Wade: The player's coach.

[cowboyjoe]

I wouldn't bet the farm on Wade being back next year even if he does have some post season success.

Jerry might go ahead and promote Garrett instead of taking the risk of losing him to another team.I just can't see Jerry taking the risk of losing Garrett after paying for his education here in Dallas.If Jerry truly thinks that Jason is the next coach here in Dallas he won't take the risk of losing him.

Craig

i understand what your saying, but if wade does win at least 2 playoff games, say we have to go by the route of the wildcard, I think jerry would have to go with wade. No matter what!

I think jerry would tell jason that this is the last year for wade, that he is only picking up his one year option. I am not opposed to wade being here next year if he can get us some playoffs wins. BUT he must get us to the playoffs and win so the players realize how fast tempo the playoffs are compared to the regular season and how even faster tempo pace the NFC championship game is. Thats the main thing to me, at least get to that big game. Sure, I would like the cowboys to go to the superbowl and win, but you cant win all the time. Besides looks like the Colts might be destined to win the big game this year. Might be hard to beat the colts and peyton manning. Im not saying it cant be done, but some years, you can see a team that is super bowl bound.

 

[burmafrd]

We have only a short window before major players start getting old. We are already there on the O line with the Hotel; and our overall lack of depth there. Wade inherited a playoff team and supposedly its more talented now and yet nothing. even if he wins a playoff game this year what does that really say? we beat a 3rd or 4th seed then lose the next one. Thats very little progress as far as I am concerned for 3 years work. Win ONE MORE GAME in 3 years.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Everybody wants to get rid of Wade, but what will happen to our defense if we do? Careful what you wish for cause you just might get it.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Everybody wants to get rid of Wade, but what will happen to our defense if we do? Careful what you wish for cause you just might get it.

Well played.

But I think I'd rather take a chance on keeping a young and promising coach, rather than losing him to hold on to a 63 year old defensive mind who isn't here for the long haul.

Not to mention I'm not a fan of Wade as HC no matter how he does in the playoffs. I love him as DC, not as HC

 

[craig71]

i understand what your saying, but if wade does win at least 2 playoff games, say we have to go by the route of the wildcard, I think jerry would have to go with wade. No matter what!

I think jerry would tell jason that this is the last year for wade, that he is only picking up his one year option. I am not opposed to wade being here next year if he can get us some playoffs wins. BUT he must get us to the playoffs and win so the players realize how fast tempo the playoffs are compared to the regular season and how even faster tempo pace the NFC championship game is. Thats the main thing to me, at least get to that big game. Sure, I would like the cowboys to go to the superbowl and win, but you cant win all the time. Besides looks like the Colts might be destined to win the big game this year. Might be hard to beat the colts and peyton manning. Im not saying it cant be done, but some years, you can see a team that is super bowl bound.

I think another variable will be how this team wins.I would think that if they win some low scoring games that would help Wade retain his job for another year.Low scoring victories like the first Commanders game will favor Wade.

I also think that if the defense struggles down the stretch and allows a bunch of points that favors Garrett being the head man next year.If they score 38 but allow 35 that's a win for the team but a loss for Wades' return.

There are many other factors to consider as well.How does Jerry see this team going forward?What does Stephen think?How many HC positions will be open at the end of the year?Will Garrett get any interviews?What do GM's think of Garrett behind closed doors?Is there a rift between Garrett and Wade?How does Garrett interact with the personnel?Does Garrett share the same philosophy as Jerry about the future of this team?How does Garrett stack up against the other candidates?

Those are just a few questions that have to be answered,there are many more.The same questions you ask yourself about Jason you also have to ask yourself about Wade.

Regardless of what happens it will be interesting.Hopefully they will make the right decision and that decision will pay dividends for a long time.


Craig

 

[NextGenBoys]

I think another variable will be how this team wins.I would think that if they win some low scoring games that would help Wade retain his job for another year.Low scoring victories like the first Commanders game will favor Wade.

I also think that if the defense struggles down the stretch and allows a bunch of points that favors Garrett being the head man next year.If they score 38 but allow 35 that's a win for the team but a loss for Wades' return.

There are many other factors to consider as well.How does Jerry see this team going forward?What does Stephen think?How many HC positions will be open at the end of the year?Will Garrett get any interviews?What do GM's think of Garrett behind closed doors?Is there a rift between Garrett and Wade?How does Garrett interact with the personnel?Does Garrett share the same philosophy as Jerry about the future of this team?How does Garrett stack up against the other candidates?

Those are just a few questions that have to be answered,there are many more.The same questions you ask yourself about Jason you also have to ask yourself about Wade.

Regardless of what happens it will be interesting.Hopefully they will make the right decision and that decision will pay dividends for a long time.


Craig

Good post and congrats on 1000.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Before we get all dewey-eyed about Wade, just remember this: there are two kinds of player coaches, the Wade soft coach who is loved and the Jimma hard coach who is respected.

I never had a coach I loved. I have had plenty of coaches I did respect.

Iffin I am a player, Wade I could love instantly. He don't get mad, he don't call me accountable in public and he don't make me practice hard all the time.

Jimma I could respect instantly. He gets mad because he hates to lose. He hold me accountable like every other worker in the regular world. And he make me practice hard. All the time. Practice till ah puke on da trainer's shoes.

Now, I see Wade being called a defensive genius post-New Orleans. Before that he was faltering at defense with a secondary that would often get sliced and diced and a front line that often could hurry a QB but not crush him like lately.

You all who are ready to play nice with Wade don't recall the past several years of futility and shrugs and the "we're fine" mentality that let the Cowboys become complascent and believing in how great they are until they meet a Giants or even a Broncos team.

Wade is done. Stick a fork in him.
Save an NFC championship, Jerra will be interviewing coaches after the season is over or maybe he's already told Shanny to hold fire and wait a couple of weeks.

Hanging on to Wade is like hanging on to the side of the Titanic. You know it's going down and all there is to do is to save the womens and the childrens and hopes there is lifeboats for yew and me. And them ready to eat meals aboard until we reach the coast of Ireland.

So mens, let's honor Wade for the good effort he tried to mount. Honor him for being a nice guy and a "players coach."
Just don't make me puke with his depiction of a defensive guru or a coach who deserves another year. It aint so and the Cowboys can and will do better.

Sorry I had to be this rough on yew, yew Wade lovers.
But let us move on with Jerra and the Cowboys and on to better things than no playoffs or one and out in the playoffs.

LSMFT

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Careful what you wish for cause you just might get it.

Put it in granite...

 

[adbutcher]

Everybody wants to get rid of Wade, but what will happen to our defense if we do? Careful what you wish for cause you just might get it.

Out of both the foolish and the wise groups only one group will get this.

 

[Eddie]

Sometimes people delay making a decision, until the facts of the matter force a decision. I think that's what happened with Folk.

It wasn't Wade's decision. It was Jerry's.

 

[casmith07]

I'm thinking that a lot of the people who love Wade as a HC have to be young (in their 20's or teens) because I remember Landry and Jimmy. Now they were coaches. To have anything less is a rip off if you ask me.

I'm not sure where you are getting that anyone "loves" Wade.

Jimmy grossly overlooked player misconduct too, both at The U and in Dallas.

 

[Fmart322]

I'm not sure where you are getting that anyone "loves" Wade.

Jimmy grossly overlooked player misconduct too, both at The U and in Dallas.

I see a lot of people posting that this is Wade's team and they believe in Wade. Seriously, what has Wade ever done as a HC in the NFL? Went 0-4 in post season games. 0-1 with the Cowboys with a 13-3 team. Biggest playoff letdown I've ever seen in over 30 years of Cowboys football.

I don't get how your throwing Jimmy into this? I know he let some players slip under the rug but those players were very good or else they wouldn't have been on the field or in Dallas period. He also got 3 rings with players who were "Grossly overlooked for their misconduct".

Here's a question, We have Washington and Philly comming up, who would you rather have coaching this team, Wade or Jimmy?

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I see a lot of people posting that this is Wade's team and they believe in Wade. Seriously, what has Wade ever done as a HC in the NFL? Went 0-4 in post season games. 0-1 with the Cowboys with a 13-3 team. Biggest playoff letdown I've ever seen in over 30 years of Cowboys football.

I don't get how your throwing Jimmy into this? I know he let some players slip under the rug but those players were very good or else they wouldn't have been on the field or in Dallas period. He also got 3 rings with players who were "Grossly overlooked for their misconduct".

Here's a question, We have Washington and Philly comming up, who would you rather have coaching this team, Wade or Jimmy?

Wade vs Philly.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think the boat hasn't come in yet. The next two weeks will go a long way in fixing Wade's rep. And then the first round of the playoffs. Everyone loves a winner. Losers are harder.

Added to and quoted for Truth.

If Wade takes this team to a Super Bowl and wins, he'll be considered a coach like Tony Dungy.

If Wade falls short, he'll be viewed as Marty Schottenheimer-lite.

Both are great coaches, in my opinion. But Dungy gets the nod because he finally won the big game and Marty didn't.

Your final reputation is determined by winning the ultimate prize. The same holds true for Wade as it does for Romo.

Win and Romo's another Peyton or Eli Manning. Lose and he's ... Donovan McNabb.

 

[tyke1doe]

Jimmy grossly overlooked player misconduct too, both at The U and in Dallas.

What was he overlooking?

Jimmy let players be themselves. Not that I like all the showboating, but that showboating didn't impact how they performed on the field. In fact, it probably added a level of confidence.

As for overlooking things, Jimmy probably treated the players more like adults than they should have been. But Jimmy was probably of the attitude, "If you do anything that gets you kicked off the team, that's on you."

Criminal acts take care of themselves via law enforcement and the judicial system.

I find it interesting that the Cowboys started to come apart once Jimmy left. Apparently, Jimmy was able to stress football enough so that the troublemakers kept it in check until he left.

 

[theogt]

Wade is a good coordinator but a piss poor head coach (IMO).

The biggesy hang-up I have with Wade is his lack of detail.He overlooks the small things all too often.That's been one of the knocks on Wade at every head coaching job he's held.


Craig

Lack of detail? Maybe you mean "lack of attention to detail."

Irony of the statement notwithstanding, I'd be curious as to what you actually mean by the statement. Any examples?

 

[Don Corleone]

Why are we debating Wade vs. Jimmy? Jimmy left this team 16 years ago and isn't going to come back.

The NFL is different now, and I don't think Jimmy's style would succeed today. Case in point, he was unable to repeat his success with the Dolphins once free agency and the salary cap kicked in.

 

[Fmart322]

Wade vs Philly.

Being a student you don't remember Jimmy Johnson then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Johnson_(American_football_coach)

 

[Fmart322]

Why are we debating Wade vs. Jimmy? Jimmy left this team 16 years ago and isn't going to come back.

The NFL is different now, and I don't think Jimmy's style would succeed today. Case in point, he was unable to repeat his success with the Dolphins once free agency and the salary cap kicked in.

I think Jimmy's style could still work in todays game. I was pointing out how a lot of the younger posters, ones who never saw Jimmy or Landry coach, see Wade as a good HC in the NFL.

 

[tyke1doe]

Why are we debating Wade vs. Jimmy? Jimmy left this team 16 years ago and isn't going to come back.

The NFL is different now, and I don't think Jimmy's style would succeed today. Case in point, he was unable to repeat his success with the Dolphins once free agency and the salary cap kicked in.

What hurt Jimmy with Miami were two things:

1. Dan Marino ran the show in Miami and even the Great Jimmy Johnson (who wanted to make the Dolphins a more run-oriented team) wasn't big enough to overcome Marino.

2. Free agency wasn't as mobile then as it was now. Jimmy's problem was that he couldn't acquire talent in Miami like he could in Dallas or even today. Miami lacked that franchise back to center the offense around. Jimmy retooled the Dolphins defense (that 62-7 shellacking by the Jags in the playoffs notwithstanding), but he just couldn't get a back who could be his Emmitt Smith.
Today, it's easier to acquire good backs because free agency is more laxed than it was back when Jimmy was coaching.

However, there's no question that Jimmy Johnson, if he had the proper talent, could take a team farther than it could go with an average coach.