Video: Who gets the blame: Romo or Austin?

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Accountability is between the players and coaches.

The BLAME game is something that the media is focussed on.

I believe, for what it is worth, that Austin had the option (as Romo stated) and that what Austin saw, was a wide open route to the endzone- he had clearly beaten the best CB in the league for the score. But what Romo saw, in the pocket, and with the clock ticking down in his mind, and having been harassed (and sacked repeatedly) all day long back there, was an easy 1st and goal completion. He took what he saw, not what Austin saw.

Was either one "wrong"? No.

What they were, was not on the same page. That comes with playing together and experience between them

There is absolutely NO REASON for the media to ask the dumb question of Austin after they had gotten a completely honest answer from Romo. The play was an OPTION for the WR. The QB has to read the exact same and ANTICIPATE the reciever's choice.

Austin had beaten Bailey. THAT is what the press should have focussed on in questioning Austin. For a young reciever- beating the best DB in the league is no small feat.

Good job Austin- good job Romo in finding him... a bad break in the two teammeates not seeing the exact same thing, and coming to the exact same conclusions, as far as where the ball should be placed for a score, or a first and goal.

Next question.
 

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Hostile;3003995 said:
There is no such thing as a correct option route running into double coverage when the other option runs away from it. Why is that so hard to admit?

That wasn't an option route.

And Miles admitted yesterday that he doesn't run a lot of option routes.
 

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JoeCorrado;3003996 said:
Accountability is between the players and coaches.

The BLAME game is something that the media is focussed on.

I believe, for what it is worth, that Austin had the option (as Romo stated) and that what Austin saw, was a wide open route to the endzone- he had clearly beaten the best CB in the league for the score. But what Romo saw, in the pocket, and with the clock ticking down in his mind, and having been harassed (and sacked repeatedly) all day long back there, was an easy 1st and goal completion. He took what he saw, not what Austin saw.

Was either one "wrong"? No.

What they were, was not on the same page. That comes with playing together and experience between them

There is absolutely NO REASON for the media to ask the dumb question of Austin after they had gotten a completely honest answer from Romo. The play was an OPTION for the WR. The QB has to read the exact same and ANTICIPATE the reciever's choice.

Austin had beaten Bailey. THAT is what the press should have focussed on in questioning Austin. For a young reciever- beating the best DB in the league is no small feat.

Good job Austin- good job Romo in finding him... a bad break in the two teammeates not seeing the exact same thing, and coming to the exact same conclusions, as far as where the ball should be placed for a score, or a first and goal.

Next question.

Ummm...

I think you are in the wrong thread. And I am not sure you read anything in this thread.
 

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dcfanatic;3004035 said:
That wasn't an option route.

And Miles admitted yesterday that he doesn't run a lot of option routes.
Believe whatever you want, but you are wrong.
 

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dcfanatic;3003943 said:
The route wasn't an option route.

Austin ran the correct route.

Watch the play again.

Romo was high and wide with the pass as he was with most of his passes on that day.

If he throws it on point the pass hits Miles coming out of his break.

Romo's explanation says a lot. He says that Austin is supposed to 'come back down he stem and break out IF NECESSARY'. Austin was coming back down the stem.

It only seems like it was a throw to the out route because the pass was so far off the mark.

You don't throw that out route with Champ over there for fear of him jumping the route and taking if for six if he's sitting on it. You throw the 'comeback' because there would be less of an angle for a defender to break on it.

And if you watch it again. If Austin was supposed to have an option to break it outside why would he 'turn in' on the route? He wouldn't. He would 'turn out' and then adjust.

Plays over. To the sideline they go and Romo won't take the blame for he piss poor throw. He's trying to spin it into some deal where he thought Austin was going to head to the sideline because of the inside help. Austin is pissed because it's not how the play was designed and he would have no way of knowing that Romo was thinking that was an option. Ray Sherman is over there to talk and calm things down. That's his job on this team. Garrett is just a facts and figures guy and it already onto the ideas of what to do on the next set of downs.

Post game. Romo instead of just saying the pass was one of his many errant throws instead tries to be diplomatic in saying it was just a miscommunication.

That didn't sit well with Miles. Hence the reason he avoided the media all week because he didn't want to talk about the issue. He didn't want to take blame for just doing his job and running the proper route. He didn't want to say Romo was being an *** for not just taking the hit for a poor throw. He knew Romo was already deep enough in it with the two fourth down throws. Plus he was annoyed that he didn't get a look on the last series of downs. He's frustrated.

Then we come to yesterday. He's told to make himself available to the media or face a fine from the league. He side steps the question. He wants to move on and hope he can be in the good graces of his QB come Sunday when he knows he will be starting opposite Crayton.

The QB is spoiled because everyone goes out of their way to coddle him. The WR wants some passes thrown his way this Sunday.

The end.

Sorry, I dont buy it.

After rewatching the play several times in slow motion and reading the comments made by the players, I am 90% sure this was on Austin.

Austin messed up and doesnt have the balls to just admit it.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3003171 said:
Either way, who freaking cares? It was an option route and they didn't see it the same way. End of story. Nothing good comes out of singling out a player here.

Media smells chum in the water and it's Romo they are after. They hyped Romo into fame and can't wait to tear him down. Galloway's take is the Cowboys took Austin out of the picture to protect Romo from the truth.

It was one play in another gutless loss. Great leadership starts from the top, and Dallas' leadership is designed with a basic dysfunction.

The business man owner has mandated that he is also the football GM who needs to micromanage and assume authority over things he's not qualified to be in charge of, undermining his coaching staff and performing a great dis-service to his players and fans as a result.

Dallas can't win with this situation at the top. Bill Parcells breathed a little life into this CPR dummy of a franchise painted to look like the Cowboys, but even he couldn't save it from Jerry Jones's insane ego.
 

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dcfanatic;3004126 said:
No. I'm not.

And the 'other's' in the stuff from Charean Williams would know.
You and Charean Williams can design pass patterns to turn into double coverage all you want. That doesn't make any sense. Watch the video you can see Dawkins reacting to cover. Romo made a correct read. He had single coverage with the CB behind the WR. If Austin had turned right it is either a catch or Defensive Pass Interference.

You nor she can explain away why Romo was instructing the kid on the sidelines and why his position coach was too.
 

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Beast_from_East;3004061 said:
Sorry, I dont buy it.

After rewatching the play several times in slow motion and reading the comments made by the players, I am 90% sure this was on Austin.

Austin messed up and doesnt have the balls to just admit it.

Why wouldn't Ausit admit it? Name one time in the past where he hasn't been a stand up guy. The kid was blatantly honest about his decision to go talk to the Jets. So don't tell me he's afraid of the fans getting down on him for making a mistake.

And to everyone who still thinks it was a simple out route gone wrong. Romo admits that it's not an out route in his comments. You don't come back down the stem on an out route.

Why would you not believe Romo's pass was high and wide right when he had two similar passes to Crayton and Roy do the same thing in that game on consecutive plays?

Why would Austin want to talk about it on the sideline if it was just him running the wrong route? There wouldn't be much to talk about unless Romois trying to say he should have broken it to the sideline. That's where Austin would start barking. 'Now I am supposed to be a mind reader?'.

I laid out exactly what happened. And I am 100% positive that's exactly what happened.

Now I just hope Austin and Romo light it up tomorrow.
 

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Hostile;3004134 said:
You and Charean Williams can design pass patterns to turn into double coverage all you want. That doesn't make any sense. Watch the video you can see Dawkins reacting to cover. Romo made a correct read. He had single coverage with the CB behind the WR. If Austin had turned right it is either a catch or Defensive Pass Interference.

You nor she can explain away why Romo was instructing the kid on the sidelines and why his position coach was too.

You don't know that Romo and Sherman were 'instructing' Austin on the sideline. You are assuming that.

Bad move.

And me and Charean Williams aren't designing anything.

Jason Garrett is.
 

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dcfanatic;3004147 said:
You don't know that Romo and Sherman were 'instructing' Austin on the sideline. You are assuming that.

Bad move.

And me and Charean Williams aren't designing anything.

Jason Garrett is.
Right, and he would NOT design a play to run into double coverage in the red zone.

You can call the sidelines discussion circumstantial evidence all you wish, it is still the compelling factor of the whole discussion.
 

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Romo's fault. No doubt about it. If it was as Romo said and it was an 'either/or' type of play....it's still Romo's fault because he would have to know what Austin was going to do before he threw the ball. I believe the either/or has to be decided at the LOS before the ball is snapped...once the defense is set.

Romo lied.
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Hostile;3004150 said:
Right, and he would NOT design a play to run into double coverage in the red zone.

You can call the sidelines discussion circumstantial evidence all you wish, it is still the compelling factor of the whole discussion.

He was telling Miles to forget about the play and move on.

What double coverage? Dawkins is playing middle. He watching both Witten and Austin. If it was double coverage Champ would have bee underneath and let Miles go by him.

Witten in the running the option route. If the LB stays under than go past him for the post. If he backs up then break underneath for a hitch.

Dawkins is closer to Witten then to Austin when the ball is picked.

Austin was supposed break and sit, then come back down the stem and if Romo hadn't released the ball yet then WR is always taught to run towards the sideline while coming back to the QB. We have seen it a million times.
 

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Hostile;3004160 said:
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

They were taking away Witten all game.

But becasue it doesn't fit your theory now they are taking away Austin with double coverage.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 

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Bluefin;3002991 said:
Tony Romo admitted it was a option route when answering the question.

I don't really care which player was at fault, third and eleven in the Red Zone isn't the best time to have a young receiver "thinking" about what to do while Champ Bailey is covering him.

Keep things simple.

A draw or a screen would've been fine when you have the lead and a chip shot field goal in your pocket.

We let Denver back in the game by going for a first down (3rd and 14) deep in our own territory and turned it over again deep in their end doing the same thing (3rd and 11).

Having a receiver run a route past the sticks isn't the only way to convert a long first down, but it is the riskiest and we really don't need to early in games.

The offense is predicated on getting the ball down the filed in big chunks.

As Bill Parcells would say, there is a flip side to the pancake and it isn't pretty.

Quick checkdowns and screens aren't sexy, but they emphasize ball protection and getting the ball out of the quarterback's hands quickly.

Sometimes playing the odds and avoiding potential risky plays is the way to go.


+10000

Well said !

JG and Tony should realize that, Go for Low risk high reward play at those 3rd and longs, when we had comfortable lead and those turnovers (both the fumble and int hurt us ) .
 

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dcfanatic;3004164 said:
They were taking away Witten all game.

But becasue it doesn't fit your theory now they are taking away Austin with double coverage.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Speak English. Now you want to talk about Witten?

Look, you are dead wrong, period. But by all means be deluded. Austin was Romo's 3rd read (minimum). What were his first 2?
 

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I actually like the play. Just gotta connect next time.

I dont think that admitting TO THE MEDIA that it was his fault or whatever is a big deal.

It was play that Miles could have completed. Just gotta get it right.
 

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Hostile;3004174 said:
Speak English. Now you want to talk about Witten?

Look, you are dead wrong, period. But by all means be deluded. Austin was Romo's 3rd read (minimum). What were his first 2?

I'm not wrong. I know exactly how it went down.

And I told you how already.

Believe it or don't belive it. I could care less.

You don't know Romo's reads on the play so don't pretend you do.

It's ok to be wrong big guy.

We still love you.
 

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dcfanatic;3004446 said:
I'm not wrong. I know exactly how it went down.

And I told you how already.

Believe it or don't belive it. I could care less.

You don't know Romo's reads on the play so don't pretend you do.

It's ok to be wrong big guy.

We still love you.
I do know the reads.
 
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