Wade said they didn't prepare for the Skins passing

[Doomsday101]

Who cares about Roy...we know he stinks, but he is the starter and it doesn't look like it will change anytime soon.
I still don't understand Wade's philosophy of stopping the run. In my opinion, no team who runs better than they pass in this league can compete....at least not in this era. It should be his priority to stop the pass first every week.

yesterday 5 RB went for 100 yard rushing and 4 of those teams won. yet man of the 300 yard passers did not fair as well. Running is still a key in the NFL, the games rules have changed but the importance of a running attack has not. Wade like any coach looked at the opponent’s tendency

 

[Hoofbite]

zomg.....credibility attack!!!!1e11one!

Nicely done.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

You makes some good points. It is extremely difficult to stop everything. My problem is that we didn't seem to make adjustments early enough. The soft-zone we played in the 2nd quarter was a sign that we weren't prepared. It was almost an exact blue-print of what the Pat's did to us, using the short pass to roll up first down after first down. Giving up 28 first downs to the Skin's offense is not a positive. I have two criticism's of this defense:

1. We sometimes focus a bit too much on stopping the run
2. We play a great deal of soft zone

I think you bring up a valid point. Dallas' biggest problem under a Phillips' style defense is the lack of a Williams type NT. I think both ILBs play a step closer and look run first because there are some concerns about the NT holding up to a double. This leads to the LBs not getting the depth of drop that they need.

Dallas has yet to be just run over by a ground attack but it still appears that that is the biggest concern.

 

[adamknite]

You makes some good points. It is extremely difficult to stop everything. My problem is that we didn't seem to make adjustments early enough. The soft-zone we played in the 2nd quarter was a sign that we weren't prepared. It was almost an exact blue-print of what the Pat's did to us, using the short pass to roll up first down after first down. Giving up 28 first downs to the Skin's offense is not a positive. I have two criticism's of this defense:

1. We sometimes focus a bit too much on stopping the run
2. We play a great deal of soft zone

I agree 100% with that. And with the rest of the post.

 

[dmq]

Was it in the pregame where Joe Gibbs said he was going to try to exploit Roy Williams? I can't believe we couldn't make adjustments at halftime.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think you bring up a valid point. Dallas' biggest problem under a Phillips' style defense is the lack of a Williams type NT. I think both ILBs play a step closer and look run first because there are some concerns about the NT holding up to a double. This leads to the LBs not getting the depth of drop that they need.

Dallas has yet to be just run over by a ground attack but it still appears that that is the biggest concern.

That short-passing game defense is really a problem.

 

[Oh_Canada]

yesterday 5 RB went for 100 yard rushing and 4 of those teams won. yet man of the 300 yard passers did not fair as well. Running is still a key in the NFL, the games rules have changed but the importance of a running attack has not. Wade like any coach looked at the opponent’s tendency

Three of the five best passing teams also won...so what does that prove? You are telling me you would rather have Chester Taylor's 160 yds rushing or Tom Brady's 373 yds passing?

Don't forget:

Top three passing teams are a combined 28-1

Top three rushing teams: 18-12

 

[chinch]

Wade Phillips said yesterday that they focused on stopping the Skins running game too much and they were unprepared for the passing scheme Gibbs implemented.

glad to hear him admit the obvious.

unfortunately they attacked Roy immediately and our adjustments were very, very slow. we didnt' need 3 guys deep covering moss, gimme a break if that was Zimmer the board would be going NUTS.

call it a HUNCH but he wouldnt' have passed 54 times if he wasn't having success with a great probability of continued success.

to summarize they exploited the same known, glaring hole we've had for years - that NE abused us with in our only loss - and they kept exploiting it until the final play

 

[tyke1doe]

I assume that 14-13 win two years ago when Moss torched us deep twice still looms large with Dallas. Let them beat us underneath compared to over the top. Hey, it worked. <insert browse-wiping smilie>

 

[Doomsday101]

Three of the five best passing teams also won...so what does that prove? You are telling me you would rather have Chester Taylor's 160 yds rushing or Tom Brady's 373 yds passing?

Don't forget:

Top three passing teams are a combined 28-1

Top three rushing teams: 18-12

I'm saying the running game is still a big part of the NFL and Taylor getting 160 and beating you is no different that Brady throwing for 373 and beating you in the end you lost.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

That short-passing game defense is really a problem.

I really put a lot of that on James and Ayodele. They really aren't coverage linebackers but they're needed as run stuffers so it's a catch-22.


The biggest problem with allowing a short passing game is the degree of fatique it creates on the defense. Much moreso than a running game.

I know everyone was happy with the two long Owens TDs, but long TDs don't allow the defense time to rest and Dallas sorely needed a rest in the 4th quarter.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

That's what Wade was obviously referring to when he said in the list of things the team had to overcome..."overcome bad coaching".

At least he is stand up enought to admit. During the game I said Gibbs was outcoaching us.

 

[FCBarca]

If you look at the way the Boys prepared for the Eagles game, their pass defense was clearly better because they prepared for it. They keyed on Westbrook's underneath patterns and played with a dime for the most part and it worked to perfection on confusing Mcflabb.

Wade Phillips said yesterday that they focused on stopping the Skins running game too much and they were unprepared for the passing scheme Gibbs implemented. By the way, too much Roy Williams bashing in this forum. I thought he played well (nice drive ending tackle on Cooley in the third Q). All this whining and crying over the Boys defense is silly. Phillips admitted they weren't prepared on defense. Implementing a soft zone coverage in the second quarter was a sign of confusion (Help, we don't know who will cover who, so play soft zone so we don't get beat deep!). Take it or leave it guys, coaches in this league do miss the mark at times, and yesterday the Boys missed it.

Yeah, that seems about right...One nice play from Roy keeping Cooley from a 1st down (ankle tackle) AFTER the catch...Nevermind the numerous times he failed in pass coverage and his nonexistence on any key tackles apart from that one...One good thing, several poor things...Yeah, enough RW bashing

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I really put a lot of that on James and Ayodele. They really aren't coverage linebackers but they're needed as run stuffers so it's a catch-22.


The biggest problem with allowing a short passing game is the degree of fatique it creates on the defense. Much moreso than a running game.

I know everyone was happy with the two long Owens TDs, but long TDs don't allow the defense time to rest and Dallas sorely needed a rest in the 4th quarter.

I thought the same thing, "We're scoring much too quickly!"

 

[vicjagger]

...
Top three passing teams are a combined 28-1

Top three rushing teams: 18-12

That 28-1 record would only be possible w/ 2 undefeated teams.

 

[smarta5150]

That definately makes sense. Looked like we wanted to stop the run and the deep pass at all costs, and never adjusted to take away the intermediate medium-range stuff or the short outside stuff.



zomg.....credibility attack!!!!1e11one!

You don't have the credibility to judge anyone's credibility.

This from the guy that thinks our defense was the reason we almost lost the Bills game.

I love the sarcasm

 

[Kangaroo]

That 28-1 record would only be possible w/ 2 undefeated teams.

ok so he slipped 28-2

 

[AdamJT13]

That short-passing game defense is really a problem.

The problem is that we were playing soft zone coverage ("keep everything underneath, don't get beat deep") and not getting enough pressure on the quarterback. When you play zone coverage, there will ALWAYS be open receivers at some point. And if the quarterback has time to find them, he'll probably complete the pass if he makes a good throw and the receiver doesn't drop it. You need to pressure the quarterback to create poor throws or keep him from seeing all of the zone defenders.

Out of Campbell's 33 completions, 22 of them were thrown 7 yards or less, mostly underneath zone coverage. Five more were thrown 9-14 yards, or about the depth of the first zone. Only six of them were actually thrown past the first level of zone coverage.

 

[smarta5150]

The problem is that we were playing soft zone coverage ("keep everything underneath, don't get beat deep") and not getting enough pressure on the quarterback. When you play zone coverage, there will ALWAYS be open receivers at some point. And if the quarterback has time to find them, he'll probably complete the pass if he makes a good throw and the receiver doesn't drop it. You need to pressure the quarterback to create poor throws or keep him from seeing all of the zone defenders.

Out of Campbell's 33 completions, 22 of them were thrown 7 yards or less, mostly underneath zone coverage. Five more were thrown 9-14 yards, or about the depth of the first zone. Only six of them were actually thrown past the first level of zone coverage.

NICE stats.

I didn't even realize this.

Too bad those attacking the SECONDARY will see right through this post.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Phillips admitted they weren't prepared on defense.

Lucky for him TO and Tony bailed him out.