Twitter: Wagner to Rams

[Sydla]

And there's no chance that happens. We will need two or three guys to play like Parsons. We're lucky to even have him!!

They looked at last year's losing team and intentionally made it worse. The Rams looked at last year's super bowl winning team and made it better.

Imagine we run into these guys in the playoffs. How could we possibly compete? Then again, will we even make the playoffs? We should because our division is a garbage pit. But we've done NOTHING to widen the gap between us and them

I don't know what it is. But the one thing is clear is that they have an exaggerated impression of themselves when it comes to drafting.

They fix zero holes in FA. Even when they sign guys - take Fowler and Washington for example - neither is intended to solve a problem. They are just basically warm bodies and fall backs in case they can't land a stud in the draft. But the problem is that each year they have more holes to be fixed via the draft that can actually be reasonably filled. If you get 2 "studs" out of a draft that's a home run. If you get a stud and two good players, that's a win. But if you need to get 4-5 really good players out of a draft that can make immediate impacts, the odds are basically zero that can happen. This team needs another high level starting caliber DE. They clearly need an upgrade at LG. They need a wrecker at DT. They could use another talented LB to allow Parons to move around more. They need a WR, especially if Gallup takes time to get back from injury.

They "solved" zero these positions. Oh they may have signed a body or two, but no one truly fixes a clear issue.

And that's why this team always seems to be a few positions away from having a team that can make a legitimate postseason run.

 

[Aven8]

The Rams have no picks so they have no choice to pay FA’s. They were also a Cincy Oline away from losing the SB.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Thinking you can fix all of your problems in the draft is why this team hasn’t sniffed an NFCCG in 27 years. The fans that think this is normal and it’s all good and the cowboys are good and will be fine are part of the problem

Whilst it doesnt explain the whole 27 year period the main issue does tend to be revolve around overpaid contract extensions to good, but, not elite talent. We rely on the draft and JAG's and/or reclamation projects because that's what you can get for your money.

We have just reset the CAP, we arent going to use that advantage up immediately when we've a number of glaring weaknesses.

 

[Sydla]

The Rams have no picks so they have no choice to pay FA’s. They were also a Cincy Oline away from losing the SB.

Maybe but at least they were in a position to possibly lose in the SB to Cincy.

We haven't sniffed that kind of position in 25 years.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dallas gave Fowler 12m$ AAV. Was he really that much better a signing than Wagner would have been?

 

[Aven8]

Dallas gave Fowler 12m$ AAV. Was he really that much better a signing than Wagner would have been?

I knew when they brought back LVE that Wagner wasn’t in the cards anymore. They are so easy to read when they make moves.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I don't necessarily support trading away high picks, but why in the world are we not trying everything to win now while we have a decent roster?

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Hmm, if there is a drawback to hitting a home run with Micah Parsons, it may be this. Jerry just won a big pot at the casino, and now he’s hooked.

 

[phildadon86]

Whilst it doesnt explain the whole 27 year period the main issue does tend to be revolve around overpaid contract extensions to good, but, not elite talent. We rely on the draft and JAG's and/or reclamation projects because that's what you can get for your money.

We have just reset the CAP, we arent going to use that advantage up immediately when we've a number of glaring weaknesses.

We have the 12th most cap space currently with 15 million. And we’re sitting on our hands waiting for a red light wal mart special. Meanwhile. The NFC just got even stronger. Good thing we re signed LVE though

 

[HanD]

I don't disagree with you.

Everyone makes it sounds like "the rich getting richer" with the rams but they are probably about the same or worse.

The offseason isn't done yet. I will evaluate it closer to TC for the cowboys. Anyone who thinks FA is the way...just take a look at the signing s from last year. Busts all over the place.

This board overreacts much like the media.

The rams way doesn't work long-term so unless you are one player away, then I wouldn't mortgage the future for a ring.

Having said that I wouldn't have signed bw to this long of a deal but Schultz or bw for 1 year and 11m is easy for me cause bw is still a greatly impactful player.

 

[Captain-Crash]

it would be a shame if the rams stomp mud holes in every team in the NFC for being scared. who cares if it's short-term.

 

[phildadon86]

Dallas gave Fowler 12m$ AAV. Was he really that much better a signing than Wagner would have been?

They didn’t

 

[Ken]

And yet every offseason you talk about how smart the Cowboys are being and every season they fall on their face. It can't just be bad luck year after year. There's a reason they have 3 playoff wins in 25 years. It's not bad luck. Or anything like that. It's that the Jones simply never have a cohesive plan that they stick to in order to build a competent roster and coaching staff.

So great, they didn't sign Murray. That was actually smart. But what happened? A year later they panicked and used the 4th pick on a TB. That was dumb. Then they compounded that problem a few years after that by making said TB the highest paid running back in NFL history.

They simply don't know how to build a competent roster and it shows in the results. They are stubborn and think what they are doing is smart despite the results consistently being middling. But people keep defending them each offseason so I guess that just helps them believe they are smarter than most other teams.

Usually, I like the moves they make. I think they have overcorrected with the FA thing, I do think they need to splurge here and there to get a difference-maker that makes sense. I wanted Wagner but not at this contract...same with Miller.

I was not on board with the Zeke pick and openly advocated for Ramsey, if he was there (which he was) at 4 and then come back around and trade-up slightly for Henry. That would have made a really great draft pretty dang amazing.

It also would have saved us from making dumb personnel decisions like extending Zeke.

I disagree with the competent roster building. Year in and year out they have very good rosters that generally rank among the league's best. Usually, only a QB injury derails them. But that derails most teams.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Les is more, plain and simple

 

[phildadon86]

Usually, I like the moves they make. I think they have overcorrected with the FA thing, I do think they need to splurge here and there to get a difference-maker that makes sense. I wanted Wagner but not at this contract...same with Miller.

I was not on board with the Zeke pick and openly advocated for Ramsey, if he was there (which he was) at 4 and then come back around and trade-up slightly for Henry. That would have made a really great draft pretty dang amazing.

It also would have saved us from making dumb personnel decisions like extending Zeke.

I disagree with the competent roster building. Year in and year out they have very good rosters that generally rank among the league's best. Usually, only a QB injury derails them. But that derails most teams.

Lol. Where were the injuries that derailed them in the playoffs last season? They were pretty healthy.

 

[Ken]

Lol. Where were the injuries that derailed them in the playoffs last season? They were pretty healthy.

Coaching deficiency IMO.

We have a bad HC and an overmatched OC. We have a RB getting carries who shouldn't be.

Those are the main issues with this team. The other is stopping teams who commit to the run game.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Usually, I like the moves they make. I think they have overcorrected with the FA thing, I do think they need to splurge here and there to get a difference-maker that makes sense. I wanted Wagner but not at this contract...same with Miller.

I was not on board with the Zeke pick and openly advocated for Ramsey, if he was there (which he was) at 4 and then come back around and trade-up slightly for Henry. That would have made a really great draft pretty dang amazing.

It also would have saved us from making dumb personnel decisions like extending Zeke.

I disagree with the competent roster building. Year in and year out they have very good rosters that generally rank among the league's best. Usually, only a QB injury derails them. But that derails most teams.

Agreed.

No way would I pay a "On the wrong side of 30" LB who's good but is no longer elite that kind of coin.

 

[phildadon86]

Coaching deficiency IMO.

We have a bad HC and an overmatched OC. We have a RB getting carries who shouldn't be.

Those are the main issues with this team. The other is stopping teams who commit to the run game.

What’s amazing is you think that McCarthy decided Zeke was to get the carry’s. Lol you really don’t see that the FO is responsible for 27 years of futility. Who’s fault was it then? Lol. Everyone but Jerry?

Also stopping the run? You think you’d rather have LVE there or Kearse. Or Wagner?

 

[EMMITTnROY]

We had the same record as the Super Bowl champs last year with a mostly young team.

That’s when you get aggressive and go all-in.

Instead, we lost our #1 WR, #3 OL and #2 DE.

Our biggest signing was the Steelers’ #4 WR.

Unbelievable.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

What’s amazing is you think that McCarthy decided Zeke was to get the carry’s. Lol you really don’t see that the FO is responsible for 27 years of futility. Who’s fault was it then? Lol. Everyone but Jerry?

Also stopping the run? You think you’d rather have LVE there or Kearse. Or Wagner?

Wagner was the 15th ranked LB last season per PFF while LVE was the 35th.

LVE's contract is for $2 mil.

Wagner's will probably be around $10 mil.

Is the difference worth $8 mil?

I don't think so.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We had the same record as the Super Bowl champs last year with a mostly young team.

That’s when you get aggressive and go all-in.

Instead, we lost our #1 WR, #3 OL and #2 DE.

Our biggest signing was the Steelers’ #4 WR.

Unbelievable.

I disagree on the "all-in" thing.

But to each his own.

The Bengals came within a whisker of winning.

Wish they had, then all this "all-in" nonsense wouldn't exist.