Video: Joseph Randle's 2014 carries (All-22)

[Zman5]

Holding up to you means stood up to me and taken down.

Randle doesn't spear. That move is now illegal. Murray is one of the few backs that does that thus them calling the rule the Demarco Murray rule. Try and keep up.

As usual, keep avoiding what I asked for since you can't provide any "proof".

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As usual, keep avoiding what I asked for since you can't provide any "proof".

I already told you that Randle doesn't do that either. As an aside, begging the question is not an argument no matter how many times you beg it.

 

[Zman5]

Of course a logical extension of unprovable conjecture is ridiculous. Garbage in, garbage out as they say. I have shown the Bell can carry piles in short yardage situations. I'm waiting for you to show something other than him spearing someone in the openfield and getting stood up by defenders.

You think the video of Bell proves he is more powerful than Murray because there isn't a exact same type of video of Murray yet Murray's video doesn't prove he is more powerful than Randle even though there isn't a exact same type of video of Randle.

Another sample of your ridiculous conclusions.

 

[Zman5]

I already told you that Randle doesn't do that either. As an aside, begging the question is not an argument no matter how many times you beg it.

Keep avoiding what I asked for. That's all you can do is because you can't back up your claim.

 

[mattjames2010]

Of course a logical extension of unprovable conjecture is ridiculous. Garbage in, garbage out as they say. I have shown the Bell can carry piles in short yardage situations. I'm waiting for you to show something other than him spearing someone in the openfield and getting stood up by defenders.

Are you really asking for people to provide you with an RB pushing the pile? Unless someone has every single game recorded or Murray ripped off a long run after pushing the pile, there isn't going to be videos online showing this. But this is another cop out for you, and you really rely on this too much. If you have never seen Murray push a pile, you have obviously never watched a Cowboys game or you are simply pretending to not remember. But here you go, start the video at 1:33

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000402713/Week-4-Saints-vs-Cowboys-highlights

 

[erod]

Do you really want to get into the debate again about the averages of a back getting over 20+/40+ runs?

No, I already won this debate, but thanks.

 

[mattjames2010]

No, I already won this debate, but thanks.

Revisionist history.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Keep avoiding what I asked for. That's all you can do is because you can't back up your claim.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html

You are not the arbiter of truth and your questions just mean you don't have the answer and nothing more. Further, I answered your questions if not in the manner you wanted. That is not avoiding; that is me not playing along with your narrative. Keep begging though its kinda funny.

Unprovable conjecture on your part is what it is Mr. "Murray would have broke that."

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you really asking for people to provide you with an RB pushing the pile? Unless someone has every single game recorded or Murray ripped off a long run after pushing the pile, there isn't going to be videos online showing this. But this is another cop out for you, and you really rely on this too much. If you have never seen Murray push a pile, you have obviously never watched a Cowboys game or you are simply pretending to not remember. But here you go, start the video at 1:33

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000402713/Week-4-Saints-vs-Cowboys-highlights

He spins away from contact and finds the open field.

Still waiting for him maintaining power through contact like I showed Bell doing. You don't know wth you are looking at statboy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You think the video of Bell proves he is more powerful than Murray because there isn't a exact same type of video of Murray yet Murray's video doesn't prove he is more powerful than Randle even though there isn't a exact same type of video of Randle.

Another sample of your ridiculous conclusions.

No that is just an example of poor reading and critical thinking skills on your part.

Not exact. Try again. Same type of power run yes. We just saw Murrays highlights and not one was to be found. My point is that Murray is not as powerful as you claim not that Randle is powerful. Try and keep up.

 

[mattjames2010]

He spins away from contact and finds the open field.

Still waiting for him maintaining power through contact like I showed Bell doing. You don't know wth you are looking at statboy.

HA! That's what it is now? "Spinning through a contact", opposed to the Bell video that you showed where an offensive lineman is obviously helping to pave the way into the endzone? I don't know if you're cross eyed or what, but he pushed 4 defenders?

Fuzzy, fuzzy, fuzzy. I'm disappointed in you.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

HA! That's what it is now? "Spinning through a contact", opposed to the Bell video that you showed where an offensive lineman is obviously helping to pave the way into the endzone? I don't know if you're cross eyed or what, but he pushed 4 defenders?

Fuzzy, fuzzy, fuzzy. I'm disappointed in you.

You suck at reading. Spin away from contact.

Yes OL are typically involved on inside short yardage power runs. Your powers of observation are stunning. He ran straight through two guys before he drives the OL and defenders into the endzone.

You don't disappoint me, you are providing about what I expect in reading and critical thinking skills, statboy. Disappointment assumes I expected more. Never did.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Revisionist history.

Hypocrite much? You've used the "I've WON," "NEXT!," and such with me at least a half dozen times in 24 hours.

 

[mattjames2010]

You suck at reading. Spin away from contact.

Yes OL are typically involved on inside short yardage power runs. Your powers of observation are stunning. He ran straight through two guys before he drives the OL and defenders into the endzone.

You don't disappoint me, you are providing about what I expect in reading and critical thinking skills, statboy. Disappointment assumes I expected more. Never did.

Haha, I love this, Bell was running behind the RT while the lineman to the left of him had their guys. he didn't "run through two guys, The RT pushed his man You then have the guy who completely whiffed on the tackle and the Alonso (Who was a rookie at the time) for some reason thinking they are rushing to the left and didn't even see Bell. The pile was to the left of Bell, Bell took the hole where the RT provided the push.

If you're going to provide "evidence", actually observe the evidence before posting it. But you are Fuzzy, king of exaggerations and cop outs. Pushing through 4 guys? Get real, man. I'm not doubting Bell has power and has at one point pushed a pile, like Murray, Bell is a great RB. But don't post ********, I'll call you out on it every single time.

 

[mattjames2010]

Hypocrite much? You've used the "I've WON," "NEXT!," and such with me at least a half dozen times in 24 hours.

I'd be hypocritical if I actually lost a debate with you. Instead, I've had to put up with your cop outs and exaggerations for pages now. Since you've admitted to trolling, I'm hoping that's what this is.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Haha, I love this, Bell was running behind the RT while the lineman to the left of him had their guys. he didn't "run through two guys, The RT pushed his man You then have the guy who completely whiffed on the tackle and the Alonso (Who was a rookie at the time) for some reason thinking they are rushing to the left and didn't even see Bell.

If you're going to provide "evidence", actually observe the evidence before posting it. But you are Fuzzy, king of exaggerations and cop outs. Pushing through 4 guys? Get real, man. I'm not doubting Bell has power and has at one point pushed a pile, like Murray, Bell is a great RB. But don't post bull****, I'll call you out on it every single time.

So you agree that the two LBers missed the tackle as he ran through them and then he pushed the RT and defenders into the end zone. Breaking tackles implies a guy whiffed, chachi. Your critical thinking skills are horrific.

That was only the first one I found too. I quit looking because it trumps your lack of short yardage runs from Murray. I don't need anything more. Nevermind that Lynch breaks tackles at almost twice the rate of Murray as you demonstrated for us, statboy.

You completely abandoned your Saints highlight which means you lose. Murray spun away from contact on the second level there.

 

[Zman5]

No that is just an example of poor reading and critical thinking skills on your part.

Not exact. Try again. Same type of power run yes. We just saw Murrays highlights and not one was to be found. My point is that Murray is not as powerful as you claim not that Randle is powerful. Try and keep up.

Nice try avoiding the question. Instead showing proof you resort to non sense. Keep living in your little fantasy world.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'd be hypocritical if I actually lost a debate with you. Instead, I've had to put up with your cop outs and exaggerations for pages now. Since you've admitted to trolling, I'm hoping that's what this is.

You keep telling yourself that.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nice try avoiding the question. Instead showing proof you resort to non sense. Keep living in your little fantasy world.

We are going around circles. You did not address what I was saying about begging the question. You don't understand what it means and are on repeat. Typical but still drivel.

You still have not demonstrated that Murray would break any run that Randle didn't. I have already said that I am not claiming that Randle is a power runner.

 

[mattjames2010]

So you agree that the two LBers missed the tackle as he ran through them and then he pushed the RT and defenders into the end zone. Breaking tackles implies a guy whiffed, chachi. Your critical thinking skills are horrific.

That was only the first one I found too. I quit looking because it trumps your lack of short yardage runs from Murray. I don't need anything more. Nevermind that Lynch breaks tackles at almost twice the rate of Murray as you demonstrated for us, statboy.

You completely abandoned your Saints highlight which means you lose. Murray spun away from contact on the second level there.

We're not discussing "missed tackles"? The hell are you on about? Whiffed tackles and a linebacker not even noticing who has the ball isn't helping you here. Alonso wasn't even in on the play, he was looking at the pile to right of him, Bell was to the left. Bell had a player whiff on a tackle and got behind his RT to get into the end zone. He pushed one guy on that play with the help of his RT.

Murray took on 3 defenders in the play I just showed you with no help from anyone whatsoever.

You're forgetting what you're arguing here, Fuzzy.And why are you bringing up Lynch? Every NFL fan knows how he is with "pushing piles" and "breaking tackles", there's a reason he has the label of Beast Mode and no one is claiming Murray is more physical than Lynch. This is you creating an argument then countering your own argument.

The great debater on this forum? I'm not impressed. Cop outs, exaggerations, now phantom arguments. Do better.



What Murray does at 1:16 in that video is equivalent to what Bell did in the video you showed.