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I agree, in my view these are not JAG players these guys are difference makers. They have the ability to make the big plays and change the game. As for Pats, I think they are a great team and I expect Dallas to be the underdog but I also expect this team to show the will and fight to go out there looking to win. As for the fans I don't expect anyone to pick the Cowboys but I do expect the Cowboys not to back down to NE or any team. They will have to create turnovers in this game and set the offense up in situations where they are playing a short field.

I agree that we'll fight, but as they say, "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

We have a butter knife at that.
 

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I agree that we'll fight, but as they say, "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

We have a butter knife at that.


if they do not improve their play I agree. No team is unbeatable even the Pats. If Dallas plays as they have and tackle as poorly as they have then you are right we don't win.
 

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No, my argument remains, how many teams win without their top two offensive players when those players are as important to their offense as Romo and Dez.

You keep spinning and spinning and spinning. Let me ask you this...you act like this coaching staff won with Romo and Dez when, in reallity, they've done it once in the last 4 years. When we don't win with Romo and Dez, it's another excuse; when we don't win without Romo and Dez, it's because we don't have them.

You folks here are completely bi-polar. You spend all off-season pimping the line and anyone can run behind this line and now they're just not good enough. Folks spent all season pimping Weeden as the back-up and now he's just not good enough. People spent all season pimping TWill and now he's just not good enough. We have Carr, Claiborne (who's playing well), Lawrence, Byron Jones, Crawford (post contract), hayden (whom Rod loves and is irreplaceable) Hitchens (that everyone was drooling over), both our starting safeties and everyone here pimped every move this team made in the off-season but....you guessed it, now they're just not good enough. And how do folks lament not having Dez when Weeden doesn't look to throw to the receivers anyway? Completely hypoctical and bi-polar.

I didn't expect to win every game without Romo. He's the guy that keeps dolts like Garrett employed and that's become very, very obvious. But I do expect to "steal" a couple here and there to keep us to within striking distance when Romo gets back. Losing these games that we should win (and could have won) sinks the season deeper.

I've heard about how we were in some mystical 4 year rebuilding plan and we had some of the best depth in the league. And now, once again, we're just not good enough. We've been gashed by enough back-up QB's, with Romo and Dez playing by the way, that it's not unreasonable for me to expect we do the same and steal a couple of wins here and there.

And didn't Garrett fans, including myself at the time, pimp Garrett because he went 5 and 3 with Kitna in 2010? Did we not beat the Colts that season with a healthy Peyton manning and Reggie Wayne? Did we not beat Eli Manning with a healthy Manningham and Hicks? Did we not almost beat a Drew Brees with a healthy Colston and Graham and just lost in the final minutes (even though we had a shot to tie with a long FG)? you know which team I'm talking about......the team that was so devoid of talent that it took "Garrett" 4 years to replace/rebuild the roster of aging "wrong kind of guys" that took him to 5 and 3 with a back-up QB? And now, all of that is impossible even though it was miraculously possible with the inferior team Garrett inheritted and needed to rebuild which resulted in multiple 8 and 8 seasons.

Like I said, it's people like you and the folks that make excuses and complain about the fans, while pimping every roster move, that are the most hypocritical of all.
 

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Man, it seems like a lot of fans have been circling around waiting for that right moment to swoop in with the things they hate about this team: Marinelli sucks, Garrett sucks, get rid of the whole team.

Where were you guys last year when we were healthy and everything was going well?

I can't believe this many are so surprised or upset that we've lost the last two games without Romo and Dez and several other important players. This is a game of inches and we're giving up a mile without stars like that. It either says good things about our team or bad things about our opponents that we've actually been competitive with Weeden at QB, Williams as our lead receiver, players like Jack Crawford and Ryan Russell having to play significant snaps, a rookie linebacker who had played only a few snaps having to step in for Lee, etc.

When things fall apart like they have this year, you hope and pray for a win knowing that you should lose to teams that have a better QB starting, better No. 1 receiver, etc. The expectation around here are just unbelievable. Even if we were starting Cassel instead of Weeden, we could expect to go no better than .500 with Romo out because these guys are backups for a reason.

Great post! Sheeple like to pile on.
 

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You keep spinning and spinning and spinning. Let me ask you this...you act like this coaching staff won with Romo and Dez when, in reallity, they've done it once in the last 4 years. When we don't win with Romo and Dez, it's another excuse; when we don't win without Romo and Dez, it's because we don't have them.

You folks here are completely bi-polar. You spend all off-season pimping the line and anyone can run behind this line and now they're just not good enough. Folks spent all season pimping Weeden as the back-up and now he's just not good enough. People spent all season pimping TWill and now he's just not good enough. We have Carr, Claiborne (who's playing well), Lawrence, Byron Jones, Crawford (post contract), hayden (whom Rod loves and is irreplaceable) Hitchens (that everyone was drooling over), both our starting safeties and everyone here pimped every move this team made in the off-season but....you guessed it, now they're just not good enough. And how do folks lament not having Dez when Weeden doesn't look to throw to the receivers anyway? Completely hypoctical and bi-polar.

I didn't expect to win every game without Romo. He's the guy that keeps dolts like Garrett employed and that's become very, very obvious. But I do expect to "steal" a couple here and there to keep us to within striking distance when Romo gets back. Losing these games that we should win (and could have won) sinks the season deeper.

I've heard about how we were in some mystical 4 year rebuilding plan and we had some of the best depth in the league. And now, once again, we're just not good enough. We've been gashed by enough back-up QB's, with Romo and Dez playing by the way, that it's not unreasonable for me to expect we do the same and steal a couple of wins here and there.

And didn't Garrett fans, including myself at the time, pimp Garrett because he went 5 and 3 with Kitna in 2010? Did we not beat the Colts that season with a healthy Peyton manning and Reggie Wayne? Did we not beat Eli Manning with a healthy Manningham and Hicks? Did we not almost beat a Drew Brees with a healthy Colston and Graham and just lost in the final minutes (even though we had a shot to tie with a long FG)? you know which team I'm talking about......the team that was so devoid of talent that it took "Garrett" 4 years to replace/rebuild the roster of aging "wrong kind of guys" that took him to 5 and 3 with a back-up QB? And now, all of that is impossible even though it was miraculously possible with the inferior team Garrett inheritted and needed to rebuild which resulted in multiple 8 and 8 seasons.

Like I said, it's people like you and the folks that make excuses and complain about the fans, while pimping every roster move, that are the most hypocritical of all.

Season is not done yet, 4 games have been played we are currently 2-2 tied for 1st and have beaten division teams. I agree that a lot of guys need to play better and in some case to their ability that they have shown as recent as last season.
 

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So were you crying this last year or were you singing the praises of Linehan and Garrett?

I was praising the offensive line and the league's rushing champ along with a career year from our QB

Garrett did jack to contribute to the wins, he just stands there chewing gum and clapping

Same thing he did Sunday night. Garrett can only win if he has superior talent, if the other team is of equal or greater talent it's an L 95% of the time

At least half the posters on this board have known this and been saying this for years
 

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Funny, Wade was blamed for everything that went wrong during his tenure. He even accepted the blame for all the games that our offense was ineffective even though he had ZERO control of the offense. We all know who controlled the offensive game plan and calls. Just in case people do not remember - Hint "Princeton Smart - Football Stupid".
 

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Man, it seems like a lot of fans have been circling around waiting for that right moment to swoop in with the things they hate about this team: Marinelli sucks, Garrett sucks, get rid of the whole team.

Where were you guys last year when we were healthy and everything was going well?

I can't believe this many are so surprised or upset that we've lost the last two games without Romo and Dez and several other important players. This is a game of inches and we're giving up a mile without stars like that. It either says good things about our team or bad things about our opponents that we've actually been competitive with Weeden at QB, Williams as our lead receiver, players like Jack Crawford and Ryan Russell having to play significant snaps, a rookie linebacker who had played only a few snaps having to step in for Lee, etc.

When things fall apart like they have this year, you hope and pray for a win knowing that you should lose to teams that have a better QB starting, better No. 1 receiver, etc. The expectation around here are just unbelievable. Even if we were starting Cassel instead of Weeden, we could expect to go no better than .500 with Romo out because these guys are backups for a reason.

I've said it many times FANS live in the moment that's how they're programed and at the moment they're frustrated because many convinced themselves the entire offseason that the running game wouldn't miss a beat without Murray and that nothing will stand in the way of the Cowboys reaching SB 50. Last years surprising 12-4 season that saw a playoff win got everyone's expectations sky high heading into this season and that usually spells disaster. Many FANS were comparing the OL to the Great Wall of Dallas of the 90's and one FAN was so excited about the potential of the running game he nicknamed Randle and McFadden "Thunder and Lightning." LOL Go back and revisit how high the expectations were heading into the 2010 season after a surprising 2009 season that saw the teams first playoff win in 13 years. Last year at this time no one had anything to be frustrated about because the season was going much better than expected with the Cowboys 3-1 riding a 3 game winning streak. FANS never expect the worst they're not wired to expect the worst which is why they short circuit when things don't go the way they expected. If a key player goes down they'll find a silver lining/blessing in disguise or spin it into a positive just go back and look at some of the threads and comments that were posted when Dez was lost in the opener. The Cowboys won without him in the closing seconds so many felt we could overcome his loss. One FAN claimed the Cowboys would be better off without him. o_O

Even after Romo went down the following week there was still plenty of optimism because the Cowboys extended their lead over Philly with Weeden going 7-7 and a TD. Now after 2 straight losses reality is starting to set in for a few and their frustration is boiling over. Losing brings even the most optimistic FANS back to earth which results in a lot of knee jerk reactions due to frustration such as the Cowboys should move on from Lee and fire Garrett. FANS go from predicting the Cowboys in the SB to the Cowboys suck because they're fickle. I've been following the Cowboys since the 72 season and have never seen the team as decimated with injuries to key players as this year. The Cowboys are without their top 3 offensive players from last season. Imagine what the 90's Cowboys would have looked like without Aikman, Emmitt and Irvin. Most of us realists knew the loss of Murray in free agency would have a negative affect on the running game causing Romo to have to throw more which would increase the odds of losing him to injury.

The Cowboys are fielding a team that doesn't even resemble last years team and are very fortunate to be 2-2 right now and tied for the division lead. As weak a the NFC East is it may only take 8-9 wins to win the division so as bad as things look right now there's still a chance to salvage this season and reach the ultimate goal. If he Cowboys can somehow hang in they could end up being a very good team by Dec when their key players are back. Once Romo, Dez, Hardy, Ro and Gregory are on the field it's going to dramatically improve the team so the Cowboys need to try and stay afloat. It doesn't matter what your regular season record is as long as it's good enough to make the playoffs because anything can happen in the playoffs we've seen that with the Giants. The 2010 Packers had a bunch of players on IR and ended up winning the SB. The Cowboys are dead with the current team they're fielding but if they can hang in until everyone gets back there's still hope for this season.
 

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You keep spinning and spinning and spinning. Let me ask you this...you act like this coaching staff won with Romo and Dez when, in reallity, they've done it once in the last 4 years. When we don't win with Romo and Dez, it's another excuse; when we don't win without Romo and Dez, it's because we don't have them.

You folks here are completely bi-polar. You spend all off-season pimping the line and anyone can run behind this line and now they're just not good enough. Folks spent all season pimping Weeden as the back-up and now he's just not good enough. People spent all season pimping TWill and now he's just not good enough. We have Carr, Claiborne (who's playing well), Lawrence, Byron Jones, Crawford (post contract), hayden (whom Rod loves and is irreplaceable) Hitchens (that everyone was drooling over), both our starting safeties and everyone here pimped every move this team made in the off-season but....you guessed it, now they're just not good enough. And how do folks lament not having Dez when Weeden doesn't look to throw to the receivers anyway? Completely hypoctical and bi-polar.

I didn't expect to win every game without Romo. He's the guy that keeps dolts like Garrett employed and that's become very, very obvious. But I do expect to "steal" a couple here and there to keep us to within striking distance when Romo gets back. Losing these games that we should win (and could have won) sinks the season deeper.

I've heard about how we were in some mystical 4 year rebuilding plan and we had some of the best depth in the league. And now, once again, we're just not good enough. We've been gashed by enough back-up QB's, with Romo and Dez playing by the way, that it's not unreasonable for me to expect we do the same and steal a couple of wins here and there.

And didn't Garrett fans, including myself at the time, pimp Garrett because he went 5 and 3 with Kitna in 2010? Did we not beat the Colts that season with a healthy Peyton manning and Reggie Wayne? Did we not beat Eli Manning with a healthy Manningham and Hicks? Did we not almost beat a Drew Brees with a healthy Colston and Graham and just lost in the final minutes (even though we had a shot to tie with a long FG)? you know which team I'm talking about......the team that was so devoid of talent that it took "Garrett" 4 years to replace/rebuild the roster of aging "wrong kind of guys" that took him to 5 and 3 with a back-up QB? And now, all of that is impossible even though it was miraculously possible with the inferior team Garrett inheritted and needed to rebuild which resulted in multiple 8 and 8 seasons.

Like I said, it's people like you and the folks that make excuses and complain about the fans, while pimping every roster move, that are the most hypocritical of all.

First off, I've never "pimped" the line. I do not buy into the belief that the line makes the back. I think it takes both to make the running game operate.

If we lose with Romo and Dez, the coaching staff and front office deserve all the criticism they get if the running game ends up being the reason. If we lose with Romo and Dez because of the defense, I really don't know what to say since our offseason was geared to improving the defense. Either the scouts did poorly or the coaches did.

I've also never been on board with Weeden, so maybe you're directing this post at others. I thought we should have gotten rid of him last year.

All depth is not created equal. Weeden isn't close to as good as Romo. Williams isn't as close to as good as Dez. Etc.

Good depth is having Hardy, Mincey, Gregory and Lawrence as your top four ends. There is little you can do to plan for having three of those four guys missing against Atlanta and Mincey coming off a concussion against New Orleans.

We are in a bad situation injurywise and we just have to let it play out before we can really judge anything other than some backups not being able to fill the starters' shoes. We're not losing games we should win. We're losing games we should lose because we should lose to Matt Ryan and Drew Brees when our defense is missing key starters and we're without Romo and Bryant. But hopefully we will be able to steal at least a couple of wins before Romo returns. Otherwise, we'll probably be done for the year.
 

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if they do not improve their play I agree. No team is unbeatable even the Pats. If Dallas plays as they have and tackle as poorly as they have then you are right we don't win.

I agree that no team is unbeatable, but we're going to have to play extremely well on defense and the Pats are going to have to play poorly for us to win this one.
 

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I was praising the offensive line and the league's rushing champ along with a career year from our QB

Garrett did jack to contribute to the wins, he just stands there chewing gum and clapping

Same thing he did Sunday night. Garrett can only win if he has superior talent, if the other team is of equal or greater talent it's an L 95% of the time

At least half the posters on this board have known this and been saying this for years

Most head coaches are only as good as their personnel. The number of teams that win with inferior talent on a regular basis are few. Now, if you want to say Garrett is a bad coordinator, I completely agree. I'm glad Dallas fired that guy.
 

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Take Brady and Gronkowski off the Pats.

Take Rodgers and Cobb off the Packers.

Take Wilson and Lynch off the Seahawks.

Neither of those teams win without that much star power on offense.

May be true. However, were you not concerned about Romo staying healthy and Dez finding an early injury due to hold out? There is reason for Dallas to get a nice insurance policy for Romo. Weeden ain't that and neither is Street. BTW, GB lost Nelson already.
 

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May be true. However, were you not concerned about Romo staying healthy and Dez finding an early injury due to hold out? There is reason for Dallas to get a nice insurance policy for Romo. Weeden ain't that and neither is Street. BTW, GB lost Nelson already.

Weeden has played like a nice insurance policy. 2 TD's, just one pick, completing over 75 percent of his passes. Over 9 yards an attempt what more do you want from him?
 

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I agree that no team is unbeatable, but we're going to have to play extremely well on defense and the Pats are going to have to play poorly for us to win this one.

I agree. I'm not predicting anything only pointing out what I feel they must do to win the game. We must get some turnovers in this game creating short fields, guys are must make the tackles not allowing the extra yards and play clean (few penalties and no turnovers) Clearly if they continue to make mistakes NE is a team who will capitalize on those mistakes.
 

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I was praising the offensive line and the league's rushing champ along with a career year from our QB

Garrett did jack to contribute to the wins, he just stands there chewing gum and clapping

Same thing he did Sunday night. Garrett can only win if he has superior talent, if the other team is of equal or greater talent it's an L 95% of the time

At least half the posters on this board have known this and been saying this for years

You weren't saying it last year.
 

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You keep spinning and spinning and spinning. Let me ask you this...you act like this coaching staff won with Romo and Dez when, in reallity, they've done it once in the last 4 years. When we don't win with Romo and Dez, it's another excuse; when we don't win without Romo and Dez, it's because we don't have them.

You folks here are completely bi-polar. You spend all off-season pimping the line and anyone can run behind this line and now they're just not good enough. Folks spent all season pimping Weeden as the back-up and now he's just not good enough. People spent all season pimping TWill and now he's just not good enough. We have Carr, Claiborne (who's playing well), Lawrence, Byron Jones, Crawford (post contract), hayden (whom Rod loves and is irreplaceable) Hitchens (that everyone was drooling over), both our starting safeties and everyone here pimped every move this team made in the off-season but....you guessed it, now they're just not good enough. And how do folks lament not having Dez when Weeden doesn't look to throw to the receivers anyway? Completely hypoctical and bi-polar.

I didn't expect to win every game without Romo. He's the guy that keeps dolts like Garrett employed and that's become very, very obvious. But I do expect to "steal" a couple here and there to keep us to within striking distance when Romo gets back. Losing these games that we should win (and could have won) sinks the season deeper.

I've heard about how we were in some mystical 4 year rebuilding plan and we had some of the best depth in the league. And now, once again, we're just not good enough. We've been gashed by enough back-up QB's, with Romo and Dez playing by the way, that it's not unreasonable for me to expect we do the same and steal a couple of wins here and there.

And didn't Garrett fans, including myself at the time, pimp Garrett because he went 5 and 3 with Kitna in 2010? Did we not beat the Colts that season with a healthy Peyton manning and Reggie Wayne? Did we not beat Eli Manning with a healthy Manningham and Hicks? Did we not almost beat a Drew Brees with a healthy Colston and Graham and just lost in the final minutes (even though we had a shot to tie with a long FG)? you know which team I'm talking about......the team that was so devoid of talent that it took "Garrett" 4 years to replace/rebuild the roster of aging "wrong kind of guys" that took him to 5 and 3 with a back-up QB? And now, all of that is impossible even though it was miraculously possible with the inferior team Garrett inheritted and needed to rebuild which resulted in multiple 8 and 8 seasons.

Like I said, it's people like you and the folks that make excuses and complain about the fans, while pimping every roster move, that are the most hypocritical of all.

someone needs a hug.

i hate to be the one to break this to you, but i'm also sure i'm not the first to let you know this - but we all have our own reasons to be fans of this team. just cause my reason ain't your reason doesn't make my reason wrong. if you really want to call out hypocracy we can all sooner or later get tagged for it simply for nothing else than the other point of view. (ie, not our own).

but have a day lookin for that elusive huggins.
 

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Now, if you want to say Garrett is a bad coordinator, I completely agree. I'm glad Dallas fired that guy.

He needs to be fired from his clock management role as well. I think that the guys upstairs have completely taken over the challenge decision process, but that is probably true for many coaches.
 

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As soon as Romo went down, I was very vocal on here that the Cowboys would be lucky to win one game with Weeden. Many posters, you included, deceived yourself into believing that we could still win 3 or 4 games including the last two that we've lost. The injuries are the only reason why this team isn't 4-0, but don't use the injury excuse if you were still predicting W's as if Romo and Dez could be even marginally replaced.

Congratulations to you. I'm proud of you and to be associated with you as fellow fans. You're fantastic :thumbup:
 
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