Wade Phillips has not requested contract extension

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After that train wreck of a season last year, Wade knows better than to ask for an extension.


Serously guys, I think Wade knows he is gone after this season. The only way I see the club picking up his option year is if we go to atleast the NFC Championship game.

Anything less than that is curtains for Wade and I think he knows it.
 

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How much do you guys think Wade Phillips really cares if he returns to Dallas in 2010? Even if he wins here, why come back if he has other attractive offers - and he will? For instance, Norv Turner is pressed to win this year too in SD, and he'll be gone if he doesn't. That will open the door for Phillips to re-join SD as either their HC or DC, and quite possibly Dan Reeves as either the HC or OC there. And beyond SD, so many teams run a 3-4 now-a-days, that Phillips will be the hottest DC-commodity among free-agent coaches in 2010. So people here can hate on him all they want; it doesn't change the fact that he is a solid coach, who can afford to take an F-you approach with the media this season, simply because he knows he's better and more marketable than they portray him. Like it or not, that's the truth!
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2705548 said:
How much do you guys think Wade Phillips really cares if he returns to Dallas in 2010? Even if he wins here, why come back if he has other attractive offers - and he will? For instance, Norv Turner is pressed to win this year too in SD, and he'll be gone if he doesn't. That will open the door for Phillips to re-join SD as either their HC or DC, and quite possibly Dan Reeves as either the HC or OC there. And beyond SD, so many teams run a 3-4 now-a-days, that Phillips will be the hottest DC-commodity among free-agent coaches in 2010. So people here can hate on him all they want; it doesn't change the fact that he is a solid coach, who can afford to take an F-you approach with the media this season, simply because he knows he's better and more marketable than they portray him. Like it or not, that's the truth!

If Wade blows another season, I highly doubt he will get any more HC offers.

Wade is what he is, a very good defensive coordinator and he could get a DC job in 5 mins if he is fired after this year.
 

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Showalter;2705231 said:
I just met Wade at Ralphs in L.A, I told him that I was glad we kept him and he honestly seemed like he almost didn't want to be kept!

It was weird, nice guy though, snapped a photo, talked defense and all.

If your instincts are correct about Wade, then we are in for a long year.
 

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RoadRunner;2705554 said:
If your instincts are correct about Wade, then we are in for a long year.

I think if Garret would have left then Wade would have been right behind him.


I think Wade is just keeping the seat warm for Shanny next year. Shanny will be HC of the Cowboys in 2010.
 

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YoMick;2705448 said:
Why has a story been created for this?

I thought Wade was finishing out the contract and that THAT was understood.


Oh, I know!!!

The media is preparing their weekly lame duck hunting season attacks.

I agree...why is this news?

News would be if Phillips went to Jones and asked for an extension and was denied. Not asking for an extension is not news.

Maybe Phillips has planned to retire after this deal is up.

Dallas media=garbage
 

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Beast_from_East;2705594 said:
I think if Garret would have left then Wade would have been right behind him.


I think Wade is just keeping the seat warm for Shanny next year. Shanny will be HC of the Cowboys in 2010.

If the offense has a good to great yr, it wont be. And I think they are going to.

It'll be Garrett.
 

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dbair1967;2705603 said:
If the offense has a good to great yr, it wont be. And I think they are going to.

It'll be Garrett.

I would think our offense would have to be top 10 for Garrett to have any shot at all.

The question is who would run the defense if Wade is fired???

I dont believe for one second that Wade would take a demotion to DC and let Garrett be promoted to HC. I think Wade has too much pride for that.
 

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dbair1967;2705602 said:
I agree...why is this news?

News would be if Phillips went to Jones and asked for an extension and was denied. Not asking for an extension is not news.

Maybe Phillips has planned to retire after this deal is up.

Dallas media=garbage
It's not an irrelevant question at all for the media to ask about this.

Parcells and Jones made a big deal 3 years ago out of giving Parcells an extension so he wouldn't appear to be a lame duck coach.

The difference now is everyone knows that Phillips in fact is a lame duck coach.
 

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Bungarian;2705245 said:
If he wins a playoff game he gets an extension. Simple as that.

after his gigantic flop in a season that was SB or bust he shouldn't be let off the hook with a playoffs win
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2705548 said:
How much do you guys think Wade Phillips really cares if he returns to Dallas in 2010? Even if he wins here, why come back if he has other attractive offers - and he will? For instance, Norv Turner is pressed to win this year too in SD, and he'll be gone if he doesn't. That will open the door for Phillips to re-join SD as either their HC or DC, and quite possibly Dan Reeves as either the HC or OC there. And beyond SD, so many teams run a 3-4 now-a-days, that Phillips will be the hottest DC-commodity among free-agent coaches in 2010. So people here can hate on him all they want; it doesn't change the fact that he is a solid coach, who can afford to take an F-you approach with the media this season, simply because he knows he's better and more marketable than they portray him. Like it or not, that's the truth!

Wade will never be a HC in the league again. He really isn't even the head coach here which is obvious to everybody in the NFL.

Given all of the pro-bowlers and first rounders on defense, Wade really hasn't done that much as a DC. While he seems to put up impressive sack totals (thanks Ware) we were well into the bottom half of the league in terms of points allowed (20th). Even so, he'll probably get a DC role, but certainly not a head coaching gig.
 

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Beast_from_East;2705608 said:
I would think our offense would have to be top 10 for Garrett to have any shot at all.

The question is who would run the defense if Wade is fired???

I dont believe for one second that Wade would take a demotion to DC and let Garrett be promoted to HC. I think Wade has too much pride for that.

They'll find someone to run the defense, will they be as good as Wade? Probably not, but I'm sure someone adequate can be hired.

If you think this offense (assuming decent health) isnt finishing in the top-10, you are fooling yourself.
 

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The entire coaching staff is on the hot seat this coming season. The pressure must be intense.

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If Shanahan is here next year, that absolutely puts an end to the Jason Garrett project. It is the bread-and-butter of Mike to run an offense and he runs a West-Coast offense, while the bum Garrett runs an offense like Martz, but he is, right now, more inept at it. It is also interesting, because Wade would lose his job to the same guy that replaced him in Denver. If Wade is gone and Shanahan here, the loss of Garrett is the only silver lining. But then again, Jerry doesn't seem to fire his pet projects...
 

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I wonder if Wade was implying something as it relates to his contract when he opened up to the media again. Wade himself alluded to the fact that a head coach really needs FOUR years to implement his vision. If there is anybody that hasn't had much luck when it comes to implementing his own vision as a head coach it is Wade. He has been an interim head coach twice, serving as a coach to finish out a season where the previous head coach was fired. In the case of Dallas, he got ham-strung with the bum Garrett and even Wade's attempt at getting Dan Reeves to assist in the offense failed in the long-run. It is really strange....
 

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Double Trouble;2705618 said:
Parcells and Jones made a big deal 3 years ago out of giving Parcells an extension so he wouldn't appear to be a lame duck coach.

The difference now is everyone knows that Phillips in fact is a lame duck coach.

My initial thought was that it doesn't seem to be Wade's nature to demand or even initiate discussions about an extension, making this a non-story. What that says about his ability to demand anything from the players is certainly open for debate.

DT's comments above, however, certainly give a new perspective.

I still think that Wade would say something like "if Mr. Jones is happy with my work and the progress of this team, specifically the fact that we were able to go 13-3:) , then those things will work themselves out".

I tend to agree, though, that Wade knows that any extension would most certainly be performance-based, and can't be determined until the end of our season.
 

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Doomsay;2705649 said:
Wade will never be a HC in the league again. He really isn't even the head coach here which is obvious to everybody in the NFL.


Given all of the pro-bowlers and first rounders on defense, Wade really hasn't done that much as a DC. While he seems to put up impressive sack totals (thanks Ware) we were well into the bottom half of the league in terms of points allowed (20th). Even so, he'll probably get a DC role, but certainly not a head coaching gig.
You also forgot that Brian Stewart was coaching the defense for five games. Our sack totals were not just impressive in that we led the league in sacks, it was impressive because it happened when Wade took over. The sack total didn't just go up, it went up dramatically. Also, the defense got a turnover every game, averaging close to two a game, which is downright impressive. When Stewart was the coach, there were two games that we didn't record a turn over, and the only game in which we were OK TO wise was against Arizona, which was a 3 TO game, which actually blurs the lack of pressure Stewart was generating. Our sacks were in garbage time. It was like a difference between night and day. Further, Wade didn't involve himself too much in the defense when he handed it off two seasons ago to Stewart. Now, he is coaching the defense from the very start of the season. Wade was also hamstrung by the fact that he inherited a bunch of bums at safety, that couldn't cover worth a dime. Now he has Igor and gotten a good cover-safety and LBs that know his defense. Wade emphasized busted assigments over the season, so he has gotten smart players. If anything, the highlight of this year is going to be the defense, and I think it is not just going to be top-five, it is going to be ridiculously sick.
 
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