Video: Joseph Randle's 2014 carries (All-22)

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Lol. I look forward to your tape reviews once you get some camp footage when it gets underway.
Good.

It's cool that they've had the All-22 for the preseason the past couple of years.
 

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You desperately don't want to discuss what you actually said.

Bell goes 250 lbs

That's your proof?

So you believe Bell is more powerful than Murray because he weighs more yet you don't think Murray is more powerful than Randle even though Murray weighs more than Randle.

What kind of logic is that?

You are desperately trying to cover up your foolish conclusions you made on what I posted.
 

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That's your proof?

So you believe Bell is more powerful than Murray because he weighs more yet you don't think Murray is more powerful than Randle even though Murray weighs more than Randle.

What kind of logic is that?

You are desperately trying to cover up your foolish conclusions you made on what I posted.

Other than emotional characterizations you have nothing.



1:40 mark Bell carries a pile of 4 defenders into the end zone. Show me Murray doing that.
 

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It's just what happens when you have competing interests. They wanted to rotate and they wanted to go for the record. They tried to do both and we got what we got. Had Murray not broken down in December he might have had a chance.

But what I was showing is that early on, they didn't have competing interests, there was no record to go for, and they still didn't rotate them. So it wasn't all about that. Now, it might have been about that later in the season, but Dallas already had established that it wasn't going to give Randle the ball much.
 

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But what I was showing is that early on, they didn't have competing interests, there was no record to go for, and they still didn't rotate them. So it wasn't all about that. Now, it might have been about that later in the season, but Dallas already had established that it wasn't going to give Randle the ball much.

He had 8 straight 100 games. They rode the hot hand into the ground. Whatever the reason, it is not sustainable particularly with the RB in question turning 27.
 

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Other than emotional characterizations you have nothing.



1:40 mark Bell carries a pile of 4 defenders into the end zone. Show me Murray doing that.


And you are looking more foolish on each post.

Here is Murray trucking a D-Linemen who weighs 80 lbs more than him. Yeh this guy likes to "avoid" contact like you said. Not only he knocks down the DLinemen trying to tackle him, six guys can't push him back or bring him down easily afterwards.

Show me Randle doing that. See I can use this "Fuzzy Logic" too.

 

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And you are looking more foolish on each post.

Here is Murray trucking a D-Linemen who weighs 80 lbs more than him. Yeh this guy likes to "avoid" contact like you said. Not only he knocks down the DLinemen trying to tackle him, six guys can't push him back or bring him down easily afterwards.

Show me Randle doing that. See I can use this "Fuzzy Logic" too.



I asked you to post him running through and carrying piles. You show Murray spearing someone standing upright with his helmet in the open field. You don't understand leverage and such very well for all your assertion on my 'foolishness.'

I said that Murray liked to initiate contact or go down. He initiated contact there. Try again.
 

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I asked you to post him running through and carrying piles. You show Murray spearing someone with his helmet in the open field.

I said that Murray liked to initiate contact or go down. He initiated contact there. Try again.

Nice try to turn this into a Bell vs Murray argument.

Since you were the one who replied to my post saying Randal is as strong as Murray, you are the one who should post something on Randal doing the similar thing.

I'm waiting.
 

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Nice try to turn this into a Bell vs Murray argument.

Since you were the one who replied to my post saying Randal is as strong as Murray, you are the one who should post something on Randal doing the similar thing.

I'm waiting.

Why should I when there is no evidence of Murray pushing piles? I am trying to demonstrate what I see as a power back. I never said Randle could do that. I said Murray didn't. We know Lynch and Bell did now. All we have from you is presumption and a spearing in the open field video.
 

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Guys, I couldn't care less which RB can carry four defenders into an end zone or truck a 300 pound lineman to gain an extra two yards. I care about whether or not Dallas has a guy that will get 5 yards on 1st and 10 and get 2 yards on 3rd and 2 and punch it into the end zone on 1st and goal from the 1.
 

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Why should I when there is no evidence of Murray pushing piles. I am trying to demonstrate what I see as a power back. I never said Randle could do that. I said Murray didn't. We know Lynch and Bell did now. All we have from you is presumption.

What does pushing piles have to do with what I posted initially about Randle? The post you replied to. I said Randle got tackled on some plays that Murray probably wouldn't have and you made that into "so you think Murray is some magical RB who can't be tackled".

You made that comment so prove to me that Randle can truck a guy who weighs 290LBS running full speed toward him and not get tackled.


I showed you a video of Murray not getting tackled easily. Show me Randle doing the same thing.
 

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What does pushing piles have to do with what I posted initially about Randle? The post you replied to. I said Randle got tackled on some plays that Murray probably wouldn't have and you made that into "so you think Murray is some magical RB who can't be tackled".

You made that comment so prove to me that Randle can truck a guy who weighs 290LBS running full speed toward him and not get tackled.


I showed you a video of Murray not getting tackled easily. Show me Randle doing the same thing.

I figured you had given up on that because you surrender my point about unprovable conjecture and wishful thinking. You certainly are presumptive to ignore my argument and double down instead.

If you want to see Randle being slippery go look at the OP. There were at least 5 others that said they saw the same thing. Perhaps less presumption and more introspection is in order?

That DL was coming in high. I haven't played football since 7th grade but even I know what is not how it's done. All you have done is shown how to exploit poor technique.
 

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Guys, I couldn't care less which RB can carry four defenders into an end zone or truck a 300 pound lineman to gain an extra two yards. I care about whether or not Dallas has a guy that will get 5 yards on 1st and 10 and get 2 yards on 3rd and 2 and punch it into the end zone on 1st and goal from the 1.

I couldn't careless either. I posted several positives about Randle and one negative saying he got tackled easoly on some plays that Murray probably wouldn't have gotten easily tackled on.

Somehow Fuzzy thinks that means I posted Murray is a "Magical RB that can't be tackled".

I don't know where the heck that came from but I don't appreciate people making up ridiculous claims on what I actually posted.
 

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I couldn't careless either. I posted several positives about Randle and one negative saying he got tackled easoly on some plays that Murray probably wouldn't have gotten easily tackled on.

Somehow Fuzzy thinks that means I posted Murray is a "Magical RB that can't be tackled".

I don't know where the heck that came from but I don't appreciate people making up ridiculous claims on what I actually posted.

Again, what plays? You are using a generalization and being presumptive. Sorry that I cannot tell where your wishful thinking ends.

Be specific and I will say something else the next time you parrot this take.
 

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I figured you had given up on that because you surrender my point about unprovable conjecture and wishful thinking. You certainly are presumptive to ignore my argument and double down instead.

If you want to see Randle being slippery go look at the OP. There were at least 5 others that said they saw the same thing. Perhaps less presumption and more introspection is in order?

That DL was coming in high. I haven't played football since 7th grade but even I know what is not how it's done. All you have done is shown how to exploit poor technique.

Show me where Randle is showing the same power to knock a guy who weighs 290 LBS charging full speed at him then holding up six guys who are trying to push him back. I'm waiting.
 

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Again, what plays? You are using a generalization and being presumptive. Be specific and I will say something else the next time you parrot this take.

And all you are doing is making ridiculous claims on what I actually said. Your proof of Bell being more powerful than Murray is no more or less factual than what I already posted about Murray and Randle. Yet in your simple mind, you believe otherwise.
 

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Show me where Randle is showing the same power to knock a guy who weighs 290 LBS charging full speed at him then holding up six guys who are trying to push him back. I'm waiting.

:laugh:Holding up to you means stood up to me and taken down.

Randle doesn't spear. That move is now illegal. Murray is one of the few backs that does that thus them calling the rule the Demarco Murray rule. Try and keep up.
 

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And all you are doing is making ridiculous claims on what I actually said. Your proof of Bell being more powerful than Murray is no more or less factual than what I already posted about Murray and Randle. Yet in your simple mind, you believe otherwise.

Of course a logical extension of unprovable conjecture is ridiculous. Garbage in, garbage out as they say. I have shown the Bell can carry piles in short yardage situations. I'm waiting for you to show something other than him spearing someone in the openfield and getting stood up by defenders.
 
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