Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

[GimmeTheBall!]

I am not obsessed with Brees, seemingly you want me to be. I asked a very simple question which you are trying to get of answering.

and as I have said, I don't consider Dak elite. I don't have love for him. I asked a simple question. you are spinning very hard. its not working. you are avoiding. I have responded and answered everything, you avoid. usual tactic

You seem to be obsessive compulsive about demanding and getting an answer.
In this world you get answers you deserve, not demand!
I bet you were a spoiled little scalawag as a child.
Now you are on the cusp of junior high! My, my. A big boy you are.
I am sending you a Drew Brees diary so you can continue your Drew Brees obsession.

 

[Brax]

Nobody ever said Dak was great. You lil guys are resulting to lying now???

Was not quoting you, we both know Dak isn’t great, it’s Dak that does the talking, what I posted.below Sorry you misread it.
“about time he started earning the $ instead of talking how great he is.”

 

[starfan1]

Don't know who you are but you cannot be serious. This must be Kevin Durant.

No he’s a huge Tony Chokemo fan that’s still salty as is his mentor Pappy .

that said even though Dak is not the total blame for our post season failures he hasn’t been a reason we’ve overcome shortcomings either outside of 2018 against Seattle

it’s time he gets it done but the whole Dallas has been so talented is overblown . Their window was 14-18 with the line but their defense was lacking then. Now it’s the opposite

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You seem to be obsessive compulsive about demanding and getting an answer.
In this world you get answers you deserve, not demand!
I bet you were a spoiled little scalawag as a child.
Now you are on the cusp of junior high! My, my. A big boy you are.
I am sending you a Drew Brees diary so you can continue your Drew Brees obsession.

I was so rich and spoiled I had one servant for each utensil. Anything I demanded I got. I learned the word no when I was 5. I learned to put my own pants on so I guess that makes me a big boy. Jr high is still a few years away but I appreciate the compliment

You avoid like it's the plague. Your avoidance speaks volumes.

By the way, insults are useless weapon of the weak minded. You exposed yourself way too much over the past few posts...

Good luck to you.

 

[tyke1doe]

That's insane. Whoever is paying that has messed up priorities.

It is. But organizations will do so if they're trying to fund raise and need a big-time celebrity to help them in their effort.

 

[Haimerej]

It is. But organizations will do so if they're trying to fund raise and need a big-time celebrity to help them in their effort.

She should be ashamed to take that kind of money for a fundraiser.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I was so rich and spoiled I had one servant for each utensil. Anything I demanded I got. I learned the word no when I was 5. I learned to put my own pants on so I guess that makes me a big boy. Jr high is still a few years away but I appreciate the compliment

You avoid like it's the plague. Your avoidance speaks volumes.

By the way, insults are useless weapon of the weak minded. You exposed yourself way too much over the past few posts...

Good luck to you.

Why you royal pain in the gut sniveling Jimmy relica covered in Jerry's $30 pizzas and his mistresses' $10 cologne that you buy by the gallon to entice failed CEOs and seamstresses.
What was your question? Whether you can dress frilly or manish?

 

[GINeric]

I am inferring you go to great lengths to prop up Dak, Mr. ONE Playoff Win and Nothing Else.

Give Dak all the lame excuses, dime store inquisitor. Last week and this it was a bad O line. Today, a lack of coaching greatness. Tomorrow, no running game, next week his old injuries and on and on.
A good or great QB carries his team. Dak has no such ability.

Hey check this out. When people use all of those excuses for Matt Stafford not winning a playoff game for 10 years and having a 8 - 67 record against winning teams....

And when people gave Mahomes excuses in not playing great in his Superbowl loss because of injuries to the entire starting offensive line....

According to YOUR logic, those aren't legit excuses correct???

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Hey check this out. When people use all of those excuses for Matt Stafford not winning a playoff game for 10 years and having a 8 - 67 record against winning teams....

And when people gave Mahomes excuses in not playing great in his Superbowl loss because of injuries to the entire starting offensive line....

According to YOUR logic, those aren't legit excuses correct???

Keep on comparing Dakota to great QB.
Unfortunately, greatness does not spread to Dak, it just makes him appear more deficient.

 

[GINeric]

Keep on comparing Dakota to great QB.
Unfortunately, greatness does not spread to Dak, it just makes him appear more deficient.

See you guys are GREAT at deflecting the questions. Lets try this again, because ive never compared Dak to Mahomes because Mahomes is great, Dak isn’t but he's very good.

Now you said people are always coming up with excuses. You said injuries to our O-line, coaching, players we loss to free agency, etc aren't good enough excuses... you said a great quarterback should be able to elevate his team, correct??? No problem, now lets see if you can answer the question without deflecting this time.....

People here, probably including you said that Matt Stafford was better than Dak correct??? Okay... so why did it take Matt Stafford ten years to win his first playoff game?? Why is Matt Stafford 8 - 67 against winning teams?? He's a 1st round quarterback and according to your logic, he has no excuses because great quarterbacks are supposed to elevate the players around them... correct???

Now Mahomes is great but he didn't play well in the Superbowl they loss. Their whole starting offensive line didn't play in that game I believe.... but again, ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, there's no excuse why the Chiefs loss that game and no excuse for him not playing well correct????

Let me remind you that YOU said injuries to the O-line and personnel changes and selections AREN'T valid excuses for quarterbacks, because they supposed to elevate the players around them.....

So you're saying Matt Stafford in Detroit and Mahomes in the Superbowl don't have any excuses for their shortcomings.... im mainly talking about Stafford. But according to your logic for Dak/quarterbacks, they had no excuses either, correct???

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

See you guys are GREAT at deflecting the questions. Lets try this again, because ive never compared Dak to Mahomes because Mahomes is great, Dak isn’t but he's very good.

Now you said people are always coming up with excuses. You said injuries to our O-line, coaching, players we loss to free agency, etc aren't good enough excuses... you said a great quarterback should be able to elevate his team, correct??? No problem, now lets see if you can answer the question without deflecting this time.....

People here, probably including you said that Matt Stafford was better than Dak correct??? Okay... so why did it take Matt Stafford ten years to win his first playoff game?? Why is Matt Stafford 8 - 67 against winning teams?? He's a 1st round quarterback and according to your logic, he has no excuses because great quarterbacks are supposed to elevate the players around them... correct???

Now Mahomes is great but he didn't play well in the Superbowl they loss. Their whole starting offensive line didn't play in that game I believe.... but again, ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, there's no excuse why the Chiefs loss that game and no excuse for him not playing well correct????

Let me remind you that YOU said injuries to the O-line and personnel changes and selections AREN'T valid excuses for quarterbacks, because they supposed to elevate the players around them.....

So you're saying Matt Stafford in Detroit and Mahomes in the Superbowl don't have any excuses for their shortcomings.... im mainly talking about Stafford. But according to your logic for Dak/quarterbacks, they had no excuses either, correct???

Did you go to misdirection school.
Your premise is gibberish, your logic is shot and you deal in lies.

You need a time out to work our your man love for Dak.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Dak has played, 5 full seasons of NFL football, won ONE playoff game, and haven't played in any CCGs or Superbowls. But watch this tho....

Drew Brees and Peyton Manning were outstanding quarterbacks, correct??? Well explain to me why they've won the same amount of playoff games (ONE) and played in the same amount of CCG and Superbowls as Dak in THEIR first 5 years??? Stafford had zero playoff wins in his first 5 years.

Did you say the same thing about THOSE quarterbacks who had the same results as Dak at the same time frame of their careers as Dak is currently???

DON'T PUT A SPIN ON IT!!!

Oh yeah..... Trent Dilpher and Nick Foles have won more CCG and Superbowls than Warren Moon, Dan Marino and a few other HOF quarterbacks. Dilpher and Foles have the same amount of Superbowl wins as Aaron Rodgers.....

So what should i make of this true fact or take away from it.... what does that mean??

No because everyone of these talent laden NFL coaches players and evaluations you love to talk about knew Payton Manning was the most sure shot NFL QB prospect to ever enter an NFL draft. A blue chip. Platinum franchise guy. And he proved they were correct. I still do not understand why this is one of your signature goto repeat posts. Stop mentioning Dak in the same sentence as Manning. It's a weird twist on stats but the true QB talent is/was overwhelmingly lopsided

 

[GINeric]

No because everyone of these talent laden NFL coaches players and evaluations you love to talk about knew Payton Manning was the most sure shot NFL QB prospect to ever enter an NFL draft. A blue chip. Platinum franchise guy. And he proved they were correct. I still do not understand why this is one of your signature goto repeat posts. Stop mentioning Dak in the same sentence as Manning. It's a weird twist on stats but the true QB talent is/was overwhelmingly lopsided

Their first 5 seasons yielded the same results. Don't be made at me for speaking about what actually happened, so that's why they were mentioned in the same breath.... the had the same results at that same time in their careers.

I promise you I won't mention Dak and Manning in the same breath if you and others can stop comparing Dak' 5 full seasons of production up against other quarterback's full 13 to 17 seasons of production.

Its the dumbest thing in the world to compare someone's short career up against someone with a longer career. The correct thing to do is compare where the older quarterback was doing at the time frame of his career where the younger quarterback is currently at.

So with that said.... Dak and Manning had identical production after five full seasons. One playoff win, and I believe Dak had slightly better numbers at that time frame of five full seasons. Thats why i mentioned him in the same breath, and rightfully so.

 

[GINeric]

Did you go to misdirection school.
Your premise is gibberish, your logic is shot and you deal in lies.

You need a time out to work our your man love for Dak.

If i had man love for Dak, i would say he's elite or great. He's not, but he's a very good quarterback. Oh, yeah, what did i lie about?? Until then....

Back to the question..... According to your logic, Dak can't use the excuse of a depleted offensive line and lack of proper personnel moves correct???

So according to your logic, Matt Stafford had no excuse for going 10 years without a playoff win and being 8 - 67 against winning teams, because a quarterback suppose to elevate the people around him, no excuses, correct???

According to your logic, despite Mahomes not playing up to his capability due to ALL of his starting offensive linemen missing the Superbowl due to injury, its no excuse because Mahomes is capable of elevating the players around him, including backup offensive linemen, correct???

You're saying Stafford and Mahomes didn't have any excuses in those situations, correct??

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If i had man love for Dak, i would say he's elite or great. He's not, but he's a very good quarterback. Oh, yeah, what did i lie about?? Until then....

Back to the question..... According to your logic, Dak can't use the excuse of a depleted offensive line and lack of proper personnel moves correct???

So according to your logic, Matt Stafford had no excuse for going 10 years without a playoff win and being 8 - 67 against winning teams, because a quarterback suppose to elevate the people around him, no excuses, correct???

According to your logic, despite Mahomes not playing up to his capability due to ALL of his starting offensive linemen missing the Superbowl due to injury, its no excuse because Mahomes is capable of elevating the players around him, including backup offensive linemen, correct???

You're saying Stafford and Mahomes didn't have any excuses in those situations, correct??

You sure put a lot of effort to impress me.
Tiddy boy just chillax and stay in your lane.
Your comparisons of Dak to Mahomes and Stafford are disturbing.
And embarrassing.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Dak is top 15, no doubt.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If i had man love for Dak, i would say he's elite or great. He's not, but he's a very good quarterback. Oh, yeah, what did i lie about?? Until then....

Back to the question..... According to your logic, Dak can't use the excuse of a depleted offensive line and lack of proper personnel moves correct???

So according to your logic, Matt Stafford had no excuse for going 10 years without a playoff win and being 8 - 67 against winning teams, because a quarterback suppose to elevate the people around him, no excuses, correct???

According to your logic, despite Mahomes not playing up to his capability due to ALL of his starting offensive linemen missing the Superbowl due to injury, its no excuse because Mahomes is capable of elevating the players around him, including backup offensive linemen, correct???

You're saying Stafford and Mahomes didn't have any excuses in those situations, correct??

You're saying Dak is superior to Stafford and Mahomes, correct?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If i had man love for Dak, i would say he's elite or great. He's not, but he's a very good quarterback. Oh, yeah, what did i lie about?? Until then....

Back to the question..... According to your logic, Dak can't use the excuse of a depleted offensive line and lack of proper personnel moves correct???

So according to your logic, Matt Stafford had no excuse for going 10 years without a playoff win and being 8 - 67 against winning teams, because a quarterback suppose to elevate the people around him, no excuses, correct???

According to your logic, despite Mahomes not playing up to his capability due to ALL of his starting offensive linemen missing the Superbowl due to injury, its no excuse because Mahomes is capable of elevating the players around him, including backup offensive linemen, correct???

You're saying Stafford and Mahomes didn't have any excuses in those situations, correct??

According to you it's not Dak's fault he can't --- and never will, chap --- elevate the players around him?
Correct???

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If i had man love for Dak, i would say he's elite or great. He's not, but he's a very good quarterback. Oh, yeah, what did i lie about?? Until then....

Back to the question..... According to your logic, Dak can't use the excuse of a depleted offensive line and lack of proper personnel moves correct???

So according to your logic, Matt Stafford had no excuse for going 10 years without a playoff win and being 8 - 67 against winning teams, because a quarterback suppose to elevate the people around him, no excuses, correct???

According to your logic, despite Mahomes not playing up to his capability due to ALL of his starting offensive linemen missing the Superbowl due to injury, its no excuse because Mahomes is capable of elevating the players around him, including backup offensive linemen, correct???

You're saying Stafford and Mahomes didn't have any excuses in those situations, correct??

According to your logic, Dak can't succeed because everyone around him sucks, correct???

 

[GINeric]

You're saying Dak is superior to Stafford and Mahomes, correct?

Dak is definitely not on the level of Mahomes.

But Dak is is much better than Stafford was at this same 5, 6 year point in their career. When Dak gets to his 13th season like Stafford currently is.... I'll compare Dak's 13th season to Stafford's 13th season.