dak. His value now is that he is a $600k player and can afford to be a game manager. Even still the team is struggling, even with a good defense and running back. Give Dak $26 million more of the salary cap and we are dead.

And I say that as a Dak supporter, but part of me supporting him is understanding he is a 4th round pick making $600k a year. Start pulling in franchise QB money and my expectations of him are going to skyrocket and I don’t believe he has the ability to meet them.
Yes Avian I hear ya. Im not in approval of that contract but watching the QB contracts spiral up based on last contract signed as the bench mark thats what I anticipate. I'll post Kirk numbers ;
Quarterback
  • 2018 Salary Cap Charge: $24,000,000
  • % of 2018 Team Cap: 12.61%
  • 2018 Cash Payout: $26,000,000
  • % of 2018 Team Cash Spending: 12.79%
  • 2018 Cash to Cap Ratio: 1.08
  • Total Contract Value: $84,000,000
  • Annual Contract Value: $28,000,000
  • Position Ranking: 0/41 at QB
  • Fully Guaranteed Money: $84,000,000
  • That's a 3 year deal.
  • Not at all saying Dak is Kirk but the negotiations will start with recent contracts.
 

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