Video: Joseph Randle's 2014 carries (All-22)

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We're not discussing "missed tackles"? The hell are you on about? Whiffed tackles and a linebacker not even noticing who has the ball isn't helping you here. Alonso wasn't even in on the play, he was looking at the pile to right of him, Bell was to the left. Bell had a player whiff on a tackle and got behind his RT to get into the end zone. He pushed one guy on that play with the help of his RT.

Murray took on 3 defenders in the play I just showed you with no help from anyone whatsoever.

You're forgetting what you're arguing here, Fuzzy.And why are you bringing up Lynch? Every NFL fan knows how he is with "pushing piles" and "breaking tackles", there's a reason he has the label of Beast Mode and no one is claiming Murray is more physical than Lynch. This is you creating an argument then countering your own argument.

The great debater on this forum? I'm not impressed. Cop outs, exaggerations, now phantom arguments.

And again your reading skills or lack thereof are on display. My point is that when a guy breaks tackles it implies that a tackle ws missedc. Nothing more and nothing less. You should stop trying to guess what I mean. You suck at it.

You completely abandoned your Saints video, so we still have no short yardage power runs from Murray. Tell us more of how you won.

Now as for your characterization of events, even if I granted what you claim then it still means that he ran through one defender and drove another into the end zone. Compare and contrast to your inability to show short yardage power from Murray. Even if you win the point you still have no leg to stand on. Critical thinking is tough for you.

In all you are petty making claims as to your victory and belabor individual points in an effort to win anything. I'm bored with it and am going to go play some GTA5.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As for the second video, the ball breaks the plane as he makes contact. He didn't drag anyone into the endzone. He got there first. The play is dead when the ball breaks the plane.

 

[mattjames2010]

And again your reading skills or lack thereof are on display. My point is that when a guy breaks tackles it implies that a tackle ws missedc. Nothing more and nothing less. You should stop trying to guess what I mean. You suck at it.

You completely abandoned your Saints video, so we still have no short yardage power runs from Murray. Tell us more of how you won.

Now as for your characterization of events, even if I granted what you claim then it still means that he ran through one defender and drove another into the end zone. Compare and contrast to your inability to show short yardage power from Murray. Even if you win the point you still have no leg to stand on. Critical thinking is tough for you.

In all you are petty making claims as to your victory and belabor individual points in an effort to win anything. I'm bored with it and am going to go play some GTA5.

Why are you even discussing missed tackles? You're doing to me what you did with the last poster, you're now avoiding the argument. We are talking pushing a pile, I'm saying he had one guy whiff on a tackle, that's not pushing his way into the endzone. The other defender is being pushed by the RT. Where are the 4 defenders that he supposedly pushed through to get to the end zone? If you want to count the guy who whiffed on the tackle, go ahead, where are the other defenders? I'm waiting, give me the numbers of these defenders, are they invisible?

Don't change up the argument mid-way through, stop with the cop outs and exaggerations, and never again attempt to put words in my mouth or do phantom arguments with me; I'll call you out every single time.

 

[mattjames2010]

As for the second video, the ball breaks the plane as he makes contact. He didn't drag anyone into the endzone. He got there first. The play is dead when the ball breaks the plane.

He was at the one yard line when he got held up on that play, but I'm not going to sit here and argue with you because you've already proven you have poor eyes and have trouble observing; the point of me showing you that video was to demonstrate that what you see Murray doing in that video is about as much as Bell did in the video you posted. Neither of them are evidence of pushing a pile.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you then have the guy who completely whiffed on the tackle

Why are you even discussing missed tackles?

 

[mattjames2010]

Now you're going to take two parts of my post out of context? I gave you an observation and gave you a rundown of everything that happened on that Bell play, I told you a player whiffed on a tackle before Bell got behind his RT to get into the endzone. You for some reason got fixated on me saying a guy whiffed and acted like that was the argument the entire time? Who here said Bell doesn't break tackles? That wasn't the argument. I'm asking you where those 4 defenders are that Bell supposedly pushed back into the end zone? At least admit you exaggerated, at least admit that was not in any way an impressive highlight for Bell outside of him scoring.

Now, go play GTA V and contemplate your next move. Don't rush it, it hasn't resulted in anything good when you have.

 

[Zman5]

We are going around circles. You did not address what I was saying about begging the question. You don't understand what it means and are on repeat. Typical but still drivel.

You still have not demonstrated that Murray would break any run that Randle didn't. I have already said that I am not claiming that Randle is a power runner.

I've address that Murray is harder to tackle than Randle. I provided you the type of proof you were using with Bell. Now balls in your court to prove your claim about Randle.

You haven't done it in the past 5 posts or so. Mostly like because you can't. All you have done is post nonsense when all it takes is a one video of Randle trucking a 290lb guy charging full speed at him and then dragging six tacklers forward before going down.

 

[TheCount]

I want to come to your houses right now and do this:

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I want to come to your houses right now and do this:

DCU Krew does as they do.

 

[Apollo Creed]

For every 'dirty' yard Murray gained this team - he left just as many on the field because his lack of home run speed.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I wish the term "dirty yards" was never used...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I wish the term "dirty yards" was never used...

Blame Garrett.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Blame Garrett.

I do! LOL!

I mean there have been literally dozens of good backs that are or were 200-210lbs and did fine on short yardage.

 

[Broges74]

At this point let's see what the kid can and can't do before we make judgments.

Agreed. I think you go into preseason football before calling the other GMs around the league.

If no AP, let's not trade a premium price for another back until we know we have to.

 

[CyberB0b]