Video: Who gets the blame: Romo or Austin?

[LowTech]

At this point, it doesn't matter either way. Lets hope they get it together and play well against the chiefs.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

It doesn't matter now... They blew the game.

 

[Beast_from_East]

their sideline confab came a little too late

Looks like Romo is pointing out to Austin that he F'uped the route and Austin isnt buying it. The wide receiver coach apparently is trying to intervine and calme the situation down, but Miles gets pissed and just starts to walk away.

Garrett looks like he has no idea what the hell is going on, how freaking pathetic does he look here.

You would think with Romo, Austin, and the recievers coach all talking about a red zone pick that just happened, Red would kinda be a little interested in what happened.

No wonder Romo has no confidence, he just threw a red zone pick and his offensive coordinator is just staring at a photo looking confused as hell.

 

[Hoofbite]

This is weird.

Kind of has me befuddled and I am searching for answers within my mind.

But it seems Miles Austin spoke to the media after the Bucs game about the plays in the game which was already over?

I was under the impression that once the game was over he didn't talk about that stuff because it was, well...over.

At 1:38 of this video he even goes into detail about the name of the route he ran in which he caught a pass and broke some tackles for a TD?

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Can someone tell me what the heck is going on here.

In the video today he specifically says he doesn't talk about stuff that is over with and then in this video from after the Bucs game he's blabbing away about what route is was and how the other guys looked great and all sorts of stuff.

****. Wait a second.

I think I got it.

Did you ever see that movie 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'...

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Dude ???

Ya think? Could it be?

I want my old Miles Austin back!!!

What answer are you wanting to hear on the topic? You're clearly in search of some "holy grail" of an answer. What is it?

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Who gets the blame: Romo or Austin?

By dcfanatic, October 9, 2009 6:50 pm


This is a pretty interesting discussion.

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Ok. So if Austin ran the wrong route why didn't he just say right there that he ran the wrong route? (by the way, this the first time Austin addressed the media this week).

And if Romo threw a bad pass then why didn't he just say that in the post game interview?

Or is it this a question or this route being an 'option' route and the WR and QB not being on the same page?

Very interesting.

I think he gave the right answer. He's not going to win no matter how he answers the question. Either he makes himself look like an idiot for running the wrong route OR he turns into Owens throwing the QB under the bus. Neither is going to help the team win. Winning will & that's what his mind if focused on this week & what it SHOULD be on EVERY WEEK.

 

[Hostile]

I wish I had an exact diagram of where everyone was lined up and what Defense Denver was in. I don't, so I will simply try and rationalize the thinking like this. Austin is lined up wide right with Bailey on him. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

Romo threw it to the sideline while Austin curled inside. Hopefully we can agree on that.

Inside the 20, or the red zone the Defense is less spread out than say if the Cowboys were on the 50 yard line. Hopefully we can all agree on that. It's one of the things that makes football so great. The closer you get to glory the more people you have to beat.

Okay, you're the QB and you're trying to protect the ball and score. Which pass is more likely to draw double coverage? The sideline out or the inside curl?

I love both passes, but there is little doubt in my mind that Austin ran the wrong route. You can clearly see Brian Dawkins come over to double the inside route, but he could not get to the outside route without a rocket pack strapped to his back. Why would Tony talk to him at all if he didn't? Seriously, how often do you see him seek out a WR when the INT is his fault? Why would Ray Sherman come talk to him too?

Common Sense 101.

 

[newlander]

2 undrafted FA's screwing up a simple route at the goal line: what a shock..............

 

[tyke1doe]

I have no problem with how they handled it. They both screwed up and there is no point rehashing it.

As far as accountability, as long as they get it worked out between themselves who cares if they are "accountable" to the media and fans?

As a member of the media, I don't like your answer, but I agree.

Keep that stuff in house. There's no reason to throw a teammate under the bus and create internal strife in the lockerroom.

The media like juicy gossip. Don't feed it more by answering the questions. Just avoid the topic, and let the speculation fly. Austin may have to do interviews, but he isn't obligate to answer the question the way the reporter likes.

Again, I'm separating what I would want professionally from what I would do personally.

Professionally, I want him to answer my question.
Personally, I'd say ... "That's between me and my quarterback. He has confidence in me and I have confidence in him, and we're going to show that in future games, starting with Kansas City. Next question."

 

[tyke1doe]

I wish I had an exact diagram of where everyone was lined up and what Defense Denver was in. I don't, so I will simply try and rationalize the thinking like this. Austin is lined up wide right with Bailey on him. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

Romo threw it to the sideline while Austin curled inside. Hopefully we can agree on that.

Inside the 20, or the red zone the Defense is less spread out than say if the Cowboys were on the 50 yard line. Hopefully we can all agree on that. It's one of the things that makes football so great. The closer you get to glory the more people you have to beat.

Okay, you're the QB and you're trying to protect the ball and score. Which pass is more likely to draw double coverage? The sideline out or the inside curl?

I love both passes, but there is little doubt in my mind that Austin ran the wrong route. You can clearly see Brian Dawkins come over to double the inside route, but he could not get to the outside route without a rocket pack strapped to his back. Why would Tony talk to him at all if he didn't? Seriously, how often do you see him seek out a WR when the INT is his fault? Why would Ray Sherman come talk to him too?

Common Sense 101.

It's pretty clear that the sideline pass was the best pass to throw in that situation, especially when you're trying to minimize a turnover. Bailey just made a sensational interception. But if Austin was where he was suppose to be, the worst it would have been was an incomplete pass.

Be that as it may, it happened. Nothing can be done about it. Time to move on .

 

[Bluefin]

I love both passes, but there is little doubt in my mind that Austin ran the wrong route.

Only the players know.

Miles Austin and Tony Romo didn't seem to agree on what should have been run on the sideline following the play.

Austin was open the way he ran the route if the pass had been there, but Romo threw it outside.

Some "sources" claim it was Romo at fault while others have pegged Austin for the miscue.

The following quote is from Charean Williams' latest piece over at the Star-Telegram.

Austin has been criticized for running the wrong route on Tony Romo’s third-quarter interception at the Denver 3-yard line. But Williams defended Austin on Wednesday, saying Austin ran the right route. Others privately have backed Austin this week.

 

[Hostile]

Only the players know.

Miles Austin and Tony Romo didn't seem to agree on what should have been run on the sideline following the play.

Austin was open the way he ran the route if the pass had been there, but Romo threw it outside.

Some "sources" claim it was Romo at fault while others have pegged Austin for the miscue.

The following quote is from Charean Williams' latest piece over at the Star-Telegram.

So the starting QB is explaining the correct route to the backup WR and the WR Coach comes over and talks to the WR, not the QB, and the OC is sitting close enough to hear if the QB is wrong, but the QB still may have been at fault?

"Aw, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" --Robert Browning

 

[Ren]

Doubt this was about Autin trying to avoid any kind of accountability


I think it would be easier to admit to your own mistake then if you did everything right and the QB didn't.
If you know the media is going to grill you on that one and it was your own fault it would probably be easier to just say "yeah, i screwed up on that one, i'll do better next time" and get it over with rather then worrying about slipping up and creating a media ****storm over another Cowboys WR calling out his QB, if it was not on you.

Maybe he was just being "Romo friendly" by avoiding the media

 

[Bluefin]

So the starting QB is explaining the correct route to the backup WR and the WR Coach comes over and talks to the WR, not the QB, and the OC is sitting close enough to hear if the QB is wrong, but the QB still may have been at fault?

Champ Bailey was on the outside of Miles Austin, so I can see why he ran the route as he did.

Obviously Tony Romo expected him to turn outside regardless.

Ray Sherman's job is to coach wide receivers, so why wouldn't he be talking to Austin instead of Romo? It isn't his job to coach the quarterback, that falls on Wade Wilson and Jason Garrett.

I don't know what route Romo was expecting there.

It's not like Austin had enough room to run an out pattern.

The inside curl seemed appropriate with Bailey playing to his outside.

 

[Hostile]

Champ Bailey was on the outside of Miles Austin, so I can see why he ran the route as he did.

Obviously Tony Romo expected him to turn outside regardless.

Ray Sherman's job is to coach wide receivers, so why wouldn't he be talking to Austin instead of Romo? It isn't his job to coach the quarterback, that falls on Wade Wilson and Jason Garrett.

I don't know what route Romo was expecting there.

It's not like Austin had enough room to run an out pattern.

The inside curl seemed appropriate with Bailey playing to his outside.

It is his job to defend his WRs. You said it best though, he was coaching his WR. Why would he need to coach him if Austin ran the right route?

The inside curl was going to bring Bailey with him inside and Brian Dawkins was already coming. Romo would have been throwing into double coverage instead of single coverage with the CB behind the WR.

Not buying it.

 

[CF74]

Tony Romo admitted it was a option route when answering the question.

I don't really care which player was at fault, third and eleven in the Red Zone isn't the best time to have a young receiver "thinking" about what to do while Champ Bailey is covering him.

Keep things simple.

A draw or a screen would've been fine when you have the lead and a chip shot field goal in your pocket.

We let Denver back in the game by going for a first down (3rd and 14) deep in our own territory and turned it over again deep in their end doing the same thing (3rd and 11).

Having a receiver run a route past the sticks isn't the only way to convert a long first down, but it is the riskiest and we really don't need to early in games.

The offense is predicated on getting the ball down the filed in big chunks.

As Bill Parcells would say, there is a flip side to the pancake and it isn't pretty.

Quick checkdowns and screens aren't sexy, but they emphasize ball protection and getting the ball out of the quarterback's hands quickly.

Sometimes playing the odds and avoiding potential risky plays is the way to go.

I completely agree. We've been going for the home run so much it's expected. Maybe a little dump off to the flats would have only gotten us a field goal instead but kept us from shooting ourselves in the foot. Increased pass attempts = increased turnovers...

 

[Bluefin]

It is his job to defend his WRs. You said it best though, he was coaching his WR. Why would he need to coach him if Austin ran the right route?

The inside curl was going to bring Bailey with him inside and Brian Dawkins was already coming. Romo would have been throwing into double coverage instead of single coverage with the CB behind the WR.

Not buying it.

If the pass was on target, it was a first down and there was nothing Champ Bailey or Brian Dawkins could do about it, IMO.

Ray Sherman was doing his job and reviewing with Miles Austin what look he got and what route he ran. Austin showed him what he did and didn't look like a player who felt he was in the wrong to me.

Maybe he was.

All I can say is that he got open and the ball went outside.

We just need to eliminate those mistakes, whoever may be at fault, especially when in or close to either Red Zone.

 

[21Savage]

It is his job to defend his WRs. You said it best though, he was coaching his WR. Why would he need to coach him if Austin ran the right route?

The inside curl was going to bring Bailey with him inside and Brian Dawkins was already coming. Romo would have been throwing into double coverage instead of single coverage with the CB behind the WR.

Not buying it.

He'll coach him even after a great catch so I don't see your point there.

Drawing on your initial post, I think we can all agree that Miles is one of the most agreeable, non controversial and benevolent people on the team.

You can also see from those clips, especially the game video, that he stated his case without budging. This wasn't a situation where the WR immediately owned up to running the wrong route. He and Romo were having the coversation from the moment they got off the field till Ray came over. Austin continued by demonstrating to Ray what he saw on the field and why he turned the way he did. Now sources are backing up Austin by saying that he ran the right route.

I don't think you can conclusively say that Austin was at fault here, especially based on your deductions. And Bluefin is right, if that ball is low, even on an inside route, Dawkins doesn't get there quick enough and Austin as the chance for a tough catch.

 

[dcfanatic]

So the starting QB is explaining the correct route to the backup WR and the WR Coach comes over and talks to the WR, not the QB, and the OC is sitting close enough to hear if the QB is wrong, but the QB still may have been at fault?

"Aw, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" --Robert Browning

The route wasn't an option route.

Austin ran the correct route.

Watch the play again.

Romo was high and wide with the pass as he was with most of his passes on that day.

If he throws it on point the pass hits Miles coming out of his break.

Romo's explanation says a lot. He says that Austin is supposed to 'come back down he stem and break out IF NECESSARY'. Austin was coming back down the stem.

It only seems like it was a throw to the out route because the pass was so far off the mark.

You don't throw that out route with Champ over there for fear of him jumping the route and taking if for six if he's sitting on it. You throw the 'comeback' because there would be less of an angle for a defender to break on it.

And if you watch it again. If Austin was supposed to have an option to break it outside why would he 'turn in' on the route? He wouldn't. He would 'turn out' and then adjust.

Plays over. To the sideline they go and Romo won't take the blame for he piss poor throw. He's trying to spin it into some deal where he thought Austin was going to head to the sideline because of the inside help. Austin is pissed because it's not how the play was designed and he would have no way of knowing that Romo was thinking that was an option. Ray Sherman is over there to talk and calm things down. That's his job on this team. Garrett is just a facts and figures guy and it already onto the ideas of what to do on the next set of downs.

Post game. Romo instead of just saying the pass was one of his many errant throws instead tries to be diplomatic in saying it was just a miscommunication.

That didn't sit well with Miles. Hence the reason he avoided the media all week because he didn't want to talk about the issue. He didn't want to take blame for just doing his job and running the proper route. He didn't want to say Romo was being an *** for not just taking the hit for a poor throw. He knew Romo was already deep enough in it with the two fourth down throws. Plus he was annoyed that he didn't get a look on the last series of downs. He's frustrated.

Then we come to yesterday. He's told to make himself available to the media or face a fine from the league. He side steps the question. He wants to move on and hope he can be in the good graces of his QB come Sunday when he knows he will be starting opposite Crayton.

The QB is spoiled because everyone goes out of their way to coddle him. The WR wants some passes thrown his way this Sunday.

The end.

 

[btcutter]

It is clearly Austin's fault. He ran an awful comeback route, to which he decided not to comeback to the sideline. Add this to Hurd's terrible route in the end zone, not once, but twice, it really shows how much an experienced receiver is needed.

Watch how Champ played Austin. Champs hips were open to the inside to drive on an IN route. Romo probably saw that and threw an out. Austin didn't see the same thing Romo did so he basically stop and broke slightly in, where as Romo threw an out toward the sideline.

NOT ON THE SAME PAGE.

 

[Hostile]

There is no such thing as a correct option route running into double coverage when the other option runs away from it. Why is that so hard to admit?