Vick Doesn't Think It Is Big Deal

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td.yspwidearticlebody { font-size: 13.5px; }By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
July 24, 2007

How [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5448/;_ylt=Au1_Wz4SbL8UsudgZs7Q8WjsYNAF"]Michael Vick
reacts to the mandate from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to skip training camp could have an impact well beyond whether the embattled Atlanta Falcons quarterback plays during the upcoming season.

Until Monday, when Goodell ordered Vick to stay away from the team's training camp while the league reviews the federal dogfighting charges against him, at least one person close to Vick felt he didn't fully grasp the ramifications of his circumstances.

"I wouldn't say he's delusional about the problem, but I don't think he sees it as being as big a deal as everybody else," the associate said. "He thinks it's going to blow over eventually … He doesn't know how deep this goes."

That's why Vick had been resisting attempts from the Falcons to accept a leave of absence to deal with his case, according to multiple sources. Vick will be arraigned Thursday and is expected to spend months fighting the charges. Serious preparation for that began Monday when Vick hired high-profile attorney Billy Martin.

Martin could play a key role in the aftermath of Goodell's punishment. "Hopefully (Martin) can convince (Vick) that playing right now isn't a good idea," the associate said. "If Michael is with the team, it's going to be a circus every day."

Or as an NFL Players Association source said, the media will consistently raise the questions: "How is Vick playing? Is he distracted? Did he meet with his lawyers? What do his teammate think? Are people protesting?"

Moreover, what will potential jurors think?

The idea that Vick can play this season if the trial is going on simultaneously is difficult enough to comprehend. But if jurors get the idea that Vick doesn't take his predicament seriously, the perception could be even worse.

"It's almost like he'd be thumbing his nose at the whole process," the NFLPA source said. "This is serious stuff. He's fighting for his freedom."

The NFLPA hopes Vick decides to stay away on his own because it will prevent a potentially sticky situation.

Goodell has stopped short of suspending Vick so far under the guidelines of the personal conduct policy because Vick is a first-time offender under those guidelines. While Vick has had his share of embarrassments in his career (the water bottle incident at Miami International Airport this offseason, flipping off the fans last season and the "Ron Mexico"/herpes situation), he doesn't have any convictions or arrests on his record.

According to a source, that means Goodell will have trouble making a suspension stick. Worse, it could put the union in the position of having to fight the league on Vick's behalf, a potential public relations nightmare.
Beyond that, any battle over the personal conduct policy could eventually impact the suspensions already given to Adam "Pacman" Jones, Chris Henry and Tank Johnson.

Bottom line, the entire Vick issue has numerous far-reaching tentacles.

"Everything about this case has to be carefully considered because of all the ramifications," an NFL source said. "The league has to be careful because we don't know that what we do will be part of the federal investigation. Every step has to be analyzed."
Of course, Vick could solve the problem by stepping away.

Such a decision also would save Falcons owner Arthur Blank a public relations disaster. At this stage, he faces criticism from all sides. On Monday, approximately 50 people from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals protested in front of team headquarters in Flowery Branch, Ga. PETA also picketed the NFL offices on Friday.

Yet, Blank acknowledged in a statement last week that "we must consider all of our customers in making any decisions," conceding that at least some ticket holders would prefer to see Vick play.

The NFL had patiently tried to convince Vick and/or Blank to take action since the indictment was announced July 17.

"Exasperated? Yeah, that's a pretty good way to describe how (the league) feels right now," said another league source. "I would say that (Goodell) is doing everything he can not to lose his cool, but his patience is running out right now. I think everybody with any common sense agrees that Vick can't be around the league right now and this thing can't keep going on much longer."

Or as a second league source said: "The commissioner has been waiting for the Falcons and Vick to do something. He's not waiting much longer."

That's why Goodell issued a release Monday night. The terms of the banishment were indefinite and it's obvious the league will have to strengthen the action to make it stick. That was implicit in a letter Goodell wrote to Vick.

"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell wrote.
 

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I guess throwing himself at the mercy of the court is out of the question. LOL
 

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Judas Priest. How clueless can people be? I'm serious, you have to be going through life with blinders on not to know that every media outlet is on this. Every animal activist is on this. Your team and the NFL as a whole are upset and concerned.

I am as egotistical as anyone you will ever meet, but I'm not naive enough to think I can go through something like this and it will just go away, because deep down people know I'm a nice guy at heart.
 

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Hostile;1561739 said:
Judas Priest. How clueless can people be? I'm serious, you have to be going through life with blinders on not to know that every media outlet is on this. Every animal activist is on this. Your team and the NFL as a whole are upset and concerned.

I am as egotistical as anyone you will ever meet, but I'm not naive enough to think I can go through something like this and it will just go away, because deep down people know I'm a nice guy at heart.

I agree. It is not even the animal actives but a vast majority of people in this country who have a soft spot for mans best friend. This country spends a bundle on their pets and to see anyone take a dog and have them rip each other apart while idiots stand around betting on the outcome is pretty hard for many to swallow.
 

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If this is true, then Mr. Vick might want to consider a different agent, lawyer or speak with his mommy.......heck, even his brother Marcus (ok--maybe a stretch)
 

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Hostile;1561739 said:
Judas Priest. How clueless can people be? I'm serious, you have to be going through life with blinders on not to know that every media outlet is on this. Every animal activist is on this. Your team and the NFL as a whole are upset and concerned.

I am as egotistical as anyone you will ever meet, but I'm not naive enough to think I can go through something like this and it will just go away, because deep down people know I'm a nice guy at heart.

he probably thinks its no big deal because he has so much money and believes he can make it go away...the Falcons organization has helped him "make stuff go away" for years, so he sees no difference now

like Yeager said...he is just an idiot and a huge loser

David
 

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If Vick were more well spoken, none of this would be happening.
 

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with vick saying that makes me think 2 things. #1 either he really is that stupid or #2 he's gonna snitch on somebody to save himself
 

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I'm guessing we will classify Vick in the Ricky Williams classification. Someone who just doesn't get it until it stabs him in the pocket book/jail and then he will still not completely wake up.
 

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dbair1967;1561806 said:
he probably thinks its no big deal because he has so much money and believes he can make it go away...the Falcons organization has helped him "make stuff go away" for years, so he sees no difference now

like Yeager said...he is just an idiot and a huge loser

David

I think this is probably closest to the truth. This, IMO, is a microcasem of what Pro Athletes believe. They believe that the golden goose will always give it up for them. They beleive that they are above the laws of normal society. Certainly, there are some who understand and live in reality but most, I believe just don't believe it applies to them. Most believe that these kinds of things are not for them. I believe Vick thinks that he is too indispencible for the league or American sports to do without. He believes that this will eventually all go away.

Reality is a sobering thing. Like cold water and hard as steel. The sooner reality comes to Vick, the better IMO.
 

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mr. doggie abuse hasn't even publically commented, nevermind apologized about the accusations & charges.

of course he's living in fantasy-land. he has 130 million reasons for that, with prior pampering from probably middle-school.

cro-mag man had more available brain cells and used them better than ron mexico.
 

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Alexander;1561809 said:
If Vick were more well spoken, none of this would be happening.

This has nothing to do with Vick's race or his abilty to speak.

It's about his obvious lack of control over his life.

Even if you believe he had nothing to do with the actual dog fighting, his lack of knowledge about his investment is a red flag.

Any man that meanders through life that's in his positioin is going to get burned.

A man with fame and fortune has to be very sharp and cautious in his approach to everything or it's just a matter of time.

I personally think he's neck deep in the dog fighting ring, and knew everything that went on at his property.

I think he should go away and get his life in order, then perhaps he can get back to football.

By the way, I don't think Vick is a thug. He is a self-centered jerk that is throwing away a career that most of us fans have only been able to fantasize about.
 

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Alexander;1561809 said:
If Vick were more well spoken, none of this would be happening.

no, if Vick were a decent person and had half a brain, none of this would be happening

he's a piece of trash with extremely poor judgement...he does stupid crap and hangs around with thugs...trouble finds trouble

David
 

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chinch;1561845 said:
mr. doggie abuse hasn't even publically commented, nevermind apologized about the accusations & charges.

of course he's living in fantasy-land. he has 130 million reasons for that, with prior pampering from probably middle-school.

cro-mag man had more available brain cells and used them better than ron mexico.


That's a good point, he hasn't apologozed and isn't smart enough to see 99% of the country don't have his gansta values. This country is a forgiving one IF you are contrite and really apologize. Look at guys like Marv Albert. Marv liked to wear ladies undies and bite women in the back, but he came hat in hand in front of millions on TV and said he was sorry. People don't care now. Then take a guy like Pete Rose who wasn't smart enough(or was just flat in denial like Vick) to be honest, admit his transgression, and ask for forgievness. Instead Pete lied and didn't come clean. Now not everyone is forgiven for telling the truth, just ask Jose Canseco, but Canseco did it for profit, not forgivness. If Vick just comes clean maybe he'll be excepted down the road, but NO, he's gonna fight it and end up being a national pariah the rest of his life.
 
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