Ware and Miles June 1st cuts?

[supercowboy8]

Can two players be June 1st cap cuts, if so then Ware and Miles should be it.
If Ware doesn't want to take a pay cut then let him walk. he doesn't want to truly help this team like he said. A restructure is not a pay cut.

Ware at a June 1st cap cut will free up 11.7 million
Miles as a June 1st cap cut will free up 3.9 million

thats a total of 15.6 million

 

[joseephuss]

How is this news? Sounds more like speculation. And I don't believe there is a limit on how many players you can cut on June 1st or any other day.

 

[Nightman]

Can two players be June 1st cap cuts, if so then Ware and Miles should be it.
If Ware doesn't want to take a pay cut then let him walk. he doesn't want to truly help this team like he said. A restructure is not a pay cut.

Ware at a June 1st cap cut will free up 11.7 million
Miles as a June 1st cap cut will free up 3.9 million

thats a total of 15.6 million

But they can't use it until June 2nd. Austin should be a June 1st, but not Ware.

You can designate 2 players June 1st cuts prior to that date. They are free to sign with anyone, but the teams gets limited benefits.

 

[supercowboy8]

But they can't use it until June 2nd. Austin should be a June 1st, but not Ware.

No you can cut the player when ever and dictate them a June 1st cap cut. you might not get the cap savings until June 2nd but you don't have to be under the cap until training camp.

 

[supercowboy8]

How is this news? Sounds more like speculation. And I don't believe there is a limit on how many players you can cut on June 1st or any other day.

I think there is, used to be one before the new CBA and now I believe its 2 players but can't find the info.

 

[Nightman]

No you can cut the player when ever and dictate them a June 1st cap cut. you might not get the cap savings until June 2nd but you don't have to be under the cap until training camp.

You have to be under by the start of the league year in early March.

 

[joseephuss]

I think there is, used to be one before the new CBA and now I believe its 2 players but can't find the info.

You are correct, it is a limit of 2 players unless it has changed since this article.

http://overthecap.com/explaining-the-june-1st-designation/

 

[supercowboy8]

I don't want to see Ware go because I think he can still be a great player on a good DL and healthy but we need more player on this defense and if he doesn't want to take the pay cut then let him walk.

 

[Nation]

I think both take pay cuts

 

[xwalker]

Can two players be June 1st cap cuts, if so then Ware and Miles should be it.
If Ware doesn't want to take a pay cut then let him walk. he doesn't want to truly help this team like he said. A restructure is not a pay cut.

Ware at a June 1st cap cut will free up 11.7 million
Miles as a June 1st cap cut will free up 3.9 million

thats a total of 15.6 million

This is not "News:".

They don't need to wait until June 1st on Ware. It will free up 7.5M if he is cut before June 1st. It's 12.25M after June 1st.

Austin saves 5.5M as a June 1st cut.

They can make as many June 1st cuts as they want. The limit of 2 is for "designated" June 1st cuts. That is were they cut the player before June 1st but once June 1st rolls around, they count the same as an actual June 1st cut. There is no significant advantage to the team to designate a player as a June 1st cut, but it allows the player to move on to another team. It's possible that the team can save paying out workout bonuses that are in some players contracts.

 

[Corso]

Anyone really think Jerry has the cojones to cut Ware?

I think he'll have no problem cutting Austin, but Ware?

A potential Ring of Honor player picked by "him himself"?

I have serious doubts.

 

[supercowboy8]

This is not "News:".

They don't need to wait until June 1st on Ware. It will free up 7.5M if he is cut before June 1st. It's 12.25M after June 1st.

Austin saves 5.5M as a June 1st cut.

They can make as many June 1st cuts as they want. The limit of 2 is for "designated" June 1st cuts. That is were they cut the player before June 1st but once June 1st rolls around, they count the same as an actual June 1st cut. There is no significant advantage to the team to designate a player as a June 1st cut, but it allows the player to move on to another team. It's possible that the team can save paying out workout bonuses that are in some players contracts.

how is it 12.25 and 5.5/ I though the june 1t cut took the cap hit half this year and half next year.

 

[xwalker]

how is it 12.25 and 5.5/ I though the june 1t cut took the cap hit half this year and half next year.

The prorated amount for 2014 will stay on the 2014 cap. The remaining years will add together and hit the 2015 cap.

 

[supercowboy8]

The prorated amount for 2014 will stay on the 2014 cap. The remaining years will add together and hit the 2015 cap.

gotcha. I thought they took the total cap cut and just 50% this year and 50 next.

So the real number is 17.75 million which wil almost put us at the cap limit with out any restructuring. makes me want to do it even more.

 

[Nightman]

gotcha. I thought they took the total cap cut and just 50% this year and 50 next.

So the real number is 17.75 million which wil almost put us at the cap limit with out any restructuring. makes me want to do it even more.

The savings don't count until June 2nd. The league year starts in early March and Dallas HAS to be under the cap at that point for their top 51 contracts. Then FA starts and if the team wants to sign anyone the have to be even farther under the cap. The Cowboys have committed to restructures to manage the cap and have to stay committed to it as long as Romo is here and they want to compete.

 

[LatinMind]

Can two players be June 1st cap cuts, if so then Ware and Miles should be it.
If Ware doesn't want to take a pay cut then let him walk. he doesn't want to truly help this team like he said. A restructure is not a pay cut.

Ware at a June 1st cap cut will free up 11.7 million
Miles as a June 1st cap cut will free up 3.9 million

thats a total of 15.6 million

That does nothing for the Cowboys for 2014. Without restructures or outright releasing them what does the team do for FA? Because you can free up all that money but if you cant use it until after june 1st what does it get you? And what people dont understand is teams have to be under the cap the first day of the league yr.

 

[supercowboy8]

The savings don't count until June 2nd. The league year starts in early March and Dallas HAS to be under the cap at that point for their top 51 contracts. Then FA starts and if the team wants to sign anyone the have to be even farther under the cap. The Cowboys have committed to restructures to manage the cap and have to stay committed to it as long as Romo is here and they want to compete.

I know and understand. Dallas can get under the cap before free agency by a few restructures and cuts then after that deadline we can designate the june 1st cap cuts and start signing free agents.We don't have to be back under the cap until training camp after that. So we can sign the free agents knowing June 2nd we will be back under the cap.

17.75 million could really help out in free agents.

 

[HappyOnions]

Ware isn't going anywhere. Sorry to everyone who wants him gone, but he stays in Dallas until he's read to hang em' up.

 

[supercowboy8]

That does nothing for the Cowboys for 2014. Without restructures or outright releasing them what does the team do for FA? Because you can free up all that money but if you cant use it until after june 1st what does it get you? And what people dont understand is teams have to be under the cap the first day of the league yr.

No again I understand that. we can get under the cap by a few restructures by the first of the league year. but once the league year start you can go back over the cap and don;t have to be back under the cap. you can designate the players and starting signing players before June 1st and go over the cap, then June 1st we will be back under the cap.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I think Ware can still be back by taking a pay cut. But he had to retract/clear up that statement. No player in the history of the NFL has volunteered to take a pay cut, it makes no sense. This ain't the NBA. You make the team present that option... if they dare.