Videos on somone recovering on Jaylon's type of injury

[Irvin88_4life]

I know what you're saying, but I really don't think Mara can do a darn thing about it at this point. The only info that Dallas may have had that others didn't would have been in the form of an off-the-record comment/opinion from the doctor. All he is obligated to say to the league is what the procedure was and whether the surgery went as planned or there were any complications during the surgery. I doubt he or any other doctor is required to state his/her opinion on recovery percentages. I haven't looked it up, but I'm sure this is not the first time a draft eligible player coming into the draft has been operated on by a team physician/specialist. It has never been an issue before and it won't be now, IMO.

I agree with what your saying but it doesn't matter when it comes to Mara.....not that he can do anything

 

[waldoputty]

I know what you're saying, but I really don't think Mara can do a darn thing about it at this point. The only info that Dallas may have had that others didn't would have been in the form of an off-the-record comment/opinion from the doctor. All he is obligated to say to the league is what the procedure was and whether the surgery went as planned or there were any complications during the surgery. I doubt he or any other doctor is required to state his/her opinion on recovery percentages. I haven't looked it up, but I'm sure this is not the first time a draft eligible player coming into the draft has been operated on by a team physician/specialist. It has never been an issue before and it won't be now, IMO.

I believe the good doctor presented a lot of information to all the teams and also to the press.
If Mara wants to make a case that the Cowboys got more info, it would be difficult to prove.
Here is an article on USA Today before the draft "Jaylon Smith's nerve issue still clouded, but surgeon says recovery odds 'very good'"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...aylon-smith-knee-nerve-injury-draft/83416394/
Here are quotes from the article:
Dr. Dan Cooper, who is “optimistic that his knee itself will be stable and a good knee and he’ll get all his strength back. And I also think he has a very good chance of getting his nerve recovery back.”
That’s because the lateral damage stretched Smith’s nerve “enough to make it go to sleep, but it wasn’t stretched enough to be structurally elongated or visually very damaged” like more severe injuries, Cooper told USA TODAY Sports. There’s normally a one-month lag time before the nerve regrows at all, and once it begins, the rate is only about 1 inch per month.
“He’s had time for his nerve to regrow 2 inches, and the area of where his nerve was injured is 6 inches above the muscle that it innervates,” said Cooper, who’s also theDallas Cowboys’ head team physician. “I wouldn’t really expect him to get much innervation back into that muscle for two or three more months. Then once it does – I’ve seen kids who are completely paralyzed like him on the lateral side and not able to pick their foot up at all (that) wind up being totally normal.”

Other portions of article:
A good sign for Smith: He said the tingling down his leg and into his foot continues to advance, which can indicate the nerve axons are growing.
“I feel different sensations every day,” Smith said. “But it’s a thing where it’s patience, so you don’t try to hype yourself up too much.”

 

[MileyDancer]

I got a friend that works there too and he said that Jaylon can play right now but we are milking it so the Giants don't cry to Goodell since Jaylon doctor is on our staff. He said Jaylon will play this season

Interesting. We shall see then, I guess.

 

[LandryFan]

I believe the good doctor presented a lot of information to all the teams and also to the press.
If Mara wants to make a case that the Cowboys got more info, it would be difficult to prove.
Here is an article on USA Today before the draft "Jaylon Smith's nerve issue still clouded, but surgeon says recovery odds 'very good'"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...aylon-smith-knee-nerve-injury-draft/83416394/
Here are quotes from the article:
Dr. Dan Cooper, who is “optimistic that his knee itself will be stable and a good knee and he’ll get all his strength back. And I also think he has a very good chance of getting his nerve recovery back.”
That’s because the lateral damage stretched Smith’s nerve “enough to make it go to sleep, but it wasn’t stretched enough to be structurally elongated or visually very damaged” like more severe injuries, Cooper told USA TODAY Sports. There’s normally a one-month lag time before the nerve regrows at all, and once it begins, the rate is only about 1 inch per month.
“He’s had time for his nerve to regrow 2 inches, and the area of where his nerve was injured is 6 inches above the muscle that it innervates,” said Cooper, who’s also the Dallas Cowboys’ head team physician. “I wouldn’t really expect him to get much innervation back into that muscle for two or three more months. Then once it does – I’ve seen kids who are completely paralyzed like him on the lateral side and not able to pick their foot up at all (that) wind up being totally normal.”

Thanks for that input, Waldo. I was pretty sure that all pertinent info had been made available to everybody. There's really not anything more the doctor could know or say than what he stated in that release.
JJ probably drafted him a little higher than he was projected to go, but they gained that ability through their 4-12 record. He was dang near a first round pick. It's not like he was "stolen".

 

[waldoputty]

Thanks for that input, Waldo. I was pretty sure that all pertinent info had been made available to everybody. There's really not anything more the doctor could know or say than what he stated in that release.
JJ probably drafted him a little higher than he was projected to go, but they gained that ability through their 4-12 record. He was dang near a first round pick. It's not like he was "stolen".

No problem.

The difference in what the Cowboys got may be their familiarity with Dr. Cooper.
Plus he may have looked them in the eye and said I think you have much better chance than 50-50 that he is the same player in 9-15 months, though of course I cannot give you a guarantee.

 

[KJJ]

The 2nd round is NOT supposed to work out as well as the 1st round.
The players are either less talented, and/or have injury/character issues.

The second round should work out pretty good if you draft smart. There's been a lot of great players taken in the second round. We've made some poor decisions in the second round.

 

[LandryFan]

No problem.

The difference in what the Cowboys got may be their familiarity with Dr. Cooper.
Plus he may have looked them in the eye and said I think you have much better chance than 50-50 that he is the same player in 9-15 months, though of course I cannot give you a guarantee.

My personal belief of what transpired can be found in the bolded part above.

 

[waldoputty]

The second round should work out pretty good if you draft smart. There's been a lot of great players taken in the second round. We've made some poor decisions in the second round.

These are the hard facts:
1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%)
2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%)

Based on the hard facts, this 2nd round strategy has performed better than average since 2009.
If Jaylon becomes a solid starter (lost some performance), it becomes significantly better than average.
If Jaylon becomes a generational player, it becomes incredibly better than average.

 

[KJJ]

These are the hard facts:
1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%)
2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%)

Based on the hard facts, this 2nd round strategy has performed better than average since 2009.
If Jaylon becomes a solid starter (lost some performance), it becomes significantly better than average.
If Jaylon becomes a generational player, it becomes incredibly better than average.

I've given you the facts we've missed on several #2 picks due to taking risks. See how many players you can name who we took a "risk" on in the first two rounds due to injury or off the field issues that panned out.

 

[waldoputty]

I've given you the facts we've missed on several #2 picks due to taking risks. See how many players you can name who we took a "risk" on in the first two rounds due to injury or off the field issues that panned out.

The current strategy coincided with Jason Garrett becoming coach in 2010. That is 1st round conservative and 2nd round risk taking.
Even if you want to look at the years after Parcells, there was only one 2nd round pick - Bennett.

Starting with 2010
2010 - Lee - borderline probowl
2011 - Carter - starter
2012 - no pick
2013 - Escobar - count as bust
2014 - Lawrence - starter
2015 - Gregory - bust
2016 - Jaylon -TBD

These numbers are pretty simple.
Out of 6 picks, you are 1 borderline probowler, 2 starters, 2 busts and 1 TBD
That is better than 50% success rate.
In comparison, DL success rate in 2nd round is 26% and LB success rate is 55%.

If you do the math, we are doing better than average.
If Jaylon becomes a star, then our 2nd round picks would be outstanding.

 

[KJJ]

The current strategy coincided with Jason Garrett becoming coach in 2010. That is 1st round conservative and 2nd round risk taking.
Even if you want to look at the years after Parcells, there was only one 2nd round pick - Bennett.

Starting with 2010
2010 - Lee - borderline probowl
2011 - Carter - starter
2012 - no pick
2013 - Escobar - count as bust
2014 - Lawrence - starter
2015 - Gregory - bust
2016 - Jaylon -TBD

These numbers are pretty simple.
Out of 6 picks, you are 1 borderline probowler, 2 starters, 2 busts and 1 TBD
That is better than 50% success rate.
In comparison, DL success rate in 2nd round is 26% and LB success rate is 55%.

If you do the math, we are doing better than average.
If Jaylon becomes a star, then our 2nd round picks would be outstanding.

We've covered this as far as it needs to go. Just wasting time!

 

[Plankton]

The current strategy coincided with Jason Garrett becoming coach in 2010. That is 1st round conservative and 2nd round risk taking.
Even if you want to look at the years after Parcells, there was only one 2nd round pick - Bennett.

Starting with 2010
2010 - Lee - borderline probowl
2011 - Carter - starter
2012 - no pick
2013 - Escobar - count as bust
2014 - Lawrence - starter
2015 - Gregory - bust
2016 - Jaylon -TBD

These numbers are pretty simple.
Out of 6 picks, you are 1 borderline probowler, 2 starters, 2 busts and 1 TBD
That is better than 50% success rate.
In comparison, DL success rate in 2nd round is 26% and LB success rate is 55%.

If you do the math, we are doing better than average.
If Jaylon becomes a star, then our 2nd round picks would be outstanding.

To be fair, in 2010, Wade Phillips was the head coach during that draft, not Jason Garrett.

 

[Scotman]

Correction: Gregory smoked them.

You're horrible.

Funny, but horrible.

 

[waldoputty]

To be fair, in 2010, Wade Phillips was the head coach during that draft, not Jason Garrett.

you are right.
just checked and jason became coach nov 2010.
so he does not get credit for lee.
and we need to start the clock with 2011 draft.
alternatively, if credit is given for lee, then responsibility has to be taken for bennett.

2011 - Carter - starter picked with 55% chance success rate
2012 - no pick
2013 - Escobar - count as bust with 50% success rate
2014 - Lawrence - starter with 26% success rate
2015 - Gregory - bust with 26% success rate
2016 - Jaylon -TBD with 55% success rate

thus our success rate is only a little better than average since DL rate is 26% and we got 1 starter out of 2 picks.
escobar is failed while carter was starter - so that is close to 55% rate.

jaylon will be the deciding factor in our 2nd round success under garrett and this apparent strategy.

 

[waldoputty]

You're horrible.

Funny, but horrible.

not funny today.
no help for DL this year